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Turkey demands support for EU membership

The Local · 26 Feb 2011, 14:17

Published: 26 Feb 2011 14:17 GMT+01:00

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“The expectation of the Turkish population is that Germany, as previously under earlier CDU governments, take a leading role within the EU regarding the entry negotiations with Turkey,” Erdogan told Saturday’s edition of the Rheinische Post.

Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union (CDU) has most recently proposed a "privileged partnership" between Turkey and the European Union, something Erdogan rejects, and suggested was only a construct for domestic consumption.

“I understand it as a formulation which is only considered for domestic use,” he said.

The entry negotiations were being slowed down due to purely political considerations, he added.

Erdogan is due to address thousands of people on Sunday in the Düsseldorf ISS Dome – the majority attending are expected to be Turks or people of Turkish heritage. Local police are preparing for protests.

He is then expected to open the computer trade fair CeBIT, at which Turkey is this year’s partner country, with Merkel in Hannover – after having met former Chancellor Gerhard Schröder.

Schröder said this weekend Turkey should no longer be offered the privileged partnership, which he told the Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung had no substance. Germany should behave as a lawyer acting in Turkey’s interests – out of its own interests, considering that Germany is Turkey’s biggest trade partner, he said.

Erdogan also criticised German integration policies, saying they took no notice of the wishes of the Turkish people concerned.

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“I think successful integration requires the German authorities to no longer deal only one-sidedly, but rather to aim for cooperation with Turkish migrants, Turkish civil organisations and the Turkish government,” he said.


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15:07 February 26, 2011 by Frenemy
Why don't we just let Erdogan annex Germany as Turkey's 82nd provincial territory?!
15:26 February 26, 2011 by marimay
uhh.. ok, frenemy. Chill out.
17:51 February 26, 2011 by michael4096
I think I'd prefer them in the tent pssing out
18:48 February 26, 2011 by smitherman
As I understand the situation Turkey has only completed 5 areas out of 35 to qualify for entry in the European Union. Seventeen are listed as requiring 'Further effort' while eight are listed as needing 'Considerable Effort'. These are PC terms for 'a long way to go' and 'not even close'. Of those areas needing a lot more advancement include 1) Judiciary & Fundamental Rights, 2) Justice, Freedom & Security. I can understand why Erdogan is whining since it appears Turkey won't qualify without a lot more of it.
18:58 February 26, 2011 by marimay
EU is a sinking ship so they are probably better off not joining.
19:05 February 26, 2011 by peter douglas
i think the EU expanded too fast in the last few years which has had some negative consquences in some areas,tell that to people on the polish border who have to clamp their cars every night because of security issues.it will be the abyss of Germany and Europe as we no it if Turkey were to join the EU as full members.Turkey belongs to the middle east where its influence could really be needed .for schroder the guy is a lobbyst ,pay him and he will say anything.let the European countries decide in referendums period.
23:40 February 26, 2011 by auslanderus
How can Erdogan demand anything, the question is, have they meet the rules that was set down to them, if not, then hell no.
00:24 February 27, 2011 by Surferjoe
Lets all emigrate to Turkey and see how they like it.
03:20 February 27, 2011 by allenaksu
Anyone who thinks that the present Turkish government is going to bother improving Judiciary and fundamental rights is either too naive or is kidding himself. Right now they are both going in the opposit direction while buying time by pretending to be in love with the EU.
07:35 February 27, 2011 by Louis Prince
The EU may be kind of a sinking ship and I think it is because the West European countries are getting more self protective and as a result they don't care about helping other countries above thier own anymore, so bad luck to the East Europeans. Just one last comment I would, in a funny way, enjoy Turkey trying to annex Germany, in a week Germany will have invented a new military era and would cure Turkish immigration forever. Why do you think Germans don't infest Turkey, don't leave stupid comments.
08:48 February 27, 2011 by storymann
Louis Prince,,practice what you preach.
09:35 February 27, 2011 by Garo Gabrielian
Turkey must comply with all 35 areas before it can qualify for entry to the European Union. There needs to be a level playing field, the thought of some counties being privileged friends is demonstrating arrogance in the face of those countries that are working for common goals.

This is not about countries, cultures or religion, we live in a global village with an educated population who want equality for all, freedom of speech and not be dictated to by any government type be it democratically elected or militarily appointed.
10:01 February 27, 2011 by Victor Scicluna
Turkey should not act as if they are the only foreigners in Germany, they are clearly the largest group but any additional priviliged rights should be outright dismissed, this simply opens way to discrimination, what about the Italian Coomunity, should we introduce schools in Italian, Greek, ex-yugoslav area and so on.

Just in case I want my rights too.

Foreigners should be treated with respect and this we are but any deviations towards any group of foreigners is simply discrimination towards other groups.
10:39 February 27, 2011 by Kennneth Ingle
Although nobody chooses the country in which they are born, with the result that it purely chance in which culture or religion one grows up in, German reluctance towards Turkish efforts to join the European Union is fully understandable.

In the town in which I live for example, (supposedly the safest in NRW), it is becoming increasingly dangerous to leave home alone, or after dark. Groups of young thugs, mainly of east-European or Turkish descent, are making not only the streets, but also travel on public transport unsafe.

The will to integration appears to be completely absent. Rather it would seem, these - often in the third generation - immigrants, expect the society in which they now live to alter according to their wishes.
15:03 February 27, 2011 by DavidtheNorseman
Kenneth, and why shouldn't they? They push and get what they want in true Middle Eastern style. They only seem to understand force so their interpretation of our reluctance in the West to use force is simply that:

A) We have become to weak to defend ourselves so our lands, possessions and women and children are now rightfully theirs, and

B) Push harder, it's working.....

