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Westerwelle makes surprise trip to Libya

The Local · 13 Jun 2011, 19:33

Published: 13 Jun 2011 12:51 GMT+02:00
Updated: 13 Jun 2011 19:33 GMT+02:00

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The trip was a brief detour on Westerwelle's planned trip to Israel. Stopping in Malta on Monday morning, the foreign minister changed planes and headed to a military base outside Benghazi, where the Libyan opposition leadership, the National Transitional Council, is based.

During the symbolically-charged visit, Westerwelle opened the German liaison office, where two German diplomats have been working to strengthen ties with the Libyan rebels.

Germany now recognized the rebel council as the Berlin's partner for dealings in Libya, Westerwelle said.

"The NTC is the legitimate representative of the Libyan people," Westerwelle told reporters after meeting council officials, including the rebel "foreign minister" Ali al-Essawi.

"We want a free Libya, in peace and democracy without (Muammar) Qaddafi," he said in the rebels' eastern bastion of Benghazi, Libya's second city.

Germany becomes the 13th nation to recognize the NTC as "sole legitimate representative," after Australia, Britain, France, Gambia, Italy, Jordan,

Malta, Qatar, Senegal, Spain, the United Arab Emirates and the United States.

"We welcome Germany's recognition, which will definitely boost international support for the Libyan revolt," NTC chairman Mustafa Mohamed Abdel Jalil told a joint news conference with Jordanian Foreign Minister Nasser Judeh in Amman.

Development Minister Dirk Niebel accompanied Westerwelle on the three-hour visit, which is the first by any member of the German government to the rebel-controlled area.

Westerwelle's visit is meant to signal that Germany is committed to supporting a new, post-Qaddafi Libya, despite its abstention from a United Nations vote on military intervention in the country.

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Westerwelle's plane also carried humanitarian aid for the people of Benghazi.

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18:10 June 13, 2011 by Jack Kerouac
He's had a busy year!
19:29 June 13, 2011 by Expat IV
How nice that Westerwelle has chosen to appear in Libya at an airbase secured by the Libyan rebels, French, Brits and Americans now that the guys with balls have done the dirty work. I'm sure the Libyans are grateful for his visit.
20:36 June 13, 2011 by Major B
Yep Expat IV. See your point.

Well he brought some humanitarian aid.

Oh. the secret part of that visit, or others, are arms exports? bullets? rifles. antin-tank weapons? rocket launched grenades?

I know, I know "you're going to far Major B".
20:58 June 13, 2011 by whpmgr
Someone has to send in the bullets. I wonder who these rebels are, what they really will do when/if they take control and how much we are going to regret anything they do.
22:21 June 13, 2011 by moorekwesi
seems there hasn't been lots learnt.The ousted tribe will finally become the next group of terrorists the world will witness.

The next decades awaits us.
23:27 June 13, 2011 by HANNIBAL-BARCA
Germany¦#39;s superbug is weaponized with Bubonic Plague DNA

¦quot;On Tuesday [May 31], the German newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung reported that [leading German E. coli researcher Helge] Karch had discovered that the O104:H4 bacteria responsible for the current outbreak is a so-called chimera that contains genetic materia from various E. coli bacteria. It also contains DNA sequences from plague bacteria, which makes it particularly pathogenic.¦quot;


After the killer cucumber salad, Germany has got the message and Merkel has decided to toe the xiomurkan line not only on Libya but also continue with non-recognition of the rights of the Palestinian people as the xionist rump entity continues to wreak havoc in the ME.


There can never be peace as long as ignorance is dominant.
01:21 June 14, 2011 by whpmgr
Hannibal: What world are you from, and what are you saying? how is this related to the trip to Libya?

Germany should do as it sees fit to do based on its own interests. That is fine. To link the E-coli problems with this story is weird to say the least.
03:09 June 14, 2011 by pepsionice
Actually, it was so secret....that Westy himself didn't know about the trip until he got off the plane. Frau Merkel just figured he ought to be earning his salary.....the hard way. Later, Westy commented that it was a nifty trick....and he wouldn't get onboard any military aircraft again.

Sarcasm off//
06:46 June 14, 2011 by harcourt
Pepsionice : You're probably right, look how he is dressed. W. must have thought " Hallo this doesn't look like Tel Aviv I thought I was going to an embassy reception " !!
09:04 June 14, 2011 by HANNIBAL-BARCA
@whpmgr, that you can't see the forest for the trees is apparent by your myopic insistence on linear relationships to explain the world around you.

for you and your ilk it is perfectly fine that the laws which women and men have gave blood for so that their decendants may live in a civil society have been torn assunder by the very government(s) entrusted to enforce them.

