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Anti-German sentiment rising in Greece

The Local · 11 Feb 2012, 12:43

Published: 11 Feb 2012 12:43 GMT+01:00

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In the face of further belt-tightening, which the populace blames on German leader Angela Merkel’s policies, long-time German residents of Greece say there has been a worsening of Greek-German relations.

They say some Greeks feel Germans are playing the role of the teacher who knows better.

“You know everything better and when someone is lying on the ground you know how to give him a good kick,” a market vendor in Athens told a German woman who has lived in Greece for 32 years.

Diplomatic circles and the journalist association have warned against escalating the bad feelings and the tourism industry is trying to contain the damage.

But newspapers quote headlines in the German press and note that the Germans are blaming the Greek populace as a whole and not its politicians for the financial difficulties. The Greek press notes that German papers have run stories about the “lazy Greeks.”

Young people in a Greek bar were clearly irritated about this, noting that it is just as unfair to make stereotypes about the Greeks as it is about the Germans.

“Laziness is not a part of the Greek DNA, just as being a Nazi is not a part of the German DNA,” one said.

But anti-German talk and Nazi comparisons are increasing. The populist newspaper Dimokratia published a picture of Merkel in a Nazi uniform with the subtitle Memorandum makes you free. The saying referred to a memo for the savings program European Union negotiators have been working on with cash-strapped Greece. The makes you free was a direct reference to a sign above concentration camps that cynically said: work makes you free.

Diplomats are concerned about the situation, though many believe most Greeks and Germans still do not speak negatively about each other. The operative word here is still, they warned.

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That has not allayed tourism industry fears. “For us, such declarations are poison,” said Aililios Santis, the owner of a small hotel in a suburb of Athens.

Hotel director Christos Pilatakiss from Rhodes said, “Every year we expect about 2.5 million Germans. That’s an important income source and in these times very important," he said. The hotelier said there are indications that bookings this year will drop by 30% compared to 2011. He said he is not aware of anti-German rhetoric in his area. “For us, the tourist is king, no matter where he comes from. We’re trying here to keep the damage under control.”

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13:13 February 11, 2012 by smart2012
Am not surprised of this. Politicians, stop acting driven by short term and local goals (ie reelection) and think long term and globally. otherwise ww3 is the near future
13:29 February 11, 2012 by TheCrownPrince
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14:06 February 11, 2012 by ovalle3.14
I guess I wouldn't have a lot going on for a country that suggested I sell one of my islands, implied I was a lazy bastard or proposed to run the fiscal system of my country... even if this country was actually right.
14:16 February 11, 2012 by Naurgul
TheCrownPrince, if you allow yourself to call all the people of Greece useless, totally corrupt, backwards, undeserving of help and a permanent nuisance, what makes you think that the Greeks would be above calling you a nazi? After all, the atrocities of WW2 are as much historical fact as the corruption perception index you cite.

So instead of going down the path of stereotypes and nationalism, may I suggest we drop the name-calling and try to solve the problems, not in a punitive, but in a constructive way? Is that too much to ask?
14:30 February 11, 2012 by smart2012
Agree with naurgul :) btw, let's not forget that 3 years ago greece lost a lot of money trusting German banks, which threw away money in the USA bubble...
14:46 February 11, 2012 by raandy
The Greeks are looking for a scape goat, Germany seems to have taken on this role.

How can you blame Germany when you lied , and had a system that was so corrupt,no one of high income paying any tax .

You reap what you have sown.
14:47 February 11, 2012 by Bigfoot76
If I need help from someone in order to save my interests, the last thing I am going to do is insult them with such extreme fashion. It is by no means original or creative to hit Germany with the Nazi theme. A fresh idea would be impressive. Maybe somehow tie the issue into the movie Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. That would show the world that the Greek media can think of something interesting.
14:51 February 11, 2012 by TheCrownPrince
Yes, and let's not forget that only a few weeks ago the greek administration stopped to hand out pensions to 63.500 non-existing pensioners. And let's also not forget that before the reforms the Greeks are battling now it was possible in Greece for a state-employed electrician to go into retirement with 52 years and 2.800 Euro pension per month (after tax, of course). Quite impressive for a country without any noteworthy industry, isn't it? All this (and much more) had to be paid for with some shipping, a non-competitive tourism branch and olive-oil-export. Furthermore, Greece's administration is - a proven fact - on the level of a third world country's and tax evasion seems/seemed to be some kind of national sport down there. But all that was no problem for ten years, because thanks to the Euro you could just pile up debts with low interest rates and never think of how to pay them back. Yes, all others are to blame for the current mess, but certainly not the Greeks.
14:53 February 11, 2012 by storymann
The Greeks are frustrated and demoralized over the austerity measures.In many cases people have lost their retirements , jobs and savings.

