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'Missing' posters prompt Muslim anger

The Local · 1 Sep 2012, 17:31

Published: 01 Sep 2012 17:31 GMT+02:00

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The posters resemble those put up to try to find missing people and show a young person with accompanying messages from people concerned about the subject being a victim of such radicalisation.

"This is our son Ahmad," says one example, while another mentions Hassan, a third Fatima and the fourth, Tim.

The text talks of missing the subject of the poster; them having become withdrawn and more radical, and the fear of losing them to religious fanatics and terror groups.

Anti-discrimination groups as well as the Green party have also complained that the posters show people who appeared to be Muslims in a profile pose, as though on a wanted poster.

The poster campaign is to publicise a counselling centre that people can turn to if they think people close to them are showing signs of radicalisation.

Interior Minister Hans-Peter Friedrich said he regretted the withdrawal of the groups, saying he hoped they would return to the security partnership with the government.

His spokesman said the minister had been surprised at the criticism, claiming that the organisations who complained had given their approval to the campaign.

Muslim organisations including the Turkish-Islamic Union, the Association of Islamic Cultural Centres and the Islamic Community of Bosniaks joined the Central Council of Muslims in Germany in making their written protest.

They voiced general criticism of the Security Partnership, which was created to help curb religious extremism.

"Again and again, the Security Partnership presents us - as partners working in cooperation - with decisions that have already been made. It stirs up destructive arguments instead of constructive solutions,” they said.

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Rhineland-Palatinate's state integration commissioner Miguel Vicente, criticized the ministry for not abandoning the campaign. Green party co–leader Cem Özdemir said "You should really make a poster saying 'Missing: One interior minister who can do his job'".

Özdemir’s party colleague Renate Künast accused the minister of behaving like "a bull in a China shop".

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18:51 September 1, 2012 by Zubair Khan
Having an upper hand and being in power, Interior Minister should show more care for the emotions of Muslims. Before resorting to poster campaign he could have always consulted the associated organizations to reach to an effective way of campaigning. Still nothing is lost. Both sides can show flexibility and a agreeable solution can be found as cause of campaign is noble.
19:04 September 1, 2012 by marimay
I'm pretty sure Germany has more Norwegian shooter types and neo-nazis to worry about.
19:35 September 1, 2012 by sonriete
The campaign seems frightening to me. I think a mature democracy should be better able to tolerate differences in people, there also needs to be a limit to how far to push integration.

there are people in the east who choose to maintain their Sorb identity, in the south west they still teach Allemanisch in the lower grades.

We cshould also be big enough to accept that some Muslims here will live different lifestyles as well. The line should be drawn at any violence, but not multi cultural ism.
20:00 September 1, 2012 by realist1961
In addition to neo-nazis, Herr Friedrich needs to worry about German males who shoot their children and spouse. Please read Matthew 7:3-5 or any similar text on this matter.
22:46 September 1, 2012 by rutledm
'Missing' posters prompt Muslim anger.....bigger question, can any tell me what "doesn't" promt Muslim anger?
23:11 September 1, 2012 by ovalle3.14
Well what did these geniuses expect?
01:47 September 2, 2012 by Eastard
It might be wise for all to calibrate their offense...considering the flexibility one would get in downtown Iran for other than Islam.... Many folks have issue with the demand for flexibility from those who offer none... While the world witnesses these huge differences between requirements and behaviors it would be good for all to be sensitive to this... When in a country... respect the country's base... not your own...
09:24 September 2, 2012 by matchstickmann
@rutledm #5:

hmm i guess...........German males fathering kids with their own daughters and no one in the neighborhood has a clue to it until the whole thing is busted. buahahahahahaha :P
11:09 September 2, 2012 by jg.
The subject is radicalisation: exactly how many non-Muslims are radicalised by some religious belief and go on to become terrorists? Radicalisation might be less of a problem if more Muslims take as much offence from those who seek to spread subversion in their community and convert their friends and relatives to terrorists. It would be just as stupid for the Catholic church to claim that they are being victimised because investigations of child abuse have not focussed equally on other religions.
12:40 September 2, 2012 by alex533
I agree with rutledm and jg.

I really wonder why people sympathizes with those radical Muslim. The Poster was warning and offering help to RADICAL RELIGIOUS MUSLIMS AS WELL AS TERRORISTS. Therefor the non radical Muslims should not be offended by it.

It clearly states that the Muslim organizations approved this campaign at first. Now they oppose it????

"His spokesman said the minister had been surprised at the criticism, claiming that the organisations who complained had given their approval to the campaign."
15:36 September 2, 2012 by sonriete
The problem is that " radical" means different things to different people.

In France they are banning young Muslims boys from some public swimming pools because they won't wear the revealing speedo type swim suits favored by the native French,

They prefer to wear boarder shorts which to them conforms to the Muslim practice of showing modesty in public.