This forum simply doesn't permit a proper treatment of this topic to begin to do the subject justice. Nevertheless I understand that you would rather see the current amoral unjust Western bullied status quo remain in place it is, however, like all things coming to an end.

So continue with your childish superficial jokes if you must very easy to do behind a computer screen not so unlike commanding a drone to kill innocent civilians in a sovereign nation which has not harmed anyone else.

You asked what world am I from. I'm from a place where if you don't have the steel to look another man in the eyes and tell him why he's about to die at your hand then you are worse than a coward. I'm from a place where truth and just measurement are law. While I realize these things are alien to you, since you asked...
00:39 June 15, 2011 by whpmgr
Hannibal: I agree, that this forum does not allow for a proper treatment or exchange of honest and open comment. I spent a great many years, 21 wearing a uniform. War is not personal at the beginning. I am told to kill a bunch of people, and , in a volunteer military, I do as I am told unless what is see is illegal according the the laws of my land. As such, a bunch of cowards that wear a head scarf but do not have a country, and use schools, mosques, and illegal locations from which to attack from are illegal combatants. They are the lowest of the low, and worthy of any death possible.

I hate -at times some things my country does. I love my country and try to change things with my vote. I will not raise up, form an army and then go out and try to make my will be that of others. If I do not represent a country, I am an illegal combatant. I am not entitled to the Geneva convention and if a drone kills me, how else can I be gotten to since I do not represent any particular country.

I am not a coward. If I shoot soemone, I do it from a safe position so that I can shoot others and return to my family. If you are fool enough, and stupid enough to stand in front of me to shoot me, and I see you and shoot you, sorry, war is that way. If my general says take a hill, I do not question, at that moment, the taking of the hill. I do it or die trying and hope soemone with integrity will later review if it were the right decision or not.

The biggest problem with this world is there are too many people who care so much about others, they forget that the others dont care about them and would not mind if my country fades away. I love my USA. I know it ain't perfect, but it is the best alternative to what else is in this world. I teach and practice Karate. I have used my hands to kill and did it with extreme prejudice. Me or him/them...it wasnt personal at first, but when it was my life or theirs, it was I won, they lost, I am here to disagree with you. I am in Los Angeles, no idea where you are. If you were in front of me I would tell you what I am saying here.

You have a right to an opinion, I do too- God gave me that right through the US Constitution. I have been all over this world, Africa, North and South America, Europe and Asia. I have fought against and helped fight against tyranny. The US is not a tyranny, but soem see us as that- perspective.
09:27 June 15, 2011 by HANNIBAL-BARCA
whpmgr; you have taken in oath to protect the Contstitution of the U.S.A. against all enemies both foreign and domestic. You are in violation of that oath. While many lifetimes of debate have been given over the matter of subjective vs. objective from a our limited human perspective, I nevertheless contend that it is man's own lack of rigour which prohibits him from differencing the two in many though not all critical matters.

You have touched on many of those matters, however, I will not try to address those many faults at this time, save one.

Let us first be clear as to what a tyranny is at least according to the dictionary of the American Language.

arbitrary or unrestrained exercise of power; despotic abuse of authority.


the government or rule of a tyrant or absolute ruler.


a state ruled by a tyrant or absolute ruler.

While President Obama's amoral and illegal war against Lybia is only the latest official act of U.S. and European tyranny, the fact of the matter is the West has been a terror on this earth for the last 600 years. Though I could easily exercise greater perspective against Eurasia.

Nevertheless, Obama's latest appointee openly supports the President's utilization of tyrannic power in what he speciously defines as protection of American interest. Stating that the President need not seek any approval to conduct such unequivically warsome actions.

Yet every president of the last 100 years has committed acts in clear violation of the U.S. Constitution. They have done so largely with impunity save those who got on the wrong side of the fence of those who excercise the true power globally.

Your claimed experience isn't verifiable from my perspective, however, my factual report of the crimes of the U.S.A. and West are easily verifiable for those who care to look.

Personally I view you as an unfortunate soul incapable of thinking independently much less critically. Further though you claim love and loyalty to the U.S.A., you remain willfully ignorant of its history including the Constitution has meant by the so called Founding Fathers before its rape by those lusting for power.

In short, the U.S.A. is the greatest purveyor of terror and you serve as a pawn. Though you may not understand since your not within my eyesight I have not the time to make my point.
18:01 June 15, 2011 by Major B
@ whmpgr

hang in there buddy. like you said, the U.S. isn't perfect, so far from it, but as history shows us, we don't have to take the blame for systems and legacies that are happenning around the world that were set up long before the U.S. was even a world power. Luckily we have knowledge and facts to back us up

@ Hannibal-Barca

"there can never be peace as long as ignorance is dominant"

So adequate a quote. Your own quote in a nutshell wraps up the looney tune arguments you spew forth. Just a spout spewing forth uncontrollaby.

