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Anti-capitalist demos continue overnight

The Local · 16 Oct 2011, 12:57

Published: 16 Oct 2011 12:57 GMT+02:00

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Colin Below, a spokesman for "Occupy Frankfurt", said about 30 tents had been pitched outside the ECB building and that the protest - originally given official permission until Wednesday - had now been extended "indefinitely."

The demonstrations will continue "for as long as necessary and possible," he said.

Meanwhile, police in Berlin, where an estimated 10,000 people took part in protests on Saturday, said they had successfully prevented demonstrators setting up camp in front of the Reichstag parliament building overnight.

There were a handful of arrests and some officers were injured in minor scuffles, a police spokeswoman said.

A fresh demonstration was planned later Sunday in front of the city's iconic Brandenburg Gate, authorities said.

Max Bank from anti-globalization movement Attac said the protest wave was only just beginning.

The demonstrations were "a clear sign that people want more democracy," Bank told German radio station MDR Info.

"The power of the banks must be broken. People no longer want to be dictated to by the financial markets and politicians must realise this," added Bank. "We have seen the beginning of the movement. That does not mean that we will not see more in the coming weeks."

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Attac said that an estimated 40,000 people hit the streets in Germany as part of a global day of protest that saw rallies in 951 cities in 80 countries and violent clashes at demonstrations in New York and Rome.


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15:11 October 16, 2011 by Louis Prince
Germany is a mixed economy, especialy when compared to the US. If they go into a slightly more controlled economy it will be like the 'National Socialist' system (economically) and if they go to the extreme it will be communism. I believe that a slightly more controlled economy is probably the best, but we know these trouble makers want communism.
15:25 October 16, 2011 by catjones
The Occupy movement in the US is not anti-capitalist.
16:15 October 16, 2011 by whiteriver
wait, is Max Bank in favor or against the Banks?
17:58 October 16, 2011 by zeddriver

You are correct. But. I do find it ironic that the basic message of the OWS has been altered by the outspoken fringe of the OWS protests. The tea party suffered a similar fate. Of which I'm not afiliated with. They didn't want anyone with tourettes or taking meds anyway.

I have seen the same signs at both movements gatherings. For instance. Stop the bail out of the banks and wall street. Stop spending my kids future.

So both groups have some agreement.
18:26 October 16, 2011 by derExDeutsche
There are many common grounds between the Tea Party and Occupy WallSt., however

The Difference is, The Tea Party wants to fight the American Revolution .

And, The OccupyWallSt Movement wants to fight the February Revolution .

2 very different different solutions.
18:59 October 16, 2011 by zeddriver

True enough. Although I don't think either will happen.

The tea party wants to let the government know that a revolution to kick the politicians out of office and start fresh under the existing constitution is possible. If Washington does not start following the rules set forth in the constitution. Something that was advocated by Thomas Jefferson. And the idea of an armed revolt against a government in tyranny was discussed at length in the federalist papers. Which was the idea behind the second amendment.

The OWS will not have the support of the US military. The OWS does not have millions of Americans standing in bread lines. The OWS members most likely don't own a gun, or even know how to use one.

Two very different roads though.
21:11 October 16, 2011 by Englishted
@Louis Prince

"People no longer want to be dictated to by the financial markets and politicians must realise this," added Bank.

Oh my what a rabid raving red he sounds ,typical trouble making commie,

but what he said is correct to all but die in wool greedy bankers.
01:04 October 17, 2011 by ron1amr
It has come to my attention, people have staged protests around the world against corporate greed. While the economy is tightening banks are still making billions (euro dollars ) profit each year from the people.
04:48 October 17, 2011 by jbaker
The protest's that you see making Main Stream Media are staged protests backed and funded by the Rich Elite. The Real Peaceful protest's will not be shown. This is the way society works until the majority of people Wake Up! Refuse to Live another's Dream! Be yourself and create a beautiful World!
11:05 October 17, 2011 by freechoice
Obama really need to start indicting the wall street criminals who were involved in the 2008 global financial collapse before any chances of getting him back the the Presidency in the next election.

There must be a massive cleanup done before the world regains confidence in the financial markets.
11:16 October 17, 2011 by DoubleDTown
These commies want more democracy. How many of the participants didn't bother to vote at their last opportunity? And how many couldn't vote because they can't be bothered with administrative procedures like registering to vote (where applicable)?
12:43 October 17, 2011 by freechoice
Commies want more democracy?

Isn't that a good thing?
12:46 October 17, 2011 by derExDeutsche
@ freechoice

man, reality is so twisted up in your little head. You do understand that it is Obama and his crony capitalists, who is BEHIND these Astroturf Protests.
13:19 October 17, 2011 by frankiep

Democracy is only useful to commies when they are out of power. Once they have used democracy to gain control of governments they quickly decide that democracy is not exactly their favorite thing. See every single communist country in the history of the world for proof.
13:24 October 17, 2011 by LecteurX
@ Frankiep - on the other hand, the US knows pretty well how to punish a nominally "sovereign" nation for voting the "wrong" party into power... Think Chile, 1973. Democracy is only useful to the US when the "right" party is in power.
13:30 October 17, 2011 by frankiep

