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Schröder backs up old friend Putin

The Local · 7 Mar 2012, 13:03

Published: 07 Mar 2012 13:03 GMT+01:00

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“I think he is seriously trying to direct his country towards real democracy,” Schröder said of Putin in an interview with German state radio Deutschlandfunk on Wednesday. “No-one knows better than him that there is still a lot to be done.”

The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), which sent observers to the Russian presidential election on Sunday, has accused the Kremlin of systematic election fraud.

“There were serious problems from the very start of this election. The point of elections is that the outcome should be uncertain,” Tonino Picula, co-ordinator of the short-term OSCE observer mission, said in a statement.

“This was not the case in Russia. There was no real competition and abuse of government resources ensured that the ultimate winner of the election was never in doubt.”

Activists have also alleged there was evidence of widespread ballot box stuffing and other forms of election manipulation, but Schröder remained unimpressed.

“I have no personal information about these elections,” Schröder said. “But when I see one or two professional election observers from Germany talk about it, I’m not so sure whether their pre-judgements are not bigger than their judgements.”

“That’s why I don’t want to take part in this discussion, for good reasons,” he added. “But I think it’s notable that the elected president has made clear that any accusation that can be substantiated will be investigated.”

After he left office in 2005, Schröder became board chairman at German-Russian operating company Nord Stream, which operates a natural gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea from Russia to Germany.

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Gazprom, a Russian company in which the Russian government holds a controlling stake, is Nord Stream’s majority shareholder.

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14:52 March 7, 2012 by Englishted
Corrupt pair if ever there was .

Gerhard Schröder should hang his head in shame he alone tried to stay in power by making "deals" with any party at any cost . He failed and went to Gazprom ,he should be investigated for fraud and corruption.
16:14 March 7, 2012 by romber58

Details/proof please.

Otherwise what you wrote is no different than what any Stammtischheini in his cups would say while imagining that he is fully informed.
16:19 March 7, 2012 by klaus stoiber

Because of Schröder, and Agenda 2010, Germany has avoided a Greek situation of default, the economy today is better than what it was when he took office after Helmut Kohl's reign of economic terror and the signing away of sovereign German land in east Prussia. Why should Russia prove anything to anyone, especially the USA, when the USA itself doesnt have honest election. Remember Florida 2000 Gore/ Bush scandal?
16:28 March 7, 2012 by raandy
Gazprom lives on, Thank you for standing by your old pal. I believe that the observers made it clear along with the pictures of ballot box stuffing that the election was a joke just as democracy is a joke in the mafia state called Russia.
17:34 March 7, 2012 by storymann
Comment: Klaus stolber I would take issue with your statement concerning USA elections, I doubt you have ever seen or been in an American election.Florida was about how to read the ballot not ballot box stuffing,no fraud was ever proven or made an issue by the apposing party. Lets see some proof and pictures. The USA, and all democratic nations have every right to criticize an election that was by all observers outside the Russian Federation considered fraudulent . Russia is one of the most corrupt counties or the most in Europe Asia.

a cut and pate from the times The New York Times: yesterday underscored an important fact that so many legislators have willfully ignored: "There is almost no voter fraud in America." Indeed, The Department of Justice investigated over 300 million votes cast between 2002 and 2007 and found no cases of voter impersonation fraud. In Texas, where Governor Rick Perry used a highly unusual procedural maneuver to accelerate passage of a bill requiring a government-issued photo ID to vote, the state Attorney General found no cases of voter impersonation fraud. Zero.
18:06 March 7, 2012 by derExDeutsche
@klaus stoiber

'Because of Schröder, and Agenda 2010, Germany has avoided a Greek situation of default, the economy today is better than what it was when he took office'

Curious then that his wisdom was never passed along to the rest of the EU. No, as I remember, the accumulation of debt outside of Germany was encouraged as others bought Merc's, Beemer's and Siemens. Seems he had a plan for what he foresaw of the future.

and, I am not even going to touch the idiocy of your Bush/Gore argument, storymann did just fine.
18:12 March 7, 2012 by klaus stoiber