It is understandable that they have targeted Germany, however incorrect this is.
15:04 February 11, 2012 by derExDeutsche
To Germany, Greece is only important because it represents the lynch pin that holds the Credit rating of European Union together. No more, no less. If it were not for this, Greece would default, like any normal country would. Germany does not care about Sovereignty or democracy. It cares about the European Union which IT hold the reins to.
15:57 February 11, 2012 by Englishted

"You reap what you have sown."

Ah but ,Germany and France both broke the fiscal rules for three years and what happened to them?

Nothing ,simple because they are the bully boys of the €uro zone so we can use platitudes like having you cake and eating it .

If I were a Greek I would anti German (government not people) and it will spread to Spain with mass youth unemployment and Italy if the same tactics are used on them.

Growth is the only way out of this mess that was not created by the small people ,you know the ones paying the price.
16:00 February 11, 2012 by Anth2305
Max Keiser's depiction not very flattering towards Germany either.

16:03 February 11, 2012 by vonSchwerin
The Germans may be bossy Besserwisser (know-it-alls), but it is outrageous to compare them to Nazis. No one is being shipped in rail cars to death camps. If Greek leaders resist German demands, they won't be hanged or shot against a wall.
16:38 February 11, 2012 by derExDeutsche
Germany is helping Greece out of its own selfish interest to control the EU. Germany could not care less about the Greece and the Greek people. To listen to some of you, Greeks should be grateful to Germany for acting purely on its self centered interest. Pssst. Hey, all you Liberals complaining about the Banksters, Germany IS the Bank. Anyway, all of Europe is a shambles. Nice work on the 'Stability' and 'Unity' you promimsed us, Germans! ::wink wink:: It will be our little secret that this was really just the plan all along.
16:56 February 11, 2012 by TheCrownPrince
@derExDeutsche - you obviously have too much time on your hands developing all these totally braindead theories of yours. Go and read some proper newspapers (the thick ones with few pictures) and stop reading all those conspiracy sites on the net.
16:57 February 11, 2012 by mos101392
Unbelievable-I didn't even read the the reviews. As a retired American soldier living in Germany I thought the NAZI issue was in the past. I can see now when someone has to "REACH". they use the NAZI excuse for their own aims. I have a son who is half German and half American and I am upset to my stomach when I hear someone using the NAZI's as an excuse for their own interest and self made problems. Acknowledge your own shortcomings and correct them!!! Let the past...be the past...and move forward and don't look for an excuse for you own inability to fix your own problem! If you don't agree, then don' be afraid to respond!
16:58 February 11, 2012 by ChrisRea
'But newspapers ... note that the Germans are blaming the Greek populace as a whole and not its politicians for the financial difficulties.'

Right, so the Greek populace is innocent? It was only their politicians that practiced tax evasion? I suppose it was also only the Greek politicians that elected themselves, right? The Greek populace probably voted only the honest candidates, but the votes were not enough, isn't it so? What did the Greek populace do against Konstantinos Simitis, the prime minister that falsified the figures about the public finance? Did they riot against his refusal to accountability and transparency in public finances? Indeed, nothing to blame on the Greek populace.

If Greece is to recover, the average Kostas has to change to the better. Just like Germans changed after the Nazi Germany, if we are to bring them into discussion (as the Greek press suggests).
17:05 February 11, 2012 by derExDeutsche


Has some truth to it doesn't it???
17:31 February 11, 2012 by Englishted

I agree that the German government is thankfully nowhere near the Nazis.

The only and a fair comparison with the actions the Nazis did take in Europe is the imposing of a unelected leader and the removal of the elected one.

The take over of the running of the countries finances and the implied threats(death in the Nazis case) if policies in favour in Berlin are not followed .

