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Police shoot ill man after hammer attack

The Local · 2 Aug 2012, 08:31

Published: 02 Aug 2012 08:31 GMT+02:00

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The pair arrived at the 51-year-old man's house in Lower Saxony to accompany a doctor and a local official when they went to see the man, who had become violent after stopping his medication.

When the police entered the isolated farmhouse the man shared with his mother, he charged at them with a hammer, allegedly hitting one officer on the head several times.

The other officer shot the victim three times, killing him. His mother was not home.

A post mortem will be conducted, while the Oldenburg state prosecutor is investigating whether the police officer who shot the man was acting in self-defence, a spokeswoman said that evening.

A reconstruction of the incident would, she said, help the prosecution decide.

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10:19 August 2, 2012 by zeddriver
It's terrible that it had to end this way.

But. Mentally ill or not. When you lunge at two armed police with a hammer and are able to even hit one of them. You open yourself up to dire consequences. This person sealed their own fate be taking such action. This shouldn't even go to the prosecutor. There were even two non police witnesses that saw this person attack the police.
10:55 August 2, 2012 by klosck
I'm happy to see that cops in Germany have to answer for their actions (unlike in the States). Who knows if they were justified in shooting this man, but it shows that someone is watching the police and holding them accountable for what they do.... This is a good thing.
11:16 August 2, 2012 by Harry Grouse
If a cop does not have the skill to shoot a man in the leg he should not have a gun
12:28 August 2, 2012 by delvek
You attack someone with a hammer you should be shot, this is equal use of force, whether I hit you in the head with a hammer or shoot you, your chances of death are equal.

These two men should be given time off to forget the attack!
12:49 August 2, 2012 by mrcontinental
They had plenty of time to profile this person in advance and should have devised a plan to subdue this person if they exhibited violent tendencies before even heading over there. They knew that this person was off their medication so what else would you expect to be waiting for you other than a potentially violent person? Tasers could have ended this.
13:20 August 2, 2012 by auslanderus
First we don't know the full story of what took place at the house. Second, I agree if a officer of the law is attached then he has the right to defend himself be it a taser or gun. It has been shown that a person that has been hit with a taser can still hurt someone. A taser is not 100%. Sorry that the man had to die but the officer had to defend his partner from being killed or is that what people want on here?
14:32 August 2, 2012 by XFYRCHIEF
@klosck - you are wrong - police in the U. S. do have to answer for their actions. If you lived here you would know about Independent Police Review Boards, and how after a officer involved shooting the circumstances are reviewed to see if the officer used justifiable force.

@harry grouse - obviously, you have never shot a gun and know nothing about police training. First, you must watch a lot of TV to say they should have shot him in the leg. Have you ever tried to shoot at a moving target? And, police training - at least as my son in law who was a weapons instructor explains it - is that when you draw your weapon you are anticipating using deadly force and you aim for center of mass; trying to shoot someone in the leg is not part of the training.
15:50 August 2, 2012 by nashville
Thank goodness he did NOT shoot the man in the leg. The man was mentally ill and attacking with full force. Who knows if shooting him in the leg would have even incapacitated him? When someone has that much adrenaline in their system, a shot to the leg would feel like a mosquito bite. The officer aimed at what he could hit. A leg is something you aim at when the criminal is not moving nor in the process of killing someone else.
16:25 August 2, 2012 by wenddiver
Why bother, another violent mad man gone, that's a good think for the whole town.
20:22 August 2, 2012 by SchwabHallRocks
Thank God this man did not wander into a movie theatre with his hammer... he might have beat 12 persons and 1 fetus to death.

XFYRChief stops short... police do not hit their target 50% + of the time. Many / most police are shot / killed with their own weapon.

Most readers of the Local will surmise the hammer-man must have been circumcised and this led to his craziness.
01:33 August 3, 2012 by kellyvanrijn
At what point would it have been justified for the cops to shoot the lunatic with the hammer? After he bashed in the first cop's head? After he bashed in the second cop's head? The next time any of you anti police idiot bloggers are attacked by a madman wielding a hammer, please don't do the hypocritical thing and defend yourself. Me? I will meet deadly force with deadly force, thank you.
12:41 August 3, 2012 by wenddiver
@SchwabHallRocks- Probably could have if some Government Official had made the theater a hammr fre zone.
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