Do u know/aware of who runs the American media, the governmt and the US financial system? Do u really believe everything that comes from that media? Do u also believe that Weapons of Mass Destruction existed in Iraq before the Americans bombed Iraq and in the process murdered innocent Iraqis? Do u also believe that Iran possesses these weapons? Libya is now more unstable and its people suffering much more now than before Gadaffi. Americans should rise up and bring America back to Americans. The federal reserve should be abolished,US troops should be withdrawn, instead of fighting wars for a certain country, whos name i wont mention, cause my user name will be banned, but u can work it out for yourself. Bring american troops back to Kansas is what I say. Why let American troops die for a certain country which is not American. Why allow americans to die, be maimed and be blinded for a non-American cause? The people controlling the American economy, its media and its government should be prosecuted so that americans can be set free,and thes people should stop pointing fingers at other countries, with the aim of blinding innocent americans into backing all the hogwash they spew on their controlled media. I fully support Putin
18:25 March 7, 2012 by klaus stoiber
@derExDeutsche Schröder's reforms could have been passed along the entire EU, but as you know, the EU exists but you still have sovereign countries. At least Schröder had vision: accept work or your benefits would be cut (good idea) . Germany should stop being a welfare state and encourage germans to work, to accept new training, instead of allowing foreigners to swamp germany and bring on the demise of the german fatherland, the german culture and german language. Germans have a responsibility to stop this growing trend. Regarding my Gore/ Bush statement, it is in no way a stupid statement, the fact that Bush had to be SELECTED by 3 out of 5 judges to become president, instead of being ELECTED the president by its people shows a lack of respect to the people of florida. Obama carried Florida quite handsomely.
18:30 March 7, 2012 by derExDeutsche
@ klaus stoiber

the fact that you're still wanting to devide Americans over hanging chads in 1 County in florida 2000, shows your political affiliation. Surely, it would not be an issue worth mentioning had Gore won a 3rd recount? Now you want to play the Big Libertarian? HAHAHAHAHA. I laugh in your face. The media? You mean the Corporatist Media like the ones owned by Disney, GE, AOL Time Warner, Viacom, ETC? The ones that Back only 1 candidate and brutalize anyone else? They don't even need to attack with substance, they just throw out the same tired lines, 'Idiot' 'Racist' 'Tea Bagger' You talk about the Iraq war as if it were the last one? No, it is the only you you feel comfortable bashing with all conviction, because you've been a registered Democrat.

That said, it sounds like you're waking up a bit. and I won't look gift horses in the mouth.
18:37 March 7, 2012 by Englishted

1 He was in coalition with the Greens ,then he was in the "grand coalition with his own parties natural opposites the C.D.U., there are not many parties left to join up with just to remain Chancellor .

2 I believe the gas pipeline was given approval when he was in charge ,then he is on the board afterwards. Could be pure as driven snow which is why I would like it looked into?

@klaus stoiber

Germany and France both broke the rules set by themselves in 2003 and 2004 ,by exceeding the government spending over G.D.P. and who was in charge?

But what happened to those rule breakers ,fines? ,threats , yes you are right nothing ,nothing at all .
18:39 March 7, 2012 by klaus stoiber

Dont make assumptions about me or anyone else(for that matter), but it sure sounds to me on whos side you are. I mention facts and then you change the debate into something of mud slinging , whereas their are issues worth debating such as those i mentioned and then you, sir, intentionally go off course by accusing me of being a democrat, amongst other thing(s), an assumption u just pulled out of the sky. Sure sounds to me that u are well trained by those who control the american media into bamboozling americans and the rest of the world with your false facts and assumtpions about the state of affairs of UN recognised sovereign lands,and now u have the audacity to come on here, instead of agreeing with me that the florida results were doctored and that a recount would have been the best option.

What happens in Russia has NOTHING to do with Washington.
18:47 March 7, 2012 by Englishted
Here is a strange thing .

@derExDeutsche thinks @klaus stoiber ,is a lefty .

whereas he sounds right wing to me.