The Europeans, especially Sarkozy, pushed strongly for intervention but you nevertheless unjustifiably and inaccurately blame it on Obama. Your Vietnam era slogans don't work in this instance and aren't you tired of tirade after tirade, decade after decade?

You talk about Western dominance and intervention for the last 600 years, then blame it on the U.S., when it wasn't even a country 600 years ago.

You say tyranny in the U.S. Now, many of us felt the last U.S. administration was approaching that(even then it was a stretch) but in times of war the U.S. has always made adjustments, as provided forth in OUR, yes OUR, consitution.

Now, now you are getting somewhere when you say 600 years of Western tyranny. But you'll gloss over Mongol tyranny. You'll omit Ottoman tyranny. Oh no, Allah forbid, you'll completely ignore Arab tyrrany when it took over Jerusalem. Oh no, the Japanese were kind to the Koreans and Manchurians. Stalin was a Saint. Oh, great leap forward in China, starve millions of people to death, but that isn't tyranny. There have been no despots in African since colonialism ended and Robert Mugabe is doing a fine job in Zimbabwe. See what happens when you zealously sit in in the "blame USA for everything bandwagon"?

Sanity, balance and perspective are lost paving the way for coonspiracy upon conspiracy. And I speak from the perspective oof citizens who have seen more than their "fair share" of unfairness and inequities.

but, you gotta "blame someone", right?

10:37 June 16, 2011 by HANNIBAL-BARCA
@major b

clearly you have placed a highly subjective reading and interpretation into my writing and resultingly made a erroneous response!

this is why I honestly don't like to debate on these forums because I'm not even permitted to give a proper response to the ignorant statements made on this forum as all response are limited in length.

nevertheless, I didn't blame the situation in Lybia 100% on Obama, I said the West or more specifically Western Europe. And while I did expose the tyranny of the West during the last 600 years I also mentioned equal application against Eurasia extending even further! Nor did I specifically mention the U.S. as being responsible for the tyranny of the last 600 years, again I said the West!

Your half-ass arguements only further proves my statements concerning subjective vs. objective. While I made some rather objective historical statements you subjectively gave a half-ass reading to them and derived a completely b.s. conclusion.

You are the one lacking sanity and balence when you can't even read with comprehension to make a sensible arguement yet exercise no restraint in revealing your ignorance. I see why you run to the aid of your equally ignorant partner as you both seek to defend the indefensible.

Please learn how to read before commenting on what I write.
17:00 June 16, 2011 by Major B
@ Hannibal-Barca

See. Just a spout pouring out blather after blather. Half of your comments are attacks at others, exposing an extreme sensitivity and defensiveness. You're right, your comments are not able to treat topics sensibly or with any real depth because half of what you say is attacking or being defensive. That is what is "half-assed".

The anti-Western bias in your comments speak for themselves.

Tone down and contribute something to this forum or just go somewhere else.

Others ignore you cause they think you're crazy but let's give you a chance to trully express your brilliance. Let's stick with this article.

1. What was the point of the ecoli comment in post number 6? There are other articles in this paper where although that comment is still inappropriate, at least it would be in the right place.

2. There you go with the "Zionist rump state" and non-Palestinian recognition angle. O.K. But a comment on that is more appropriate on the article where Westerwelle visited Israel. Why here?

3. What do you make of Westerwelle's quick detour to visit Libya? Secret? or do you think this was a "schedule adjustment", made after the Chancellor's visit to the U.S. last week and resulting discussions.

4. Given that the situation Libya will be wild for a while, is there a peacekeeping role for Germany to help stabilise things?

Will await and watch for the quality of your responses.

Not that you have to prove anything though. Just seeing if you can resist the urge to Tora Tora Tora!!!
05:27 June 18, 2011 by HANNIBAL-BARCA
@major b

I see you are proud of lies and willing to continue lying, cheating and stealing to the very end. So be it...
16:36 June 22, 2011 by Major B
@ Hannibal-Barca

No indeed sir. No lies. That is one resaon I could never be in politics or work for a government. Being an involved ciitizen, as allowed by the consititution of my country, gives me the opportunity to live with thruth, honor and dignity.

Am also proud that I never cheat or steal.

Now, if you made those points about my nation in the past or even presently, I would have to pass on commenting. I don't agree with much of what it does and certainly not in the past.

but am always willing to learn and admit when I am inaccurate or wrong. No lies though. You didn't try to answer any questions or back up the points I brought out about your previous comments though.
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