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Biker reportedly stopped Berlin metro attack

The Local · 18 Feb 2011, 12:34

Published: 18 Feb 2011 12:34 GMT+01:00

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According to the Friday report in daily Bild sourced to “high-ranking security officials,” the biker intervened when the four teens appeared to be about to attack the second man who had attempted to flee. The suspected Bandidos member reportedly showed the youths a weapon he was carrying and they backed off.

A spokesman for the Berlin prosecutor's office, Martin Steltner, would not confirm the information about a weapon. But he did say investigators were trying to track down the man as a crucial witness in the case.

“The youths were apparently intimidated by his appearance and ran away,” he said.

The condition of the assault victim, a 30-year-old house painter, is still critical. A spokesman at the Berlin hospital where he is being treated said on Friday that he was in an artificial coma and that a prognosis about his recovery would have to wait until Monday.

The brutal attack, which took place in the U-Bahn station in Berlin’s Lichtenberg district late last Friday, was carried out by four male teenagers. The three 17 year-olds and one 14 year-old are in police custody and are likely to be charged with attempted murder and causing grievous bodily harm.

Investigators have lamented the inaction of some witnesses. They say that while several people saw the attack, only one person put in an emergency call. It is thought that one witness might have even stolen the victim's jacket as he lay unconscious on the platform.

The victims’ rights group Weißer Ring has called on the federal government to launch a campaign urging people to show more civil courage and not merely look away during such incidents.

“Prizes and commendations for courageous action evidently aren’t enough,” said the organisation’s spokesman Helmut K. Rüster. “Something has to change in people minds so that they don’t just look away when they see violence.”

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He warned that people should not become inured to violence in everyday life.


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13:05 February 18, 2011 by thedeliver
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13:21 February 18, 2011 by catjones
@thedeliver....and if all the immigrants disappeared from DL so would crime, right?
13:30 February 18, 2011 by ngwanem
@thedeliver: would your comment also include the german kids in münchen who beat a german businessman to death? or in this case you would ask the german government to de-germanize them, in order to preserve the status quo that "only foreigners and preferably refugees commit crimes in germany"?

i'm sorry but your disguised xenophobia still stinks through your comments and one can get a whiff of it. out of concern, i will propose you get some serious education (preferably in sociology and history). don't get mushy with all the fast hectic stressful life that keeps you to rely on the daily tabloids and most of all don't let politicians think for you.
14:23 February 18, 2011 by tallady
I saw a video of a 70 year old lady beating 4 youths that had broken a jewelry store window and were looting it ,they ran and others in the crowd began to help,this was in England.. I find it very disappointing that only one person made a call and the rest stood by and watched or pretended not to notice,while a man was being beaten nearly to death ,shame on those gutless people.
14:58 February 18, 2011 by wenddiver
To bad they didn't attack somebody with a concealed weapons permit, then we could have burried the young monsters.
15:12 February 18, 2011 by booker
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15:32 February 18, 2011 by Surferjoe
Stories like this really bring home the way society is starting to dissolve around the edges. Multiculturalism may not be entirely to blame but it is certainly a contributing factor, a self inflicted wound as it were. That one of the witnesses stole the victims jacket as he was lying on the ground only goes to show how far things have gotten out of hand. Clockwork Orange is may have been prophetic when it was made but its now quickly becoming illustrative of the way things are now.
15:33 February 18, 2011 by Johnne
@thedeliver or "deliverer" I can see that you enjoy the enjoy the attention you get:-)) carry on! enjoy! anyway, maybe you should know that those kids are Germans..hmmm? they are under 18 so it means they were either born here, or brought here by their parents. Or, are you trying to say that Germans are only blond white people with blue eyes? hmmm? say it! just come out straight..co´mon say it.
15:50 February 18, 2011 by booker
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16:16 February 18, 2011 by Al uk
@ngwanem as you say Germany (like the UK) has its own indigenous scum already without having to import it from the far corners of the third world.

No doubt the multi-culti lovies will find an excuse.
16:25 February 18, 2011 by Surferjoe
That those kids were probably born here or brought here has nothing to do with whether they have made an effort to accept and be a part of german culture and society Johnne. Thats what the debate about multiculturalism is all about. Merkel and Cameron have announced that multiculturalism has failed and couldn't be clearer about it.
16:38 February 18, 2011 by booker
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17:29 February 18, 2011 by Englishted
I saw a video of a 70 year old lady beating 4 youths that had broken a jewelry store window and were looting it ,they ran and others in the crowd began to help,this was in England..