@klaus stoiber

Could you please clear up this matter ?.
19:02 March 7, 2012 by klaus stoiber
@Englishted Germany and France ARE the EU, and without them Greece wouldnt get a bail out, Italy would be stranded and so forth. Nothing wrong if Germany breaks any EU rules, since it is the source of revenue. And by the way big man/woman- why does the EU exist anyway? Doesnt serve any purpose. Helmut Kohl needs to be brought to trial and explain to the german people why he allowed this and why he signed away east prussia
19:14 March 7, 2012 by derExDeutsche
@ klaus stoiber


I know why you keep barking up the same tree. I am a Libertarian. and you, sir, are a S#!t diturber.
19:23 March 7, 2012 by klaus stoiber

Pffrrttt @ nytimes

The way u handled yourself, pretending to be an honest broker failed miserably. Your tactics are typical of a New World Order member/sympathiser: facts are presented and then you stray off the point and start your mudslinging at others. This tactic gets used in the mass media, when someone opposes american involvement in unnecesary foreign wars, asks valid questions about job losses, and why so many american jobs are under threat due to cheap chinese imports and mass illegal immigration from third world cesspools, while the USA with the best army in the world cannot even defend/guard its own borders and why financial terrorists are allowed to run free by manipulating oil prices and foreign exchange rates. Theres no reason in the world why the oil price is above $120, but of course, your tactic is to sling more mud at me and try to make ME look like the bad one.

You sir, are a typical agent for these New World Order terrorists
19:45 March 7, 2012 by Englishted
@klaus stoiber,

Thank you for the clarification, following you comments on the E.U. and East Prussia you have proved my perception correct and @derExDeutsche wrong .

I believe you see yourself as the vanguard of the forth reich.
19:51 March 7, 2012 by klaus stoiber

So now im labelled as "the vanguard of the fourth Reich"

Everything I spoke about is based on FACTS. Im 100% sure that you know what facts are. I never spoke about nazism, about killing people, about occupying sovereign countries. Yet, the USA does precisely this, viz, killing innocent people and occupying foreign countries even though Syria, Libya, Iran and Iraq are no threats to the USA.

....And now, they have a problem with yet another country, called, Russia.
19:51 March 7, 2012 by derExDeutsche
@klaus stoiber

I want the Government small enough to drown in a bath tub. That just won't fit your narrative. You, sir, are propagating divisive history for the sake of division. 95% of what you ramble on about happened 2000-2008. No wonder why you're much more forgetful of more recent events. I know who you are, your comments give you away... 'Obama carried Florida quite handsomely. '

20:03 March 7, 2012 by klaus stoiber

You sure have a strange definition of "recent events" The years between 2000 and 2008 happen to be very recent. The Obama administration is still struggling to rectify the maladministration of the George W Bush years, people are still jobless, the US dollar lost 50% of its value vs the Euro and so forth.

Your name calling and mudslinging of myself and others just further enhances the fact that you are a supporter of the new world order and all their criminal adherents.

Please continue on your mudslinging of myself, because i know you CANT handle me and you CANT handle the truth
20:08 March 7, 2012 by derExDeutsche
hahahahahaha. Yes, because everything that is wrong with America happened 'The years between 2000 and 2008' . George W Bush, blah blah blah. Where is Clinton, oh GREAT Unbias one? YOU ARE THE ONE CALLING ME NAMES. 'Supporter of NWO'? WHY THE MUD SLINGING, STUPID?

you say 'I fully support Putin '

Yes, and I am the NWO drone. HAHAHAHA
20:13 March 7, 2012 by klaus stoiber

Bill Clinton at least managed to have a balanced budget, was not as blood thirsty as George W Bush, and at least, the US economy was on a better track.

Do you know how much it costs in money terms to keep soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan? How much lives have been lost (2500 in Iraq alone, excluding those that have been permanently disabled, brain damaged, blinded) ? Thanks to George W Bush and his fellow criminal elites, at least 2500 families across the USA will never see their relatives alive again.

Like I said, u cant handle me, and facts, hence the name calling and mudslinging.
20:17 March 7, 2012 by derExDeutsche
@ klaus stoiber

'The Obama administration is still struggling to rectify the maladministration of the George W Bush years, '

This statement is all anyone needs to read to know where your ideology lies.
20:25 March 7, 2012 by klaus stoiber

And where is it that you assume my ideology lies?

Care to explain to me as well as the entire world?
20:30 March 7, 2012 by Englishted
@klaus stoiber

Why do you associate the forth Reich with the nazis?

The first and second had nothing to do with them either .
20:37 March 7, 2012 by klaus stoiber

If someone makes a spelling error once, i can accpt it, but when someone uses the word "forth" instead of the word "fourth", i start questioning the mental maturity as well as/ or the english capabilities of that individual.