The Greeks are using a unfair comparison but since the fall of communism and only the Nazis before that in living memory have one people (government ) sort to usurp the democratically elected government of another sovereign European nation.
17:38 February 11, 2012 by TheCrownPrince
@Englishted - When exactly forced Germany the former greek Prime Minister (Papandreou) out of office? Sure, there was heavy criticism because of his referendum-proposal, but in the end he stepped back voluntarily after talks about forming a new government failed. He could still be sitting on his chair in Athens even now.
17:59 February 11, 2012 by derExDeutsche

Haha. I read the WSJ. Not the Soros Prop In-Color Pictures and Word games NYT.

History will tell, homey.
18:04 February 11, 2012 by 1TruthTeller
I think that there are many things happening here on different levels. Firstly, pretty much all stereotypes have an element of truth to them, obviously exaggerated to make a point. However, it is obvious that Greece was never a good candidate for Euro entry, and especially in light of the fact that the parameters for maintaining membership were not enforced. (This is true of other countries too, not only Greece. The irony is that the strict rules that Germany insisted upon were first broken by Germany itself. ) The extremely painful structural reforms made to the German economy in the early 1990's never happened in Greece, (or Japan for that matter, another country headed to its third lost decade), and now that delay is more painful, because of the unsupervised accumulation of non-performing debt. While the German (and other) tourists who happily sang, drank ouzo, danced with other men and threw plates over the past 20-odd years enjoyed their time in Greece, it is only now that they, and the Greeks themselves, have woken up with the inevitable debt hangover from the party the decades before. And so began the finger pointing.

I can't understand why there isn't a step-sideways mechanism to allow Greece, or other similar countries, to use the Euro as we once used the preceding ECU, as an exchange mechanism, while allowing the country to revert to the previous national currency and the self-determination of its own financial policy until it can re-join. It's the outside rule people object to, hence the anti-German feeling. Surely we can find a more creative solution than what amounts to an occupation, financial or otherwise? But then we're talking about rule by bureaucrats......
18:24 February 11, 2012 by The Man
@theCrownPrince. There is some truth in Papandreou being forced out of office - not by Germany alone but as soon as he threatened to hold a referendum he was finished. The EU abhors referenda and had Greece been allowed to hold one the EU house of cards would have been threatened. So , heavy EU pressure was brought to bear on him and those with whom he thought he might form a new government, let alone the fact that there would be no more bailout money, and so he was finished.

So far as anti-Germany feeling goes in Greece, it is but one way the people can vent their feelings; their politicians got them into bed with the EU under false pretences and, sadly, aided and abetted by Germany and France, who both knew that Greece failed on all counts to qualify to join the Euro but ignored that in the drive to drag Greece into the Euro. And that was where all this started, the EU has brought this upon itself through breaking the Treaty fiscal regulations and now the peoples of Greece, Italy, Portugal and Spain must pay for it.

Oh, of course, here in the busted UK we, too, will have to pay by giving the EU and the IMF more money which we will first have to borrow in order to do so.
18:32 February 11, 2012 by SonOfSparta
It was the German Focus Magazine with its cover of Venus de Milo, that launched the first silo and began the negative racist comments against the Greek people in the press. Also if we take a page out of history no one just starts 'hating' another group unless of course there is some truth to the stereotype. If the Germans as a whole consider the Greeks laid back as a society so be it. But you can't except people like myself whose family (grandparents and parents) were victims of the Nazis during WWII to simply forget the past. Yeah tough economics bring out the worst in people, as it did after WWI when hyperinflation in Germany led to alienation and acceptance of an extreme right wing ideology. What do you think will/is happening in Greece as a direct result of the German government's position regarding the debit crisis? Imagine if your salaries as pensioners were cut by one third, you try and survive off 600 euros a month! The answer is not name calling, but rather governments working together as equals not being dictated to by one bully nation.
18:54 February 11, 2012 by raandy
@Englishted ,Yes they did exceed the debt to GDP, but they also got a waiver and paid their debts ,no defaults here at least not yet. I am not waving the German flag here only trying to call a spade a spade, but thanks for taken interest in my post.
19:23 February 11, 2012 by ChrisRea
@ SonOfSparta

'But you can't except people like myself whose family (grandparents and parents) were victims of the Nazis during WWII to simply forget the past. ' - Of course not. But is it unreasonable to expect Greeks to admit that there is no connection between Nazis and what is happening now in Greece? Why do they blame others for what is their fault?

'What do you think will/is happening in Greece as a direct result of the German government's position regarding the debit crisis?' - Hopefully a change in mentality, so that taxes are collected, public finances are managed transparently and politicians are held responsible for their deeds.