@Garo - I think, friend, that you have unwittingly hit the nail on the head but from the wrong angle - we *do not* have the same goals and agendas. Tunisia and Egypt etc are in revolt to get more Islamic States. That isn't the agenda of the people in general in the EU or China or the US.

If the EU wishes to allow mass immigrations of Turks into it's area and accept Erdogan's view of minarets that's the business of the EuroLords, however, they may bitterly regret it. Remember it's all borderless worker mobility soon...ought to be fun....................
19:14 February 27, 2011 by Der Grenadier aus Aachen
I didn't actually see any language here that indicates they "demand" it. However, if I missed it, "demanding" is probably the approach least likely to succeed.
21:04 February 27, 2011 by mehta_p
It is good for EU if Turkey doesn't get EU-Membership and better for Germany.

Turks are living in Germany since many years. They have their second or third generation living, studying, doing business here. But still turks are not completely mixed up with germans, their culture and rather trying to impose their shariya law and their way of living here.

If Turks becomes member of EU, many western countries will have many more muslims, more spoiled and agressive people. Slowly german population keep decreasing and one day there will be more muslims than germans in Germany.

Already many turks families are living here and holding german pass, still hardly able to communicate properly in german and/or english.

Due to such behaviour, Germans have opened Integration courses which are very expensive (money, time, efforts) for germany.

If turks becomes memebr of EU, i don't think that they will mixed up or understand any other culture.
22:27 February 27, 2011 by Logic Guy
Well, it's truly unfortunate to see leaders doing such weird thing these days.

In the US, the world's example for Democracy, it had to witness an entire group of leaders walk off the job, and literally lead their state (Wisconsin) altogether.

And now you have the Qaddafi government shooting at their own citizens.

And what's with Erdogan, how can he possibly make such a demand?

Germany and Turkey are already major trading partners. With all of the problems the EU is having, why would he want to join any way?

Leaders and world leaders need to calm down and listen, and start using a more logic and less emotions in their approach.
01:37 February 28, 2011 by Onurcan Kurucu
Hello people, I just read the news on ntvmsnbc.com.tr about erdogans visit to Germany. ntvmsnbc is one of the most objective news site in turkey. What it says there is that Erdogan told: "the Turks in Germany should try to intedgrate more and learn german, educate themselves, should show some effort to be a part of Germany." and he added that but you should not be asimilated. So, when ı read the news from the german perspective i felt really upset because i have a feeling that these are all strategically thought out things to provoke innocent people.

Please do not get me wrong, if there are any Turkish people living in Germany is reading this, i believe that you should make some effort since you are the representing Turkey in Europe, the way you represent us is one the major reason why most of the EU citizens do not want Turkey to be a part of EU. So, maybe, there is something wrong in what you are doing, and that might be causing a bad image of Turkey.

I am a Turk from Turkey, whenever I meet German person they say "oohhh you are not like the Turks we know." in a positive manner. I get very sad and frustrated when they say this, i really care about Turk's reputation, and I want to change this. Maybe you can do something about this?

And to the Germans, we, as the Turks in Turkey, we do not want Turks in Germany to act as if they are living in 60s-70s vilage life of Turkey in Germany. However maybe there is something wrong in your integration policy that lead people to act in this way?

My point is; i am just asking both sides to be more approachable and reasonable and please try to see both perspectives of this issue...
08:17 February 28, 2011 by akinmalas
Has anyone visited EU members; Bulgaria or Romania. And have you actually seen Turkey once. Then please help me understand why Turkey is not a member or why these two countries are members.

I have an answer !! They are NOT MUSLIM !
09:30 February 28, 2011 by andy_jm
I don't see why Turkey should join the EU when most of the country isn't even in Europe
16:34 February 28, 2011 by oxymoron70
The European nations' loss of sovereignty to the EU should be a warning to Americans.

Phyllis Schlafly

And to Turkey as well. EU is the most hypocrite, racist, the most disrespectful of pacta sunt servanda and to the decisions made by european court of justice. Turkey is better off without EU but we will wait until you declare your hypocrisy by rejecting us officially. By doing that you will prove to the whole world that EU is not about freedom, democracy and trade but about being a Christian club that is based on the mentality of crusaders.
17:44 February 28, 2011 by sunsolar
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21:07 February 28, 2011 by Kats meow
Whatever happened to that GERMAN PRIDE, I wonder?

You people should wake up and reassert yourselves and don't let others walk all over you and say nothing, or have you all become a bunch of sheep???
22:37 February 28, 2011 by Surferjoe
Well thats hitting the nail on the head Kats meow.

The germans feel so guilty (and rightly so) for grotesque way they behaved in the 30s and 40s that they now passively accept the destruction of their culture from within by the hordes of third world immigrants imported by business interests for cheap labor. No one asked the germans outright whether they wanted a more modest economic success in return for an intact society and culture because their politicians were completely beholden to corporate state. Now, as Thilo Sarrazin has had the courage to point out, it is almost too late. Germany is destroying itself.
00:12 March 1, 2011 by Logic Guy
Well, the most ironic thing about America, Germany and other European countries, is that most of their citizens are conservative, but the leaders they elect are not, and therefore such leaders often do not implement policies that are in the best interest of the people.

The answer is actually very, very simple. Those of you who are Real Christians, and are committed to Real Conservatism, should seek positions of leadership. Millions and millions of people are desperately waiting to vote for you.

Human life really should be easy.
10:43 March 1, 2011 by storymann
Logic Guy,,you gotta be kidding ,the last thing we need are more religious fanatics

deciding our affairs with a bible in hand quoting scripture. thanks but no thanks.
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