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Insurance firm held sex party for sales reps

The Local · 19 May 2011, 08:07

Published: 19 May 2011 08:07 GMT+02:00

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The ‘incentive’ trip for the most successful sales reps at Hamburg Mannheimer took place in Budapest in June 2007, according to a couple of participants who have spoken to business daily Handelsblatt.

They described how the historical Gellert thermal baths was turned into an open air brothel for the reps – who were presumably all men and assumed to be heterosexual.

“I and the other participants were searched at the entrance, like the security checks at the airport,” said one, who added that it was made clear that it was strictly forbidden to take pictures or videos.

A second participant said that once everyone was settled, “The ladies came in and showed us what they had. It was clear to everyone taking part that they were prostitutes.”

A spokeswoman for Ergo, which now owns the Hamburg Mannheimer, confirmed the basics. “It is correct that in June 2007 there was an incentive trip to Budapest. Our research has revealed that around 20 prostitutes were present at an evening even during this trip.”

“The ladies wore red and yellow wrist bands. One group were there as hostesses, and the others were to fulfill any and every desire,” said one participant.

“There were also ladies with white wrist bands. They were reserved for the board and the very best salesmen.”

Four-poster beds were set up on either sides of the thermal baths, he said. “Anyone could go to one of the beds with one of the ladies and do what he wanted. The ladies were marked with stamps on their forearms after each such meeting. So it was recorded how often each lady frequented.”

Ergo said it regretted the case, which it described as “a serious violation of the rules of the company,” which would not be tolerated.

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“The managers concerned and the board member responsible no longer work for us,” a statement released to the Handelsblatt said.

But the paper said that participants, whose statements were taken on oath, said that many of the general reps and managers who were at the party still worked for the firm.

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08:54 May 19, 2011 by catjones
I'm confused. Which ones are the whores?
08:56 May 19, 2011 by auniquecorn
Thats why insurance is so dam exspensive.

They´would proabaly make alot more sales if they invited the customers.
08:59 May 19, 2011 by MfromUSA
F!!*#! PIGS!

Oh Yeah..........let's just jump on a bed next to the pool and screw our brains out......all this while providing a free porn flick for our co-workers.

How disgusting and adolescent can these pigs get????

if any of these men are married their wife aught to kick their worthless ass out and slam the door.

That's what I would expect to happen at my house!
09:06 May 19, 2011 by delvek
Pretty sad, I wonder what those guys were thinking, especially if they are married with children who depend on them as a husband and father. Pretty sad.
09:20 May 19, 2011 by ame64
What is wrong with these people.

I can only hope that their customers change insurances.

Who could have come up with such an idea? and especially present it to the boss?

This kind of thing probably happens more often.
09:23 May 19, 2011 by moistvelvet
Well if their wives put in the effort and fulfilled the marriage then their men wouldn't need to find an alternative attractions.

But as a team building/bonding exercise I think this is going too far, having a work colleague with that sort of information to be used against you is too risky and ultimately not good for the work environment.
09:32 May 19, 2011 by Weevil
This sounds brilliant !!! I wish my company would do something like this.
09:35 May 19, 2011 by ame64
@moistvelvet: YEP you are 100% right on both comments !!
09:38 May 19, 2011 by moistvelvet
It wouldn't happen in my place, my colleagues are just a bunch of w*#$*!% :-p
09:42 May 19, 2011 by adipk
on one side against the humanity and other side uniqueness. I believe this is not the good way to motivate your sale team. disgusting
09:47 May 19, 2011 by moistvelvet
I agree adipk, however it would get their butts moving! :-o
11:28 May 19, 2011 by Simon_Kellett
moistvelvet> Well if their wives put in the effort and fulfilled the marriage then their men wouldn't need to find an alternative attractions.

Blimey: did you miss out on the 20th century?
11:47 May 19, 2011 by moistvelvet
If the restaurant provides poor service you eat elsewhere, it's pretty simple Simon
12:48 May 19, 2011 by delvek
Its called honor, respect and integrity. You know the words that actually take work to perform. As a man, I find these actions are actions of boys, pathetic.

Your reap in life what you sow.
12:48 May 19, 2011 by William Thirteen
i've been to the Gellert on numerous occasions, though none of my trips were quite as eventful as this. Since no crimes were committed (prostitution being legal in Hungary) it seems to be just a violation of company policy and the norms of good taste but, given we are talking about sales drones - and insurance sales drones at that, this should come as no surprise.

Frankly, there are few places i would want to visit less with any of my coworkers than a spa/brothel.
14:28 May 19, 2011 by moistvelvet
@delvek, you are confusing expectations from society with basic human behaviour, if man is hungry he needs to eat. You can dress it up anyway you like but the fact is all men have this natural instinct and to make out you've never looked at women in anything other than an hounourable and respectful way then I suggest you stop kidding yourself, but I understand that some men here may have their wives looking over their shoulder.
14:29 May 19, 2011 by appocalypto
They have come a long way from their ancestors

50 years back they were calling bunch of women in gas chambers :D

(just joking.... no need to argue )
14:52 May 19, 2011 by delvek
@ velvet

You can package it any way you want. Whether high or low, the thought to be with another woman never was a factor. All this with my wife being very far from over my shoulder, why would I do something to hurt my best friend?