'Imagine if your salaries as pensioners were cut by one third, you try and survive off 600 euros a month!' - Well, pensioners from another Balkan country managed with much less than that. I am talking about Romania, which thanks to the austerity measures managed to keep their public debt at around 20% of GDP.

'The answer is not name calling,' - That's exactly the point. The article is about anti-German sentiment in Greece. That's not the answer. The Greeks have to be true to themselves and do better. Nobody can save them if they resist change and continue to blame others for their own problems.
20:17 February 11, 2012 by DOZ
Greece should have known that jumping in Bed with the German's is Cultural Suicide. My Mother is German and I won't let a German into my life, home etc. Greece should get out while it can.
20:22 February 11, 2012 by Englishted

Exactly my point ,they got a waiver why ?, according to some reports the European council were going to apply the rules but were threatened with the fact that these two are the biggest payers in the €uro group and the most powerful.

I would happily wave the German flag and do at all football matches when they are not playing England of cause.

As to other commenters saying the president didn't have to go he had little choice pushed or jump ,same can be said of Italy .

It is normal to have a election but as with many things to do with power within the E.U. we will wait,and wait.
20:26 February 11, 2012 by SonOfSparta

You see there are points we can both agree upon, yes we should all reframe from name calling. And as I indicated the reasons are numerous both due to tough economic times as well as retaliation for what the German Focus magazine first started with its cover Venus de Milo. But lets put this aside as we both agree this is not helpful.

'Imagine if your salaries as pensioners were cut by one third, you try and survive off 600 euros a month!' (- Well, pensioners from another Balkan country managed with much less than that. I am talking about Romania, which thanks to the austerity measures managed to keep their public debt at around 20% of GDP.)--- ^^Unfortunately this like comparing Apples to Oranges. When the Euro replaced the drachma priced soared in Greece, however wages did not. Southern European nations with perhaps the exception of northern Italy rely on tourism in large part for their economy as well as agriculture. The high Euro doesn¦#39;t help tourism and also has a negative effect on the selling of agricultural goods.

Europe has really 2 distinct types of economies, manufacturing and industry to the north and primarily agriculture and tourism to the south. Where the Euro stands in terms of its value benefits some nations while having the opposite effect in other nations.

Now can Greece become more transparent, with a better political bureaucracy? Yes, and no one is arguing against wanting that, what we don¦#39;t want is rhetoric from German Chancellor Angela Merkel. Her extreme right wing mentality and unwillingness to listen to other European nations shows her true colours. There is corruption in Greece, but this also exists in Germany. For example companies like Siemens bribing officials in Greece, or how about Germany insisting we buy German manufactured products from them even though they are defective, specifically the case of the submarines sold to our navy by Germany. You see corruption is a 2 way street, I can mention many more examples. At the end of the day both peoples/nations and in fact all of the EU have to decide if the Euro is truly in all our interests, or if we should all go back to our separate ways.
21:47 February 11, 2012 by ChrisRea
@ SonOfSparta

Comparing Greece to Romania is like comparing apples to oranges? Because Greece relies mostly on agriculture and tourism and not on manufacturing? That's exactly my point. Agriculture in Greece contributes 3.3% to its GDP and employs 12 % of the labour force. In Romania the figures are 8.1% of GDP and 29% of the labour force.

By the way, why do you think that a high euro would not favour an agriculture and tourism-based economy, but would help a manufacturing-based economy?

No one in Greece argues against a better dealings of its public finances? Well, it does. That's why the prime minister Konstantinos Simitis (a product of Greek democracy) rejected in 2003 the proposals for better accountability and transparency. To be understood, as he was falsifying the figures. Funny thing is that the Greeks did nothing against him after he was not in the office anymore.

Corruption is everywhere just like prostitution is everywhere. What is different is the level of corruption. Comparing the level of corruption in Germany to the corruption in Greece might give you an idea why the two economies are where they are.

So, getting back to the current article, I would like to see Greeks slaming the Greek press for what it does (blaming the Germans instead of actually doing something to improve tax collection and transparency).
22:25 February 11, 2012 by Nemesis
The Greeks don't pay there taxes.

The Greeks don't collect there taxes from the politicians down to the lowest workers.

The Greeks refuse to deal with there corruption in both government and soceity in general.

