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Germany prepares to receive Gitmo prisoners

DPA/The Local · 28 Mar 2010, 10:06

Published: 28 Mar 2010 10:06 GMT+02:00

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A German delegation visited Guantanamo last week to meet the prisoners who might come to Germany after their release, Der Spiegel magazine reported over the weekend.

The delegation included officials from the Interior Ministry, the federal criminal police and the immigration office. They are said to have wanted to meet the prisoners to make an assessment of their needs and to make a risk prognosis.

US special envoy Daniel Fried gave a list of nine names to the German Interior Ministry at the end of last year. Secret talks have been held during the months since then to discuss how the men might be accommodated in Germany, and under what conditions.

Der Spiegel reports that of the original nine prisoners, several have already been accepted by other countries and released, leaving what it calls a handful remaining who would come to Germany.

These include a Palestinian man from the West Bank who belongs to the conservative religious grouping Tabligh-i-Jamaat, who was arrested in Pakistan; a Jordanian who travelled to Afghanistan in the summer of 2001 and was arrested there, as well as a Syrian who was arrested shortly after being treated in a hospital in Kabul.

The plan to allow the prisoners to come to Germany has been criticised from within the governing coalition, in particular from Wolfgang Bosbach of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) and chairman of the parliamentary interior committee.

“I have fundamental security concerns about the admission of Guantanamo prisoners. Should we decide, despite these, to take former prisoners on humanitarian grounds, all security concerns must be checked and satisfied for each individual prisoner,” he told the Bild am Sonntag newspaper.

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“The US must convincingly explain to us why these people were not freed until now, why the US will not admit them and why they cannot go back to their home countries,” he added.

President Barack Obama had pledged to close the Guantanamo prison when elected, criticising its controversial legal basis and the treatment of those held there. There remain around 190 prisoners, nearly 100 of which are being prepared for release.

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13:40 March 28, 2010 by Prufrock2010
Not to worry. Germany has a tradition of running efficient prisons.
18:16 March 28, 2010 by peschvogel
These clowns will be left unguarded and they will plot something else. Just look at the "sleeper" cells inside Germany. They are everywhere. They would love to meet these folks for tea and conversation. DIA (German Intelligence Agency) is not smart enough to spy on these folks.
20:29 March 28, 2010 by wenddiver
We can only hope they are accidentally run over by cars crossing the street, as they will add nothing to Germany.
20:40 March 28, 2010 by dbert4
They should be sent to the US or since it's probably time to take advantage of that "special US/UK relationship and send them to London.
22:51 March 28, 2010 by CraigS
I would hope the German government would be smart enough to tell Obama to shove his terrorists up a dark place. Your country does not need this problem and these dirtballs can sit and rot in Gitmo. Your country does not owe this to anyone. Please folks, tell Obama to get stuffed!
23:07 March 28, 2010 by Prufrock2010

These people were imprisoned and tortured in Guantanamo illegally, deprived of due process and even habeas corpus. "Sitting and rotting" in Gitmo is exactly what happened to them, and it served only to undermine America's rule of law, its credibility in the world, its constitutional obligations to adhere to the Geneva Conventions, and to recruit more terrorists. Your objection is noted, and it is without any legal, moral or ethical foundation.

Whether Germany should accept them is another matter that has no relevance to their illegal detention and torture at the hands of the United States. Channeling your inner Dick Cheney does not adequately address this delicate problem. If you really hate America and its constitution, your comments ably illustrate that hatred.
23:30 March 28, 2010 by peschvogel
I am sure the many freedoms of the wonderful Police State and rising Nationalism of Germany will make them feel right at home....At least in Cuba, they had sun...Schlim....
23:32 March 28, 2010 by CraigS
Read the Geneva Convention as it is written, not has you want it to be used. They are being treated according to that international set of rules!

It sounds like you are willing to bring one into your home and pamper them. Be my guest.

I love this country and have lived in Germany while serving My Country. That service has included 3 tours in Iraq and one in Afghanistan.

Germany has lived through terrorist attacks in the past. They don't need to do this to their people.
23:46 March 28, 2010 by bigbiz
They need to stay in Gitmo.. perfect weather and great cigars
00:03 March 29, 2010 by Prufrock2010

I have read the Geneva Conventions and I practiced law in the United States for many years. Torture is prohibited by the Conventions, and the United States is required by its constitution to honor its treaties and to prosecute those who implement torture. Moreover, denial of due process cannot be condoned under any circumstances pursuant to the U.S. constitution, and habeas corpus cannot be abrogated absent a declared state of national emergency -- which has not occurred.

I respect your service to your country and I understand your frustration. That frustration, however, does not justify the shredding of the U.S. constitution or the abolition of the rule of law. If that is the case, the terrorists have already won and your sacrifice will have been in vain.