Nevertheless, the FOURTH Reich is associated with nazis and neo nazism.
01:45 March 8, 2012 by neunElf
Dear Klaus Stoiber,

"Bill Clinton at least managed to have a balanced budget, was not as blood thirsty as George W Bush, and at least, the US economy was on a better track."

Bill Clinton had balanced budgets once the Republicans took control of the House and were in charge of spending! Before the GOP took control Clinton didn't have balanced budgets.

How's Barry Obama doing on the spending front?
03:10 March 8, 2012 by derExDeutsche
@ klaus stoiber

ok, I've got a guess at what you are;

White European Nationalist and Palestine sympathizer. a white kollectivist;P
12:49 March 8, 2012 by benjahmin

@klaus stoiber

Jeez guys. If you re-read your comments, you actually have a lot of common ground. Drop the republican/democrat bull. There just puppets of the same master. America has not been "free" since JFK and probably before. The NWO is here. And if we dont all come together, we will ALL get shafted. Republocrat or Demopublican.
14:36 March 8, 2012 by Michael R
@ storyman..The Florida Supreme Court had decided in favor of a recount.When it became obvious that Bush was about to lose, the REPUBLICAN majority Supreme Court decided to over ride the Floridian Supreme Court by suddenly cancelling the recount altogether, thus installing George Bush. If you don't call this cheating then what was it?
00:23 March 9, 2012 by chewstroke
Puting told Chewstroke.com the elections were rigged, he knows it....
23:06 March 9, 2012 by Americansurvivors
Here's a little premonition for you all!!!

Obama is the last American president wether he wins or not wether he's a real legitimate president or not probably not.

Putin will make a preemptive strike on America and destroy America and I will live through it.

We will be scourge of the world and be scoffed at for getting what we've been giving for years taking peace from others will allways come home to roost.

We will be a non factor not exactly sure wether Iran attack or whatever will start it but Israel or ISA will be at war or both when this happens. It will be okay though because Russia will be next along with Iran and some others and there will be nowhere safe to run to on this earth as all men will be judged for their sins.

Were at the end and this world will surely get to see these things come to pass Gods day sabbath is Saturday and I'm not jewish.

I alsO know about the ten commandments being the royal law of God and Jesus said he didn't come to change it but fulfill it.

The men of this world are confused and have no clue mostly what they are doing but the one man who does know carries the American army at his will to start wars and destroy country's at will who would that really be? Would have to a royal wouldn't it lol would have to be the next one in line from the line the royal line like the bible says.

He will be the one who knows all these things that sound so far fetched and amazingly crazy these things will lead to marks on the right hand and or forehead which I will die before I take gladly.

There men will pay the price with your souls and blood gladly because that's what their goal is riches in this world and the chance of taking something from the creator which cannot be taken.

Muslims will find out the faith the have was an invented one from Catholics when they couldn't convert people they started wars and killed the older ones to gain acess to their children. These Jesuits wow what a group they are we would be better off without them for certain. All thes things are guaranteed to come to pass a little ways away maybe a month or a week or year or three but it won't be long now. I didn't make any of these premonitions at all these are all there for us to see in the king James bible if we have ears to hear and eyes to see most will not endure sound doctrine at this time. All these politics make mo real difference as God said it would happen and he gives evil leaders to country's without him that mock him America has had many already. We stand ready to live out these things that will come to pass I think in the next few months to a year. I stand ready because I choose faith of God over faith in men who have proven to be corrupted and wrong about most everything. With faith all things are possible.
23:36 March 9, 2012 by PierceArrow
Gerhard Schröder is correct when he calls Putin "a democrat through and through". The Democrat Party in the USA has been notorious for voter fraud for over two centuries!
05:47 March 12, 2012 by Redfeather
Gore conceded, that is why Bush won in round 2.

Obama should not win again; or should I say Obusha. Not much difference in the 2. Both corrupt. America has not had a good president, including Clinton, in a very long time because they are puppets of the top 2%.

Hope Putin wins. I like his straight forward honesty. He does not mix words and is very accurate in his selection of them.

I was trying to find the feeds... so, why did Germany get rid of Prussia?
17:09 March 16, 2012 by raandy
klaus stoiber, the fact that you support Putin, and seem to be all pumped up on BullSh^t makes anything you say not creditable, dupe.
02:41 March 17, 2012 by alex533
Gerhard Schröder is a disgrace for Germany!!
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