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Accused: jail better than my neighbour

The Local · 25 Sep 2012, 07:37

Published: 25 Sep 2012 07:37 GMT+02:00

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The man identified only as Hans-Jürgen B., “cannot deny” that he wanted to kill his neighbour, his lawyer said at Berlin district court.

“I’d rather spend ten years in jail than live with him any more,” he told policemen who questioned him afterwards, the court heard, according to the Tagesspiegel newspaper.

He is accused of attempted murder for allegedly shooting his 41-year-old neighbour Matthias S. when he came back home from walking his dog one evening in March 2012.

Hans-Jürgen B. waited for him in the staircase and shot him, following the injured man into the road. When Matthias S. flagged down a passing car and told him to drive, Hans-Jürgen B. followed, firing his pistol repeatedly at the car.

Matthias S. was seriously wounded in the lower abdomen in the attack while the driver of the car and his 16-year-old daughter who was with him, both suffered from shock.

Hans-Jürgen B. had lived for 11 years in his two-room apartment in the Lichtenberg district of Berlin before Matthias S. and his girlfriend moved in – with a large dog.

He and other tenants then reportedly complained of noise from the apartment that included barking, loud music, doors slamming, and sounds of the couple fighting, the paper reports.

At one point, Hans-Jürgen B. offered the new neighbour headphones, according to the paper. Matthias S. reportedly then turned down the bass on his stereo, but told him that he should get used to the loud music, and that he could play it until 10 p.m.

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Two weeks before the shooting the two almost came to blows, after Hans-Jürgen B. complained again about the noise, the paper said.

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Your comments about this article

08:31 September 25, 2012 by lucksi
I'm not saying he should have done that, but I understand him.
09:57 September 25, 2012 by Berlin fuer alles
Ditto lucksi. Sounds like a totally unreasonable neighbour who caused someone to go over the edge. Nothing worse that a noisy neighbour. What I would probably have done is found out when such neighbour usually sleeps and then position my stereo speakers in such a place as to disturb him without disturbing the rest of the house.
10:48 September 25, 2012 by grazhdanin
A barking dog can be very annoying, especially to those who don't own such a mentally (and often physically) disabled creature. It's a war declared by the dog owners, and here we got someone who defended himself, by the means of his own choice.
12:26 September 25, 2012 by DOZ
The banning of dogs is long overdue.
13:06 September 25, 2012 by pjnt
Is everyone mad today?

If your neighbour is noisy, call the police. If the dog causes problems, get a lawyer. There is no place for shooting anyone for any reason outside of personal mortal danger. Why did he have a gun in the first place? A pistol. Please. This guy needs some time in a small room to think about his crazy actions. The noisy neighbours need a bucket load of fines to consider.


Ban dogs? I've read your other posts. I don't think I'll respond to you any longer.
14:57 September 25, 2012 by Berlin fuer alles

I haven't read DOZ's other posts but his one about banning dogs has some merit. I am tired of walking in dog poo and tired of having them running after me when I go jogging in the park even though the owners are supposed to have them on a lead.

Dogs in the city should be reduced drastically by higher license fees and far stiffer fines to owners who do not control where they poo and where they run free. Dogs should come a distant second to humans and whilst I generally like dogs I sometimes wonder if some owners would rather humans left the city so they could have it for themselves and their dogs.

The park near me is out of bounds as far as I am concerned due to the amount of dog poo left everywhere. Could not consider it for a picnic or somewhere to lie when the sun shines.
15:03 September 25, 2012 by mobaisch
The irritation you would feel from a daily noise from a neighbor are far from being understood if you did not experience it.

I am experiencing it from russian above living family. Every night I fantasize of doing something. I cant stay like this anymore.. The last time, the woman slammed the door in my face saying "I have until 10:00 pm".

I have a 5 months old baby and I am not able to find an apartment so far.
15:33 September 25, 2012 by Berlin fuer alles

Read my post which is #2 on how to handle this.
17:34 September 25, 2012 by IchBinKönig
Haha. Ban dogs? This site is become more and more ridiculous by the day. Its a wonder anybody but the Islamists come here anymore.
17:45 September 25, 2012 by LiberalGuy
I'll give you my Newfoundland's when you take them from my cold dead hands
19:11 September 25, 2012 by marimay
Annoying and loud neighbors are the worst. Makes you wonder if some humans are even meant to live indoors.