Guantanamo stands as a symbol of American weakness, revenge and lawlessness, and is a scourge to everything you ever fought for. It is also the best recruiting tool the jihadists have ever had. The practices implemented there are an abomination to the civilized world. Those detained there should never have been subjected to torture. They should have been charged and tried in accordance with established legal and constitutional procedures, or they should have been released and repatriated. As you probably know, even Bush released and repatriated many detainees against whom no credible case could be made.

One must assume that before a deal was struck with Germany to accept some of these detainees, a process was undertaken to determine their probable culpability and the potential risk associated with their release. To assert that everyone detained at Guantanamo is guilty of terrorism, in the absence of credible evidence and due process, is to espouse a kind of despotism that is anathema to the county, the constitution, the rule of law and the militarily that you so proudly served.
01:18 March 29, 2010 by peschvogel
I love all the Germans who thik they can successfully try a case against the US for trials against humanity. Wait until your precious land becomes battelground when hard right politicians whom have been elected try to force nationalism or non-immigration measures. I think the revenge for Germans trying to make an example of Americans goes back to Nuremburg however, the world has come along way from those trials. Seesm like the EU policy on immigration has already won because a "selected" breed of humans are dying out. Its part of the Darwin Natural selection theory who succedes and who dies. Perhaps its karma...
01:45 March 29, 2010 by Prufrock2010

Would you care to translate that into English?
04:55 March 29, 2010 by peschvogel
Well, you see Germany has a fertility rate of 1.3. The trend is irreversible. Muslims are replacing Germans. The EU policy is taking people from Africa and Middle East and sending them to Germany.

And Germans love rubbing their noses about Guantanomo because they want to bring charges against the US (which of course would never happen).

Enjoy your terrorists. Perhaps yours lives next door?
10:34 March 29, 2010 by jollyroger
well done germany, yet again you show yourself to be a slave of both america and islam. when will the germans actually start to defend their civilization?
10:56 March 29, 2010 by Johnne
Why should they bring gitmo prisoners to Germany?? why can´t they re-settle them in the US or the UK?? jollyroger has said it all. why is it that Germans always bow & worship the Americans in everything? you don´t even get laid anymore if you´re not an american:-)
14:33 March 29, 2010 by michael4096
I find it hypocritical how some people can worship wonderful ideals like truth, justice and innocent until proven guilty - until someone in uniform says "I don't like the look of him! He wears funny clothes and reads the same book every day"

Brownie points to germany for sticking with the ideals that others claim but don't live up to
16:36 March 29, 2010 by Duude
Most all of these detainees will be dead within 5 years after the government stops following them around long enough for them to detonate themselves in crowded quarters.
17:52 March 29, 2010 by peschvogel

The Germans are wimps. This is why Islam will ruin their culture and take their place in the Darwin chain. Germany needs to place a sample of their lederhosen, beer, thin rimmed glasses, composer music, nena and scorpion CD, cars, brotchen in a time capsule and bury it so future generations can once see what a german was like. The fertility rate of 1.3 will be the demise of the people.
05:05 March 30, 2010 by Wana Care
I see it is some extremist Christians who are all worried about the victims of Guantanamo escaping from the barbed wire. This must be all to familiar for Germany, of course before it was the Catholics against the Jewish,and this week we have discovered the purity of the Catholic bishops, but still under that cultish umbrella of Christianity. There a 1,000's of examples of Christian crazy cults in other denominations, but the media is focusing on those right now. It doesn't matter what religion or nationality a human is they are as Shakespeare described all of human emotions good and bad. Actually I used to belong to a cultish Christian organization, but now that my kids have grown they can't believe we were there with craziness. Now I believe in God, sometimes his name is Jesus & sometimes it is just inner power. If there is no room for listening, learning, differentiation, & the famous American way of rebel-revolution then there is probably one set of rules with a major cult leader. Well I think I am more afraid for the Gitmo victims than the for others. If I were the German people I would really be afraid of the CIA, or did they not hear how many innocent people they kidnapped, took into foreign countries to torture to death & they don't even have to account for it because its "State Secrets." Oh yes & on our CSP2 channel's they have outright lies from the Heritage foundation about recidivism, taken from NY Times-who printed it-apologized & retracted & today, some "experts" provided a lies, desperation & total propaganda- I have wanted to care about this situation because it is being done in my name & I know they have been completely deceptive, look at Mr. Aamar of Canada. Why has Pres. Bush said Mr. Shaker Aamer should be released in 2007 & Pres. Obama still has not released him. Everyone in my neighborhood signed a petition to have him live here in the southwestern plains. I would adore my grand-babies & the neighbors babies playing with little Aamer's babies-Oh wait his baby is now 8 years old.
06:46 March 31, 2010 by peschvogel
German taxpayer money going to work for others yet again...

@Wana Care: You need to submit to the NWO. Obey or else! Alles klar?
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