• Germany's news in English

Turkish PM cancels visit, protests due without him

The Local · 17 Mar 2012, 10:04

Published: 17 Mar 2012 10:04 GMT+01:00

Facebook Twitter Google+ reddit

Erdogan cancelled his trip to the western German town of Bochum after a Turkish military helicopter crashed into a house in Afghanistan killing at least 12 Turkish soldiers and five people on the ground, including two children.

Yet police said on Saturday morning they were still expecting tens of thousands of people to demonstrate against the awarding of the Steiger Award for Europe to Erdogan. The prize was to be given to him as a representative of the Turkish people for "50 years of German-Turkish friendship."

But those still set to take to Bochum’s streets on Saturday include German Armenians, Kurds and Alevis, who have called the award a “slap in the face for all minorities in Turkey,” according to a statement from Germany's Alevi Community. Seven separate demonstrations have been registered with the police, and are still expected to take place.

Other people set to receive prizes include Queen Silvia of Sweden for her charity work, former German President Horst Köhler under the category “tolerance,” and even rock legend Lou Reed for his music.

Gerhard Schröder had been booked to deliver Erdogan’s laudation at the ceremony. In an open letter, writer Ralph Giordano criticised the former German chancellor for agreeing to speak. He said should not support the Turkish prime minister as long as Erdogan refuses to recognise the 1915-6 genocide of the Armenians.

Story continues below…

DPA/The Local/hc

The Local (news@thelocal.de)

Facebook Twitter Google+ reddit

Your comments about this article

10:54 March 17, 2012 by mike_1983
the germans are so weak these days!

AS IF this man deserves this prize!

what a complete joke!!!
10:56 March 17, 2012 by klaus stoiber
The honourable thing for prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan to do, is to inform his own turkish people who reside in Germany that they have a future in Turkey and that it is their responsibility to preserve Turkish language,culture and Turkish fatherland in Turkey itself, and not in Germany.

Right now, this irresponsible german government is considering implementing affirmative action laws in Germany, to assist Turks living here. What this means, is that if you are a Turk, you will get job preference here, a land which you have no history living in. We ,the Germans, have been living here for thousands of years already, our genes are synonymous with this land, and now our own kids, brothers and sister might easily be overlooked for work in favour of turks, in our OWN country? Even a senile person would know that this is wrong, even more wrong since Germans dont make economic and social demands on the Turkish republic.

This is a disgace to any German should this happen.
15:17 March 17, 2012 by TimDavies
Klaus, genes are synonymous with an area of land? While you may have a good deal in common with a clod of earth I'm afraid this simply cannot be, it's nonsense.

Greeks and Turks rebuilt your country, dope. Have some bloody respect.

But my real point is that your post is nothing to do with the article. People like you are what turns any reasoned discourse into hot air and 'who can shout loudest' contests. There are plenty of weirdo, fringe circles for your type of discussion, I'm sure.

Pleasingly ironic spelling of 'disgrace' though, thanks for that, anyway.

Kind of wondered if anyone had anything to say on the article though?
16:50 March 17, 2012 by Englishted
I still think Turkey is not a European country ,The Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan does not reside in Europe so how can he recieve a European award ?.
19:27 March 17, 2012 by Peepopaapo
@ TimDavies: Sorry guy, but the Germans rebuilt their country by themselves, especially the so called German "Truemmerfrauen" - widows who had lost their husbands, brothers, fathers and sons - so you should have some bloody respect!
20:59 March 17, 2012 by PNWDev
@ Klaus Stoiber


America offers Germany a fore glimpse of what is coming. In the US it is, ¦quot;press 1 for English, press 2 for Spanish.¦quot; In Germany it will be, ¦quot;Press 1 for Deutsch, press 2 for Turkic.¦quot;

And speaking out against what is happening will get you the ¦quot;racist¦quot; label because they simply have no other defense against the truth of this trend

@ TimDavies

Get a clue. Respect is accepting the invite of your host country and honoring and respecting its cultural identity. ¦quot;Bloody respect¦quot; is not coming in and trying to change it to accommodate the culture you willingly left behind.

Land is cheap in Mexico and Turkey, the language choice is yours so long as you go there to speak it. Now go learn what respect means.
22:58 March 17, 2012 by joysonabraham
1) Its funny that everyone relate integration with ability to speak language.

As is that's what all is needed. Even though even Germans agree that its one of the hardest language to learn and learning language needs different set of skills than what you need to work with technology.

If you wait for people who speak German to work here it will be real hard to get talent from outside.

2) I have seen so many people who come from other countries while waiting in line in the auslanderberhode, most of them speak German but the only problem is most of them haven't changed a bit. They still behave the same way as in the country from where they come from.