14:23 February 18, 2011 by tallady

Well tallady did n't you think who was the person filming with the mobile phone,

when he or she could have helped the 70 year old woman ?.
17:30 February 18, 2011 by idiot
quote booker:

> These people are making comments everywhere do they have a job or just......?

Let me guess, your a farmer?

> Im quite certain that most of these are germans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i just remember 5 million jobless. What do you just spoke abt?

OMFG, what kind of loosers are around here.

Take the life and stop whining.
18:43 February 18, 2011 by 1FCK_1FCK
Ah, nice to see no one make a comment referring to the essential humanity in everyone involved in this incident. When a man is being beaten surely where he & his attackers are from should be meaningless? Of course not, because where a man is from, and nothing else, dictates exactly how they will act in every situation, eh?

I have to say I don't really blame the other people for not getting involved. If you see something like this your first reaction is probably that you don't want to suffer the same fate. Not all of us are courageous defenders of truth & justice. Some of us want to live. Doesn't excuse no one getting involved, but it is understandable. I've never been in a fight, and I'm pretty sure I'd suffer a similar fate as the victim if I came up against 4 attackers.
18:55 February 18, 2011 by fryintl
It would have been nice to see in the article the real story. A criminal, a biker (I remember the Cavemen, what a bunch of losers)stopped them when he just showed them a gun. So, if people could legally have one, they could have "Just Showed" them the gun and the problem might have stopped immediately and we would be (or not) reading an article about problematic youth that do not have enough to do so they were chased off from bothering soemone. You see, since we don't know how many times some crime has been stopped because a gun was just shown, we don't have the data to prove guns save lives.

I know, an Ami protecting the gun angle, again, but really. The gun was just shown and the bad kids went away. This does also show that the HA's and The Bandidos are still a bit Human, and they at times do what is right. There may be a redeeming factor in this
19:00 February 18, 2011 by booker
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19:21 February 18, 2011 by Johan Fink

You are wrong on that one, it wasn't a mobile phone that captured the footage, it was CCTV.
20:11 February 18, 2011 by OkieinBerlin
Well, well booker -- let me guess, you're a racist, aren't you? But that doesn't mean you can't learn a little spelling, a little grammar and little geography -- we wouldn't want you to be degrading yourself, would we?
20:53 February 18, 2011 by toemag
So a bad biker scares the head bangers off with an illegal firearm, hmm.

As to some one with a CCW, as per German law he can't use the firearm unless his attackers are also armed, (Verhältnismäßigkeit der Mittel) or reasonable force, and heavens forbid he dared to brandish.....
20:56 February 18, 2011 by Northern Monkey
For those of you whinging multiculturalism has failed (ironic on a German website promoting English)and that the thugs were "imports", how many of the brave citizens who stood by and did NOTHING were German...?

The phrase 'narrow-minded' springs to mind
21:58 February 18, 2011 by booker
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22:27 February 18, 2011 by wenddiver
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22:51 February 18, 2011 by mcdogg
Bandidos Rule !!
01:38 February 19, 2011 by Raydoggy
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04:33 February 19, 2011 by Surferjoe
Your first sentence is exactly right Raydoggy, couldn't have put it better myself. Multiculturalism is a huge con job by the ruling elite to keep our wages down. The hiring classes could care less about the problems multiculturalism is causing as they can afford to insulate themselves from them at the moment. Of course these circumstances can't continue forever and things will get worse for everyone as the richer get richer and the poor continue to be victimized to the point where they will refuse to cooperate further. Think it can't happen here? Think about Egypt and think again.
07:11 February 19, 2011 by Wrench
Motorcycle CLUB. Get it right!
08:38 February 19, 2011 by Englishted
19:21 February 18, 2011 by Johan Fink


You are wrong on that one, it wasn't a mobile phone that captured the footage, it was CCTV.

Thank for the correction,sorry tallady.
11:05 February 19, 2011 by muni
I am of south american english background and I am deeply ashamed and angry at these youth. Immigrant or born here they still have foreign backgrounds and it is very stupid to attack natives of your host country, apart from the fact its plain cowardly. I truly believe they should be deported if not born here, if born here their parents should be held responsible too. Germany is better off without them.
11:12 February 19, 2011 by David Shaw
We as people of all races need to step up and make sure this does not happen again. If 10-15 or the entire platform population would have said stop then the 4 youths would have stopped. I would be sick to see this in person and see people just walk by as a human is kick and punched by 4 youths. If you were on the platform you should be ashamed of yourself, all of you! I hope the victim recovers and that justice is served swiftly and fairly.
15:23 February 19, 2011 by Bruno53
The "philosophy" of permissiveness has caused these young monsters to act stupidly wild. Maybe we should go back to the old days when parents taught kids to obey by forced [remember the "good belt" from grandpa?]. People of the past generations probably knew "something" of human evil.