The Germans have sent money through the EU to Greece since it joined the EU to build various projects, but the Greeks put most of that money in there back pocket instead of building up there country.

The Greeks borrowed more money every year than they collected in tax. The Greeks have lived on debt for decades.

Now Greece has reached the point where no one will give them any more credit as they are unable to pay there debts and refuse to pay there debts.

Now the Greeks who refuse to live within there means are calling the Germans Nazi's for not loaning them more money to live the high life.

The Germans should call there bluff and call in all the debts.

Also the Germans should demand that if the Greeks don't start living within there means that Greece should be removed from the Euro, EU and Schengen.
22:44 February 11, 2012 by wxman
The Greeks cannot seem to come to grips with the fact that their lazy shiftless lifestyle has finally come to an end. Time for them to get back to work for a living.
00:08 February 12, 2012 by SonOfSparta

You cannot compare Romania to Greece because there is a drastic difference in the cost of living in these 2 nations. What you can buy with 1 Euro in Romania is not the same with what you can buy with 1 Euro in Greece. You think with this new austerity measure of cutting minimum wages, cutting pensions, cutting social services and increasing taxes all at the same time will lead to economic stability in Greece?

Also to answer your response to my statement:

What do you think will/is happening in Greece as a direct result of the German government's position regarding the debit crisis?.......{ Hopefully a change in mentality, so that taxes are collected, public finances are managed transparently and politicians are held responsible for their deeds.}

^^ No what I was getting to, and if Germany 20th Century history serves as an example, desperate people do desperate things. No one is arguing against reform, but not reform at any price. Push the Greek people too far (or any people for that matter) and its citizens and government will reject these austerity measures, bankruptcy for Greece will in turn create great havoc to the euro and the German and European economy. Other nations like Portugal, Spain and so forth may say screw this Euro nonsense, as we don't want to be dictated to by Germany like the Greeks today. Its more trouble than its worth. This could create a domino effect and blow up in Merkel's face. So I suggest more carrot and less stick if we all want a deal.
01:12 February 12, 2012 by Navigator_B
There has been a lot of criticism of Greece for being a careless borrower, but most of it ignores the fact that for every borrower there has to be a lender who chooses to make a loan.

On the one side, it's hard for Greece (the country that invented the word democracy) to avoid a lot of the blame for the borrowing by the previous government that it elected. 

On the other side, a large part of the money that Greece borrowed originated in Germany and was lent by German banks, like Commerzbank which the German government bailed out. Nobody forced those banks to lend that money and they should have known that Greece was incapable of paying it back. They hire plenty of experts who should have been able to figure out that sort of thing.

So anyone who attacks Greece should attack the German banks and financial institutions just as much.
03:09 February 12, 2012 by ProgandaLady
First they came for the Greeks, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Greek.

Then they came for the Portuguese, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't Portuguese.

Then they came for the Italians, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't Italian.

Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
09:55 February 12, 2012 by raandy
Englishted. The Greek debt to GDP ratio for Greece is 142.8%. The Greeks need 15 billion by March to pay off an installment . All those institutions that are holding Greek bonds will have to take a 70% write off.

As far as germany's reason for a wavier could be "you can't make an omelet with out breaking a few eggs"

No I have no desire to wave the German flag anywhere or anytime.
10:17 February 12, 2012 by The truth hurts
As a Greek Australian, I am disgusted with the Greek politicians and the Greek people.

They kicked out the king claiming he was wasting taxpayers money and installed PASOK Andreas Papandraeu who started the destruction of Greece. Papandraeu with his sonl paid bribes to the communist party and unions to get thier support in parliment. The Greek people at election time were the perfect examples of greed...politicians promising 10% wage rises, hairdressers allowed to retire on full pension at age 40, and so on. Did anyone ask how these promises were going to be funded? No...who cares was the attitude. Now the good old days are over and the Greeks are looking to blame someone. Well, I have a message to the Greek people, YOU are responsible for what has happened. YOU tolerated politicians raiding the Greek currency reserves to pay bribes. YOU were responsible for not paying taxes. YOU have destroyed the country and humiliated the nation on the world stage. And now, YOU have the audacity to blame your problems on the Germans, the Jews, the Americans in fact everybody except yourselves. I hate the Greeks for what they have done to my beloved country.
12:10 February 12, 2012 by kaspy
Its sad the corrupted ex-greek government led to this crisis as money was swindled. Merkel has been trying her best to prevent the eurozone collapse despite