The authorities claim the reason is "hygiene" but it is obviously an over zealous attempt to impose conformity and punish them for following their religion as they knew it.
16:06 September 2, 2012 by Startbahn
I really wonder myself why some people don't get it. I say, let's have the exact same campaign against neo-nazism, hey aleax533? Posters all over Germany with your view of a typical German (to be clear, I'm almost certain that your view of a typical German would vary from mine). Wanted missing person! They could show the wife and kids in the background blurred-out of course. It only seems fair, don't you think? Such a clever campaign would go down particularly well in the east of Germany.
16:28 September 2, 2012 by Englishted
"Anti-discrimination groups as well as the Green party have also complained that the posters show people who appeared to be Muslims in a profile pose, as though on a wanted poster."

When was the last time anybody in Germany saw a real wanted poster? only in wild west films.

So surely the far right would want "unwanted " posters if there is such thing.
17:20 September 2, 2012 by friedenstempel
Muslims are not in anger, and not emotional about this, just representatives of muslim organisations use abitrary arguments to complain and seek media tattention share. it is safe to ignore them. If you want to play the "offended victim card" we cannot take them seriously.
20:14 September 2, 2012 by Bermudagirl
Everything prompts Muslim anger...so what else is new???
22:22 September 2, 2012 by Michel_Berlin
Good idea! We need more of those posters.

It's enough with bending backwards to accomodate middle age muslim "laws and customs".

They decided to live in a modern western country, either they adapt to OUR laws and customs or they better leave.

Decades of tolerance got us nothing but only into a state where gays and Jews and even ordinary women just walking down the street are in danger of being attacked by them. Not to mention the danger of terrorist attacks. Who do they think they are!
22:42 September 2, 2012 by wenddiver
Comment: @ Sonierette- there are people in the east who choose to maintain their Sorb identity, in the south west they still teach Allemanisch in the lower grades. Not exactly an Apples to Apples/Oranges to Oranges comparison, but for Germany's sake I hope your new Muslim population will be like the Sorb population, in which case they will fight on the German side in war time, insist their children learn the German language and culture alongside of Wendish and adopt a German Religion like Lutheranism. Even upon immigrating the Wends in Texas still have all the sayings in St. Paul's Church in Serbin, Texas (Google Texas Wendish Heritage Society) still written in German, of course of course as the regular German Lutherans next door at St. Pauls so nicely used to point out they have only had, since 1854 to change the inscriptions to English. I eagerly await the news of Germany's new Muslim Citizens rushing to the flag to defend Germany against radical Islam, the way the Sorbs fought for Germany in 2 World Wars against Slavic enemies, but I won't hold my breath.
18:30 September 3, 2012 by sonriete

Yes I agree Lutheranism is a German religion.

On the other hand half of the native Germans are Roman Catholic and they look to Rome for spiritual guidance just as Muslims look to Mecca.
16:50 September 6, 2012 by steel jaws
What is a normal and what is a radical Moslem? A short look at the countries which are under the rule of Islam does not give a clear answer. From an outside point of view, the various sections of this religion seem to be spending more time killing each other than working for the good of everybody. Where emotion plays a higher role than intelligence, there will always be enough reason to feel insulted rather than to accept that others may have a different opinion.

It could be hoped, that in countries such as Germany, the various religions would be examined for their positive and negative characteristics, in order to provide a basis for the thoughts of children who are not yet old enough to decide what may be right or wrong, true or false.

Extremists, from what ever religion they come, are frightened of such freedom of thought. The outrage of Frau Charlotte Knobloch published in a German newspaper, is a typical example of those people who are quite prepared to live in Germany but unable to accept the German way of life, or to find a good word for the native population. If Germany is so bad, why are such unhappy people still here?
19:06 September 13, 2012 by wenddiver
@Sonriette- Yes, but if German Catholics recieved an order from Rome to kill Lutherans in the 20 th Century it would be rejected as ignorant and barbaric. Fighting with the authorities for their trying to stop terrorism only makes the moderates terrorists themselves. Your either part of the solution or part of the problem in this world. It's not possible to respect people who blow themselves up in shopping ares and public buses and not be considered mentally unbalanced.

It's like the Mohammed Movie, your reaction can be basically three things (a) ignore it, (b) make an intelligent argument against it, (c) call the person a vulgar name, (d) go out and murder an innocent third party. If you choose (d) your accuser wins his argument and you look worse than he portrayed you. I would argue that terrorism has done more to block the spread of Islam than any other thing ever done, because it creates and re-inforces a worse image than any outside group could ever create.

Is there any doubt in your mind that if a Lutheran, a Catholic or Buddhist Official advocated murder, hat they would be expelled from the group forever?

The Government Officials didn't create the bad image, the terrorists did, all the Government did was try to protect children from people that try to strap bombs on them. For sane people that's a good thing, they should be thanked for protecting/caring about the children.
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