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Neighbours complain deaf couple is too loud

The Local · 30 Nov 2011, 11:27

Published: 30 Nov 2011 11:27 GMT+01:00

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Mike Dumröse, 34, und Natascha Neitzel, 25, have lived together in the city of Hagen for about six months now. Deaf from birth, they communicate through sign language.

They also enjoy music by turning songs up full blast in order to feel the vibrations in the walls and floor.

But all the noise has annoyed neighbours, according to the Westdeutsche Allgemeine Zeitung (WAZ).

“They’re too loud. The other renters have constantly complained,” their landlord Achim Hengesbach told the WAZ.

When the couple found out about the complaints, they were so upset that they decided to leave their apartment and set up a tent at a local park.

City officials who found them there felt bad about their situation and moved them to a hotel while the couple searched for, and eventually found, a new place to live, the WAZ reported.

Now there are a few nights to go at their old apartment. They’re spending it watching TV and sleeping on an old mattress in a bare room. But they’re not turning up the music in celebration.

And though a bit embarrassed, they don’t seem to bear any ill will toward others for all they’ve been through.

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“Love. Luck,” wrote Neitzel when asked by the WAZ what they hope to achieve in their new accommodation, without saying whether they’ll be playing music there.

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12:47 November 30, 2011 by dcgi
They would have understood that by turning up the music full blast it would be anti-social to others; being deaf doesn't give you the right to be an a-hole.
13:09 November 30, 2011 by LancashireLad
Sounds to me (granted we only have this article as information) as though they have understood just that. The other residents only complained, they did not demand that the couple leave. They decided that themselves, even though the other residents would probably have been satisfied with quieter or no more music.
13:55 November 30, 2011 by DOZ
@dcgi "being deaf doesn't give you the right to be an a-hole. "

That's the way it works in Canada among most of the Physically Disabled Community, especially in Ontario where the most Anti-Social people live. This is why Europe has to be careful of Canadian influences and values. They will turn Europe into a gutter snipe region.
16:35 November 30, 2011 by ron1amr
Depends on what type of music they were playing. They could always build sound proofing in the apartments. How long they play etc. If I felt someone was playing music too loud I would approach them before going to authorities. And then I will understand the situation. If someone complained about me for something and I receive a letter, I would think why don't they come and see me and discuss the issue before making an official complaint then we could come up with some sort of resolution. Communication seems to be what needs to be placed in order. When people see that they are deaf what would they do then? Learn sign writing? I'm guilty too. I can't sign read only a little. But have been working with deaf people they are the same as everyone.
17:07 November 30, 2011 by aero82
Um... not sure Canada has much influence any anyone.

I agree with ron1amr. Why not just speak/write to them before complaining to the Landlord?
20:12 November 30, 2011 by joysonabraham
@dcgi and @DOZ

Don't forget that if they are deaf from birth, they may not be knowing what is loudness and how it feels in another persons ear. How fast some people jump to conclutions
21:24 November 30, 2011 by Shiny Flu
Pretty simple if anyone in this situation just used some common sense.

Sure, they are unable to comprehend - through no fault of their own - what it's like to live on the other side of the wall of 120dB (C weighted). However I'm pretty sure if they really wanted, a strobe light in their bedroom would be the visual equivalent.

1) Compromise: Agree with neighbours when it's a suitable time to listen or in this case 'feel' music. Alternatively, go out to a concert or club and hang out in front of the subs.

2) Provide them with a dB meter, explain that certain numbers are 'ok' and others are 'not ok'

3) Don't hide from problems by moving out and transferring said problems to a new bunch of neighbours.
22:49 November 30, 2011 by Uitvaartverzekering vergelijken
That is so surprising, but i agree...it's better to communicate to the couple first before complaining....Uitvaartverzekering vergelijken
01:07 December 1, 2011 by rfwilson
@dcgi and @DOZ

"Don't forget that if they are deaf from birth, they may not be knowing what is loudness"

The article said they were deaf, not stupid!
07:12 December 1, 2011 by wood artist
Clearly some other communication processes might have worked since these folks seem willing to deal with the problems.


NO one disputes their intelligence, but smart or not they have no frame of reference. Imagine you were born blind. Exactly how would you know anything about the color blue? The comments about their lack of knowledge are absolutely correct.

12:50 December 1, 2011 by Gretl
As for complaining to the landlord - it is not their place to directly confront other tenants, and may not feel comfortable in direct confrontation. In addition, they may feel intimidated as to how to properly communicate with the deaf. I understand completely.
09:19 December 3, 2011 by AClassicRed
@rfwilson Obviously, you do not understand the concept and made a stupid comment yourself. When a deaf person doesn't have the concept of sound, they also do not know what loudness is. Music is a physical experience, not a listening experience.

Try to describe light to a blind person? It is not a seeing experience, although if it is light source which gives out heat, the blind person could describe it as a physical experience only and could not likely correlate that having a 100 watt bulb on 24 hours a day every day could disturb a partner or roommate from being able to sleep.

I agree with Wood Artist, some commenters needs to expand their perceptions a little farther, but then sometimes when one has all their faculties more or less intact and working, this obviously creates a barrier to cognitively understanding others without. This is how casual, unintentional discrimination happens every day,
02:03 December 7, 2011 by beverly
The apartments for deaf people need to be soundproofed....hospital burn

units are sound proof because the patients scream in pain...there are

hospitals that specialize in burn treatment...apartments need to have

units for deaf to enjoy music.brain waves need to hear sound.
12:01 June 4, 2012 by women business owners
women business owners

I am definitely amaze with this article, i can't imagine deaf people are quite noisy.
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