3) It takes time to learn the language, those who come in and those who receives them should know this. Those who come in should take extra precaution not to violate the rules in the host country, to behave the best ways the host country people behave. E.G. If you come from a country where women are second class, you cannot treat women like that in your host country, whether you speak the hosts language or not. If you spit on the foot path in your country, you cant do the same in the host country.
08:41 March 18, 2012 by hereward
"Our mosques are our barraks,minnaretts are our spears"does not sound even remotely friendly to the host culture,not to mention the turks effect upon every German election,where said turk recieves his orders upon whom to vote for from the turkish government,"terra mutata non mutat mores"
20:50 March 18, 2012 by Turtlez
@ PNWDev

You are so right. This reminds me a lot of the situation here in America. Though, as far as I know, the Mexican leader has never been given an award. I would be infuriated if he was given a reward and I understand from this situation why the German people would be angry over the Turkish PM getting an award. It makes little sense.

@ Klaus Stoiber

Yes, you have just summed up how I feel about Mexicans in America. They should respect the host country. That sounds ridiculous that the Turkish would have more benefits than the Germans in Germany. That they are actually assisting the Turkish in such a way, that it may cost Germans possible jobs. Though in America Mexicans are not given such benefits, they do fill job spots that Americans could have. The immigration here from Mexico is out of hand, not much seems to be happening about it other than debates than go in circle and end up nowhere.

For the Turkish PM to receive a prize, I simply find it amazing. Why would anyone support it? The Turks should respect Germany. You don't go to somebody's house and demand for them to feed you. You respect them and be grateful they're having you over.
01:51 March 19, 2012 by lewis69
Well i guess this has become another debate on immigration so ill throw in my opinion. I think that is a bad idea to have mass immigration. I can understand bringing in highly skilled people like doctors but not their elderly parents and not thousands of unskilled people from third world countries.
08:59 March 20, 2012 by Michael R
@ lewis69.......I couldn't agree with you more. Importing third world illiterates especially those with a backward religion is a recipe for disaster. Having experienced all the problems with Mexicans in LA and Turks/Arabs in Berlin, makes me a firm believer of strict quality control of those attempting to settle in first world countries.
Today's headlines
Obama to visit Berlin in last presidential trip to Germany
President Barack Obama and Chancellor Angela Merkel during a Berlin trip in 2013. Photo: DPA.

The White House announced on Tuesday that US President Barack Obama will be paying one last unexpected visit to the German capital - his last before he leaves office.

Hostility towards minorities 'widespread in Bavaria'
A village in southern Bavaria. Photo: DPA.

Hate and hostility towards groups deemed to be different are not just sentiments felt by fringe extremists, a new report on Bavaria shows.

Hated RB Leipzig emerge as shock challengers to Bayern
RB Leipzig. Photo: DPA

RB Leipzig's remarkable unbeaten start to the Bundesliga season has seen them suddenly emerge at the head of the pack chasing reigning champions and league leaders Bayern Munich.

Munich taxi driver in hospital after attack by British tourists
Photo: DPA

A taxi driver had to be hospitalized in Munich on Monday evening after three British tourists refused to pay their fare and then attacked him.

German police carry out nationwide anti-terror raids
Police outside a building in Jena during raids on Tuesday. Photo: DPA

Police forces in five German states carried out raids on Tuesday morning with the aim of tackling the financing of terror groups, police in Thuringia have reported.

The Local List
10 ways German completely messes up your English
Photo: DPA

So you've mastered German, but now it's time to learn English all over again.

Iconic German church being eroded away by human urine
Ulm Minster towering over the rest Ulm surrounding the Danube. Photo: Pixabay

It will now cost you €100 to spend a penny. That’s if you get caught choosing to pee against the world-famous Ulm Minster.

German small arms ammo exports grow ten-fold
Photo: DPA

The government has come in for criticism after new figures revealed that Germany exported ten times the quantity of small arms ammunition in the first half of 2016 as in the same period last year.

14-year-old stabs 'creepy clown' in prank gone wrong
File photo: DPA.

A 16-year-old in Berlin decided he wanted to scare some friends, but his plot backfired in a violent way.

Four Ku Klux Klan groups active in Germany, says govt
An American member of the KKK at a gathering in Georgia. Photo: EPA.

The German government estimates that there are four Ku Klux Klan (KKK) groups currently active in the country, according to a report by the Süddeutsche Zeitung (SZ) on Tuesday.

Germany's 10 most weird and wonderful landmarks
Sponsored Article
Last chance to vote absentee in the US elections
10 things you never knew about socialist East Germany
How Germans fell in love with America's favourite squash
How I ditched London for Berlin and became a published author
12 clever German idioms that'll make you sound like a pro
23 fascinating facts you never knew about Berlin
9 unmissable events to check out in Germany this October
10 things you never knew about German reunification
10 things you're sure to notice after an Oktoberfest visit
Germany's 10 most Instagram-able places
15 pics that prove Germany is absolutely enchanting in autumn
10 German films you have to watch before you die
6 things about Munich that’ll stay with you forever
10 pieces of German slang you'll never learn in class
Ouch! Naked swimmer hospitalized after angler hooks his penis
Six reasons why Berlin is now known as 'the failed city'
15 tell-tale signs you’ll never quite master German
7 American habits that make Germans very, very uncomfortable
Story of a fugitive cow who outwitted police for weeks before capture
Eleven famous Germans with surnames that'll make your sides split
The best ways to get a visa as an American in Germany
jobs available
Toytown Germany
Germany's English-speaking crowd