Trying to figure out where I made any references whatsoever to the US in my previous comment. Do you really think that anyone who despises communism and views it as a poison upon humanity must also automatically view the US as being greatest, purest democracy in the world? It's not an either/or issue you know.
13:31 October 17, 2011 by KamiZ
Does anyone else notice that the spokesman for the movement is anti-bank and is himself named Bank? :P
14:24 October 17, 2011 by LecteurX
@ frankiep

You beat me and I gracefully admit I jumped to the wrong conclusion based on your comment. I also happen to despise the communist parties of the past and of the present because of all the evil and misery they spread around the world in the last 90 years, and because of their blatant lack of an apology for it. Even in Germany, Die Linke still cannot come to terms with the East German government's decision to build the Berlin Wall and murder anyone caught defecting to the west. Such historical revisionism is almost criminal. I think we both agree here.

Considering that such sharp criticism of communists as you voiced usually comes from US rightwingers and their sycophants (especially on this website), I lumped you with them, which in retrospect was a mistake.

I mean, we shouldn't even be discussing Communism on this thread in the first place - it all started because rightwingers immediately dismiss all these anti-bank protesters as "communists" to kill off any sensible discussion from the start. As Catjones (#2) said, OWS protesters are not anti-capitalists. Sure, communists are also taking part in the protest, riding the wave of popular discontent and win some unearned support, but seriously what is "communistic" about criticising the fact that we're ruled by unaccountable banks nowadays, and that none of them has been made to pay for all their cheating and abusive practices that led the world into this mess? Letting failed businesses go bankrupt instead of saving them with taxpayer's money IS the very essence of capitalism; and businesses that are "too big to fail" are simply too big to exist in the first place. They should be broken up in several parts by democratically elected governments, instead of dictating their terms to nations and blackmailing them for public money in return.
14:53 October 17, 2011 by SchwabHallRocks
10,000 people world wide did a protest and got world wide attention in the media. The other 6,100,000,000 did not and got no attention in the media.

That's because the 6,100,000,000 aren't naive enough to think this problem is the cause of either the government or the financiers.

The catalyst (not the cause) of the economic meltdown was the sub-prime mortgage issue in the USA.

The environment for financiers to traffic in sub-prime mortgages was certainly created, in no small part, by the US Govt's Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac lowering their standards for guaranteeing home mortgages.

Why would Govt FMs do that? More poor people in houses and not apartments means more votes for the Democrats.

But, more bank profits means more contributions to Republicans (generally).

What it all translates to is the Middle Class bearing the brunt while the Democrats, Republicans, and the Financiers take their money and walk away.
15:45 October 17, 2011 by wenddiver
Do they realise that Republican Candidate Ron Paul allready used those movie masks in his Libertarian movemrnt lasr election in the US?

By the way it is possible to be Anti-Centralized Bank and Anti-Globilazation, without embracing Anti-Capitalism. President Andrew Jackson (Democrat)led a fight against America's first Central Bank that was also too big to fail. He hated it, because it's picking of the economic winners and losers was just Anti-democratic. He actually went so far as to remove the US Government funds from the US Central Bank andd istributing them to lots of small banks all over the US. This was bad for Wall Street but ledto one of the biggest spurts of real growth of the US in it's entire history, by funding Banks in the developing South, Mid-West and West. It ffectively made money available to smaller entrepenuers. I think Andrew Jackson would have laughed in your face if you would have told him that a large company has a right to cause millions of workers in the Western World to be thrown into un-employment and poverty, because of some Millionaires right to send their jobs to Chinese Communist Slaves living in factory barracks. Globilization is just non-sence, it is a buzz word for destroying jobs that pay a living wage and shipping them to awful countries that abuse and murder their own citizens. One look at the Tinamen Square protester confronting the tank and you know there is nothing Free about trade with Communist China.

To this day the Democratic Pary's big Birthday bash is called the Jefferson/ Jackson day dinner, we would all do well to study these men's ideas instead of the sorry set of candidates the two parties are producing now days.

We have all lost our way, and the resulting anti-capital backlash will probably hurt everybody.
16:11 October 17, 2011 by DOZ
Interesting how a movement to promote a fair and accountable Capitalist System is given the Communist Brand. Okay then if that's the Game the Conservative Right wants to play. Hail Putin.
16:17 October 17, 2011 by SchwabHallRocks
I am a Chicago native and listening to WLSAM on internet at this moment.

In Chicago the protestors wear a green sign if they do not want to be arrested, yellow if they might want to be arrested, and red if they want to be arrested. This makes it easier for the police to arrest those who want to be arrested and not arrest those who do not want to be arrested.

This is a very, very thoughtful group of protesters in Chicago. Very polite.
16:30 October 17, 2011 by Joe Wutbürger
If they want democracy why aren't they camping outside the EEC palace in Brussels?
19:04 October 17, 2011 by Englishted
@Joe Wutbürger

Never mind camping outside it ,they and we should be storming it .
05:48 October 18, 2011 by solsscriptura
@ Joe Wutburger and Englishted.


YOUTUBE The American Dream You'll enjoy it and see who is behind this (non) Federal Banks, Central Banks

Capitalist or Communist, black or white, it does not matter to them. They want to own you.

hat tip and good morning
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