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Justice minister praises Chaos Computer Club

The Local · 16 Oct 2011, 12:12

Published: 16 Oct 2011 12:12 GMT+02:00

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The minister, a member of the junior coalition partner FDP, told news magazine Focus on Sunday that the CCC were "not anarchists, but experts," who had brought an important debate into the public sphere.

Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger also said the assessments of the IT technicians had rarely been so important to lawmakers.

The minister added that the legal grey area surrounding the use of spyware by police needed to removed, and it was time for a single legal framework for federal and state investigators to be established.

Interior Minister Hans-Peter Friedrich told the magazine that IT experts from state and federal authorities have been called to a meeting on Monday to discuss the consequences of the so-called Trojan affair.

The CCC hacked the Trojan spy programme last weekend after obtaining a copy from unnamed sources.

The Berlin-based group said the spyware appeared to be of shoddy quality and pointed out that it had many illegal capabilities.

Politicians, particularly from the FDP and the Pirate Party have since condemned the use of the software, which can reportedly control and take data from computers remotely.

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Your comments about this article

17:17 October 16, 2011 by zeddriver
Why is Sabine or the CCC at all worried. Based on all but one response to another local illegal data article. Most seem to be fine with the practice of government data collection by whatever means necessary. If the state catches even one criminal by spying on the whole population. It will have been worth it. Only criminals with something to hide would oppose the governments intrusion into their personal data. And we can always count on the government to not abuse the innocent with all that data collection.
22:15 October 16, 2011 by ChrisRea
zeddriver, if you like totalitarian regimes, I guess it is very uncomfortable to live in a country respecting the individual right to privacy like Germany.
22:41 October 16, 2011 by zeddriver

I was being Facetious.

The general tone of respondents to the locals article about the state using stolen data to bust tax cheats was one of support for the state using stolen data.

In fact I received an insult by one poster that I must have tourettes or should go back on meds. All for having the opinion that governments should not break the law to catch law breakers. And then stating an example of our (US) government openly breaking laws that a normal citizen would go to jail for breaking.

I guess if expecting my government to follow the rules it demands that I follow means I'm weird. Then guilty as charged.
12:07 October 17, 2011 by michael4096
Sabine is brave taking this position but it doesn't explain why the government didn't ask 'the experts' before using the software.
16:54 October 17, 2011 by zeddriver

Yes. Kudos to her.

The key is how the CCC was able to hack the code. "A copy of the program was given to them from an unnamed source"

The agencies that were using the spyware never intended to make sure it was within the limits of the law. Their main concern was spying on people. It was only a 'leak' by a concerned or disgruntled insider that caused this issue to ever see the light of day.
10:12 October 18, 2011 by nolibs
The more secret our governments are, the more the people will suffer from those who want power. Whether it is under the guise of protecting us from terrorism, pirating movies, or protecting the children, our governments (and their agencies) should be watched closely and audited often.
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