P.S.: Yes, I can hear somebody calling me "fascist" [I voted for Mr. Obama here in USA!!!!]. What do you know?
18:51 February 19, 2011 by ngwanem
it is sad the majority of comments on this forum have succeeded to drive the topic to multiculturalism rather than the failing standards of upbringing and respect in the society.

in comparison to other european countries, germany is one of the countries where seniority is disrespected or overlooked. most germans treat their elders as "Müll" (garbage) and this attitude abounds in the cities.

also, many people in germany ( i don't want to generalize) would prefer to keep quiet when someone is breaking a rule, than to use their citizen right to intervene. i have witnessed many times when youths spit in buses, play loud music, bang windows and the adults just stare but don't dare open their mouths to reprimand them. all along, the adults are cursing the youths in their minds and when the youth drops off, then they all heave a sigh if relief as well as gossip about the strange behavior.

the two quoted reasons are the main reasons while such public disorder occur. it is ridiculous that some are so quick to blame immigrant or immigrant culture but ironically in the southern hemisphere, respect for seniors and public intervention is more common because empathy, a very essential human feeling is seriously lacking in europe, while abundant in areas of less economic resources. people have become so individualistic in europe to the point of not caring about others and the statistics correlates this trend to increasing violent behaviors and poor conflict resolution. many jump on this forum and express outrage - which most of the time is directed at those they feel, do not belong to their "lofty" european society. well, the good/bad news, depending on how you view it is that all humans are immigrants, the difference being the duration of the immigration.

all europeans migrated over the centuries from the east- even the nazis were fascinated about their origins. it is just amusing to hear them now whine and talk of other nationalities of not respecting, integrating or assimilating into their culture, when slavery colonialism and wars had been their best export, driving others to seek "enlightenment " and refuge in europe. am i wrong?
21:54 February 19, 2011 by michael4096
it is sad that nobody has commented that the reason we read articles like this in Germany is that they are news. Unlike most other countries where their news' content would be equivalent to 'dog bites man'. But, then again, in Germany, even the dogs behave better than men in some countries
21:58 February 19, 2011 by kentchap

I am a bit surprised by the utter lack of creativity you are showing. You know what I'm talking about, mate. ;-)
22:09 February 19, 2011 by tikka
@ngwanem you raised some interesting points, but how can anyone deny that this incident does have racial implications like it or not, and if you dont see it, the majority of others will, given the facts of the perpetrators.

Secondly, having lived in s america for some years it is true that in the 'southern hemisphere' youths are expected to respect their elders more (tho this is changing); this general fact makes the actions of these youth are even more shocking.

And while all humans during the course of history were immigrants in the past, many countries now are established and built up due to the sustained efforts of their native populations. So naturally this makes it undesirable when immigrants seem to undermine the established order.

And finally, concerning 'slavery colonialism and war' this was a pratice common in many cultures even among amazonian tribes, and very commonplace even now in many african countries. Focus on this should not be on the role of European countries only, esp when natives of some of these (immigrant) countries treat their own people. If these people have left a chaotic country to seek 'enlightenment' then they should certainly not be behaving like low life cowards and attacking ppl in the country that has taken them in.
06:58 February 20, 2011 by Canuckgirl
Multiculturalism can work and Canada is a perfect example. Of course, I am Canadian but we are one world people and we need to learn to respect each other. That's what it boils down to. R-E-S-P-E-C-T

I find it unbelievable that there are protests and marches based on immigration in European cities. It was quite shocking and sickening to find this out.

Think of it this way, Germany is a wonderful country, who wouldn't want to live here?
08:11 February 21, 2011 by Birddog
Germans are total wimps when it comes to intervening in any event like this. They are not risk takers at all, & they're afraid to get involved, knowing it might upset their lives, cause paperwork & who knows if the criminals might turn out on their doorstep one night. If the Police came while the Bandidto was there, the whole event would have gone sideways because he had a weapon, making him the focal point of the event. One negative cancels all positives. Cudos to the Bandito & I can blame him for leaving.
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