many enemies against her support for Greece.Merkel cannot take responsibility for what is happening in Greece and its strange that Greek newspaper portrayed her in Nazi uniform.Shame they don't realise who they should support or not.But it will be better if Greece exits the Euro since the can't sign any more austerity measures to convince the ECB for second bailout.Time to look towards chinese and Russians for financial help.
12:41 February 12, 2012 by TheCrownPrince
Those who believe that future greek governments could or would finally carry out the necessary reforms do simply not understand Greece. Future greek governments will fail, too, because the greek structures (not "the Greeks") are what they are: the administration is incompetent and corrupt, and the politicians are not able to form a broad consensus for the things that have to be done; even now - with all facts on the table - some insane greek politicians try to blame all others for their mess, especially the Germans. Let's face it, Greece is a deeply dysfunctional society, a failed state in Europe. A hopeless case.
14:44 February 12, 2012 by Englishted

Nicely put.

A new twist on a sad but true saying.
14:54 February 12, 2012 by Ultima Thule
For almost 50 years after 1950, Europeanisation did bring us all a bit closer in all kinds of ways.

However, in the last ten years since the Euro was created, Europe has been pulling us apart, enriching the Franco-German centre and impoverishing the marginal countries.

Unless, this is checked quickly, this will inevitably lead to angry, populist leaders who will destroy us all. The current drive for more control from the centre will just inflame people in the marginal lands even more.
16:56 February 12, 2012 by Sastry.M
"Until money separates us two" was the caption of a German film which I vaguely remember.Money is the creation of human mind with arbitrarily attributed transactional values but humanism is the real concern that binds all humanity with love beyond blame and shame.
23:08 February 12, 2012 by ChrisRea
@ SonOfSparta #34

'What you can buy with 1 Euro in Romania is not the same with what you can buy with 1 Euro in Greece.' - You are right, in Romania 1 euro gets you less than it gets you in Greece. The purchasing power in Romania is significantly lower than in Greece. This is actually what makes it even more admirable that Romanians, even if they had a low living standard, adopted austerity measures which made their life more difficult for the moment, but gave perspectives for the future. Why cannot Greeks do the same?

Greeks were already given the carrot, but this did not work. Maybe it is a good time to try the stick.

An indication that they finally move in the right direction will be when they will stop blaming others and start changing themselves for the better. Unfortunately, as we see from this article and from your comments, the time has not come yet.
08:11 February 13, 2012 by wood artist
I'm not certain, but this may be the first time I've seen Godwin's Law applied to the Germans. Interesting.

In any case, the Greeks remain wedded to the idea that their problems must have been caused by anyone (everyone?) except the Greeks. I seriously doubt that many "Germans" voted in Greek elections, or served as elected officials in the Greek government, so it seems pretty unlikely that the actions taken by "Germans" created the mess the Greeks now face. Actually, the problem remains that the Greeks AREN'T facing the problems. They continue to deny reality, and seek to blame anyone and everyone else.

It's really time for some adults to step up and admit what everyone else already knows: The Greeks have been choosing to live beyond their means, and now those bills are coming due. They don't like that. I can understand their feelings, but have a hard time finding a lot of sympathy for them. Time to pay the piper, even if he originally came from Hamelin.

12:00 February 14, 2012 by christopheuk25
The Greeks hatred is not just confined to the Germans ,but also the quisling French and who the hell can blame them.

They have been deliberately villied in the EU press to make them look like thieving parasitical sh## a well used propaganda tactic(Germans knew how to use these tactics to there full advantage Goebbels springs to mind)

I personally, and i know others also who believe this is intended to make them look like the sick man of Europe and will meekly accept every abuse directed at them.

Who will be the next, Portugal? no they have already been dealt more subtley by the knife in the back Barrusso,Who then, Ireland no they too have been shafted (they were that stup[id they got a vote twice and still could not see the deciet oozing from Brussels?Spain,Italy take your pick they are being subjugated one by one by corrupt politicians and unelected EU commisioners.

The 3rd War is slowly coming and be sure it will come.

Who to blame for the horror unfolding in Europe only one group.?Politicians
10:58 February 17, 2012 by HBJager
As the children watch the puppet show, booing the "NAZIS", the puppet masters steal their lunch money.
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