And as usual Ichy's posts don't make sense.
19:20 September 25, 2012 by nemo999
Old age, loud music and close proximity will just about do it every time.
19:48 September 25, 2012 by franconia
Ban Dogs. More Dogs in Germany than people. Soon to be knee deep in dog s----t. Hardly anyone picks up after their "Children".
20:01 September 25, 2012 by schneebeck
Suppose we take all the neighbors that like loud music and make them live with other neighbors that like loud music. They can all listen to each others barking dogs too. And quiet neighbors can have quiet like the quiet they give.

Would the noisy neighbors like this, would they mind this arrangement? Or would they want to go and live in a place where they have quiet neighbors that are considerate. And still play their loud music.

What do you think?
20:12 September 25, 2012 by PNWDev
Ban dogs?

Typical left, blame the dog, excuse the owner. They always put the fault on the effect and rarely address the cause. Should we ban children too because some are problematic? What else should we ban? Oh that is right, ban free speech too because someone somewhere is offended.
20:42 September 25, 2012 by Berlin fuer alles
OK, ban the owners and leave the dogs to roam the streets on their own.

Seriously, the costs of cleaning up after dogs to make parks clean for humans should be recouped by taxing the ownership of dogs. That would probably result in less dogs and cleaner parks.
21:12 September 25, 2012 by joysonabraham
Dogs are such nice creatures..better than humans. ones own approach to dogs can indicate a persons overall behavior. In this case it shows very much.

Why there is police, couldn't he complain rather than taking the gun.
22:55 September 25, 2012 by Berlin fuer alles
Yes, dogs are very nice when they are well trained and have good owners. Unfortunately some people do not deserve to have a dog and do not take the proper responsibility for their dog. These people and not the dogs are the problem. A consistently barking dog is a problem and it is the owners fault as dogs can easily be trained to refrain from barking.

The best course of action here would have been a court injunction on the owner from owning a dog unless he controlled the dog properly. I guess shooting is over the top but sometimes this can happen to someone who tries to tolerate but just suddenly snaps due to pressure building up and no end in sight of the stress and pressure easing.
09:31 September 26, 2012 by pjnt
@berlin fuer alles

I completely agree about some parks and the landmines left all over them. I have 3 kids and nothing upsets me more than one falling in some dog crap.

That said, it's certainly not the dogs fault. Hence my comment on fines. If you have a noisy dog, you should be made to go to training classes and both you and your pet get the education needed. If your animal craps everywhere and you don't pick it up, pay 200 euros to have the town do it.

For the neighbours. Why can not people move? Get a lawyer if it is before 10pm? This man had a pistol in his house. He didn't just snap and hurt the man. He either has guns in his home or bought it just for this crime. Either way, very very bad.
11:01 September 26, 2012 by mobaisch
@berlin fuer alles

Thanks for the hints, but a year a go, I would have done what you mentioned, or I would not really care as much as now! I have a 5 months old baby and its really difficult to annoy my neighbors back because then I will have to deal with my baby :) .. Maybe I will wait tell my wife and kid leaves back home for a vacation and then I can unleash the WAR :) but till then, something would probably go wrong in my brain !!
14:55 September 26, 2012 by TheWonderer
The dog-owners are the problem, not the dogs.

First of all, a responsible owner will first think before acquiring a dog.

He will think about the amount of space available and about the time a family member is at home to care for the dog.

Why do you keep a huge dog in a 6th floor 1 or 2 room apartment?

Why do you keep a dog when it is left alone for 8 - 10 hours a day whilst the owner is at work?

Why do you keep a dog when you do not have a sufficient place to challenge it (to exhaust it and keep it fit)?

Why keep a dog when you do not have the time to play with it to teach it behaviour or the order in rank?

As long as some folks still use their pets as a prothesis to compensate for their own deficiencies, you do not need to be surprised that some dogs are mentally ill - their environment (especially their owner) drives them nuts!

It takes much more than just feeding a dog.

But when really made part of the pack (the family) where it knows it's place and with a place where it has enough room and leisure, all can be well.

Unfortunately, most dog-owners do not think that way...

"Does you dog like children?"

"Sure, but we feed him dog-bicuits, that's much cheaper..."

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