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Germans jailed in UK for owning terrorist material

The Local · 7 Feb 2012, 08:21

Published: 07 Feb 2012 08:21 GMT+01:00

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Police seized a hard drive and laptop from Christian Emde, 28, and Robert Baum, 24, both from Solingen in western Germany, when they arrived in the southern English port of Dover on July 15 last year.

Emde received a 16-month term, minus 193 days he has already spent in custody, and Baum received 12 months after they both pleaded guilty to having material which could be of use to someone preparing an act of terrorism.

Emde admitted four offences under the Terrorism Act for possessing online copies of the al-Qaida magazine "Inspire", which contained titles such as 'Destroying Buildings' and 'Make a Bomb in the Kitchen of Your Mom.'

Baum admitted one charge under the same act of having an article entitled '39 Ways Of Participating Or Serving In Jihad.'

Their lawyers had argued that Emde, who is unemployed, had been studying extremism but was not a terrorist and was not going to pass the documents to anyone, while Baum was studying Islam while searching for a purpose in life.

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Both men are now likely to be deported.


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11:33 February 7, 2012 by yourkeau
Germans jailed for the thought crime. Welcome to the Orwell's world!
12:46 February 7, 2012 by melbournite
"make a bomb in the kitchen of your mom" ? sounds like spoof to me. Will I get deported also If I put it in a google search? Maybe we should ban certain words from the computer or remove certain letters from the keyboard
13:06 February 7, 2012 by 1TruthTeller
In the light of Ofcom's deceitful revocation of PressTV's licence, nothing is now a surprise whan it comes to the Thought Police in the UK. For this they fought and died in wars? Democracy my astrolabe!
13:18 February 7, 2012 by iseedaftpeople
May one ask what business UK authorities had in the first place to seize a foreign visitor's hard drive and laptop?

Were they on some kind of terrorism watchlist, or is this now standard procedure for anybody, even EU citizens, entering the UK?
13:22 February 7, 2012 by The-ex-pat
On the whole, you are only stopped at Dover if you are a person of interest or are seen with a car so loaded down with cheap French booze that the suspension is about to give up the ghost. Two guys drive off the ferry are stopped and have their laptops checked. More to this story than the press are reporting.........
14:25 February 7, 2012 by Johnne
I´m not surprised. Typical irrational acts of the UK Authorities.
15:23 February 7, 2012 by Anth2305
I'm sure that the German authorities will be in full possession of all the facts (for all we know they may well have tipped off the British and that's why the pair were arrested on arrival) they certainly don't appear to have raised any complaints over the matter, it will be interesting to see how they react and whether the two are made to serve out their full sentences after they are deported back to Germany.
16:07 February 7, 2012 by The-ex-pat
14:25 February 7, 2012 by Johnne

I´m not surprised. Typical irrational acts of the UK Authorities.

Just be thankful it was the UK authorities. Had these pair got off a plane in the USA and the computer was checked, then you can be very sure they would not have seen the light of day for a lot longer.
16:34 February 7, 2012 by raandy
Just be thankful or as luck would have it?

People caring subversive material, into countries that are under threat and or attack by Jihadist , are either naive or stupid or both.
16:57 February 7, 2012 by zeddriver
Really I was just studying Islam. I call BS.

Honest! I only had the Ku Klux Klan hand book and was studying the dynamics of how to start a modern medieval era crusade and a Spanish inquisition as guides to become a Christian.
20:50 February 7, 2012 by joysonabraham
Is it clever reporting or stupid reporting to publish the names of those extremist material. May be this will help to prevent people from reading anything with this name or similar stuff, out of fear. May be the authorities wanted exactly this. Sometimes these kind of moves by the authorities helps, but if those guys got them to serve their own curiosity then very unlucky of them.
22:24 February 7, 2012 by zeddriver
Your Rick Steve's travel tip of the day. When traveling within western society leave your al-Qaeda handbook at home. Also, It's suggested that you not bring your commemorative pope hat while traveling in the middle east.
22:48 February 7, 2012 by lewis69
@zeddriver very funny. Rick Steves has the best travel guids and movies they encouraged me to see many places iv travled to.

This is another example why islam is dangerous period.
23:24 February 7, 2012 by supernova
This is so disgusting & where's the crime? Isn't there something called freedom of free press and information flow? English are slowly being very annoying now! So a person is thought be civil if he reads material from BBC for information sake and the very same person would be a potential terrorist if he reads another article published a Al-Qaeda. Respect the right of reading, information and intellectuality you 24/7 fiber gees chewing pricks!
23:24 February 7, 2012 by SchwabHallRocks
Obviously law enforcement was waiting for their arrival in the UK given the millions of persons who fly into the UK every year.

It wasn't an ad hoc act of Orwellian thought police.

In harmony with western principles, they received a trial and the press reported the trial.
01:07 February 8, 2012 by zeddriver

I suppose it's about the same level as showing up in Afghanistan with a bible. And having material on your lap top that shows how to convert people to Christianity. But wait a minute. These guys in England had something that one wouldn't get in Afghanistan. A trial to prove their innocence.
14:59 February 8, 2012 by zornstein
Yes that is a real magazine and yes it did comtain that article. A couple of idiots who follow this insane ideology got caught, hopefully less and less people follow these ideas.
15:12 February 9, 2012 by Al uk
Some stupid comments on here regarding the UK authorities. Do you think it was by total chance that these idiots hard drive was taken as soon as they landed in the UK.

Where do think the tip off came from? And what normal person has such things on their hard drive. The guys even admitted guilt!
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