Grandma always said there are two types of people in the world, you and I constitute those two ...
15:02 May 19, 2011 by moistvelvet
Obviously telling your "best friend" about fulfilling your natural human instinct would be both cruel and stupid. But going back to my original point, your best friend wouldn't let you go hungry, it takes two to tango.

You say you have never thought about going with another woman, no doubt true in the way you mean, but I reckon you are not being entirely true in saying that such a "thought" has never ever entered your mind whilst being with your wife/best friend. It's nothing to be ashamed of, it is natural behaviour for both men and women.
15:14 May 19, 2011 by delvek
If you saying have I thought of other women, absolutely, while "with" my wife, cant remember a time.

My "best friend" is interested in satisfying as I am her. Even in the toughest of months, been married for a long time, I never had the urge to lead me to be with another woman.

I am not sure how I could look her in the face or my children and feel comfortable that I am what they expect me to be.
16:12 May 19, 2011 by catjones
For those who see no harm or rationalize this behavior would anyone object to a publicized name list of the participants....male and female?
16:20 May 19, 2011 by ame64
I bet a lot of men have some explaining to do when they get home today.
16:52 May 19, 2011 by Gretl
Moistvelvet - I find the blame-shifting of male behavior to something women did or did not do typical of men raised with an Abrahamic religion, and immature.

Only you can be accountable for your decisions and actions. Nobody makes you do anything; you always have a choice whether it is palatable or not.
18:07 May 19, 2011 by Loth
And now they all have aids?
18:10 May 19, 2011 by Jack Kerouac
Wow. How...efficient. Typical Germans, color-coding and stamping their whores! Obviously this is a ghastly and immoral situation for employess to engage in, and will hurt the company's image irrevocably. What were the CEO's and the board thinking?
21:26 May 19, 2011 by wxman
"...a sex party for its 100 best representatives, where around 20 prostitutes were on hand." Hmmm. Assuming everybody wanted "some" and the women were shared equally, that would mean 20 of these guys got the fifth go-around. Yuck!
21:30 May 19, 2011 by finanzdoktor
@ Gretl: Please do not associate all of us who are born-again Christians or of the Abrahamic (as you put it) faith with the "blame-shifting of male behavior" that you were refuting.

Too be honest, your second paragraph was on target. Just a shame you stereotyped as much as the others you were opposing.
01:43 May 20, 2011 by Gretl
Fiinanzdoktor - "Abrahamic" encompasses Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. When your creation mythology starts off blaming women for humanity's separation from a state of grace with your deiety, it isn't a stereotype. However, congratulations on being one of the enlightened!
03:18 May 20, 2011 by stablemate
yes insurance expensive....and party for workers aswell....not really the same sex story as imf leader in new york.....but well we all like to read this stuff...
03:58 May 20, 2011 by MfromUSA

You and Arnold Schwrazen........

I bet you are brothers!!!!!

I find your opinion on this issue disgusting. You remind me of my elder male relatives, you know, those who were born in the stone age! I certainly hope that you do not have daughters, and if you do, perhaps you should check out of the gene pool.
06:13 May 20, 2011 by Johnne

Good one there, you dropped the bitter truth most people would disagree with...Respect!!
10:51 May 20, 2011 by strahlungsamt
I can't believe that a whole office of German men is straight. Every place I've ever been in Germany, on average 60% of the men are gay.

As for the prostitutes, it's Eastern Europe we're talking about. The average salary there is about 100 euros a month for a full time job. Loads of women go into prostitution for the money and how it empowers them. They need the business so the feminists should just shut up.

As for color coding them, I think that's a great idea. Give the top performers the Russian and Czech hotties, the medium performers the West German babes and the losers the Irish whores so they'll learn to do better the next time.

The 20th century is so over.
12:41 May 20, 2011 by michael4096
"..on average 60% of the men are gay.."

Wow! Where have you been?
13:16 May 20, 2011 by delvek
Reading some of these replies, I am amazed at how stupid my fellow humans can be.
18:41 May 20, 2011 by trevor999
100 men and 20 pros? I wonder who was getting the sloppy 5ths....
04:05 May 21, 2011 by DrStrangelove
" 10:51 May 20, 2011 by strahlungsamt

I can't believe that a whole office of German men is straight. Every place I've ever been in Germany, on average 60% of the men are gay."

Well, that would account for the low birth rates ...
15:59 May 21, 2011 by Gretl
" can't believe that a whole office of German men is straight. Every place I've ever been in Germany, on average 60% of the men are gay."

What industry do you work in? That is not my experience.
13:01 May 25, 2011 by supernova
Hungry has a lot to offer the insurance guys... I hate insurance services & sales folks myself. They at some point offer to sell their mothers to you as well to boom up company sales and enjoy such obnoxious luxury..

My Pizza is still not there you Indian boy from call center? I don't see many of them on these forms nowadays...
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