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Lock up leftist May Day troublemakers, conservatives say

The Local · 29 Apr 2011, 11:09

Published: 29 Apr 2011 11:09 GMT+02:00

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The conservative parliamentary group’s spokesman on interior affairs, Hans-Peter Uhl of the Bavarian Christian Social Union, told the Neue Osnabrücker Zeitung that the left-leaning Berlin government was letting left-wing extremists get away with violence unchallenged on the traditional workers’ day.

May 1, or May Day as it is known, has in the past degenerated into battles between activists and police. This year is expected to be particularly volatile because authorities have angered left-wing extremists by clearing out a squat in January.

“Troublemakers known to the police have to be detained as a prevention for an appropriate length of time before May 1,” Uhl said.

Recidivist rioters deserved not freedom of assembly but rather handcuffs and jail, he said.

Uhl accused the Berlin government of letting left-wing extremists thumb their noses at authorities for years.

“Rioting must not become something that’s trivialized as a kind of Berlin folklore,” he said.

The fact that violent extremists were able to carry out their criminal activities unchallenged damaged the image of the nation’s capital and thereby the whole country, he said.

Preventative custody was legally possible in Berlin for up to two days, he said.

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Also the city should toughen the laws to help police dealing with violent crowds. In the southern states of Bavaria and Baden-Württemberg, preventative detention was allowable for up to 14 days.

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12:30 April 29, 2011 by catjones
uh, can we wait until a law is broken?
13:10 April 29, 2011 by taiwanluthiers
Wasn't there a movie with Tom Criuse in it where people were being jailed for "future crime"?
13:15 April 29, 2011 by melbournite
pre-emptive jailings? Why not collective punishments and gulags as well?
14:35 April 29, 2011 by iseedaftpeople
I believe this is highly unconstitutional. You can't just lock up people because they MIGHT cause trouble.

On the other hand... if we could lock up politicians because they might abuse their power, I think that is an idea worth exploring... although that would leave jails up and down the country overcrowded.
14:42 April 29, 2011 by asteriks
preventive arrest is dictatorship. You didn't break the law but you are arrested under presumption that you will do it. Under such excuse, one day, they will keep whole life in prison. Capitalism is in the crisis, brutality of government will be bigger and bigger, they will kill people just to keep their privileged positions.
14:44 April 29, 2011 by beeker
Maybe a law could be passed that would make the usual suspects wear an insignia indicating that they were affiliated with a certain group. Then the government could modify the law to restrict their movements and permit them to live only in certain areas.
15:27 April 29, 2011 by Wobinidan
So in Bavaria and Baden-Wuttemberg you can go to prison for two weeks if the police think you might do something wrong? Wow, that's not so much innocent until proven guilty, as guilty without being given a chance to be innocent.
15:46 April 29, 2011 by michael4096
I assume that you must have first been guilty of something during a previous May-day. A bit like football hooligans not being allowed to travel to away matches.

Can anyone confirm or deny?
16:50 April 29, 2011 by minga

Not any longer in BW.
17:44 April 29, 2011 by iseedaftpeople

even so, there is a world of difference between banning somebody from attending a football game because they are known troublemakers, and locking them up "just in case". As for the anticipated May Day riots, Police can just as well issue a Platzverweis, a measure that is effective in keeping people who want to cause a ruckus out of certain areas... effective, with minimal invasion on their freedom and privacy. But then if they still don't comply, well, in the holding cell they go... but because they have disobeyed concrete police orders, not because they were deemed an undefined threat beforehand. Last I checked, Germany doesn't do pre-crime... yet... and let's keep it that way...

It's sad to see politicians adopting a "lock em up" rhethoric against anyone and anything... but then again, maybe we should just expect that from conservative "law and order" politicians, especially of the CSU persuasion.
18:31 April 29, 2011 by michael4096
@iseedaftpeople - I understand your pov

However, I could also imagine a judge sentencing a hooligan to being: "kept in lock-up for two weeks over the next three May-days instead of 3 solid months in pokey."

Whatever! I'll be enjoying weizen and overcooked sausages around the maibaibaum tomorrow and not marching for peace.
19:16 April 29, 2011 by Flint
Why not just sentence them to real jail time if they break the law?
19:45 April 29, 2011 by karldehm
I really don't understand what all the fuss is about or why these idiots are rioting. Like most extreme left wing extremists, they have no idea what they are doing and are flogging a dead horse.

I can understand demonstrating peacefully for a meaningful cause, but I doubt these mental Pigmy's have a clue what's all about. Since being force to leave their sand box due to age , they have reverted to throwing stones to get attention.

Being stupid is no excuse for breaking the law. I don't think we should lock them up ,but send to the country of their choice and have them fend for themselves without Hartz 4.
20:22 April 29, 2011 by tallady
Nobody other than the anarchists like anarchists but arresting them before any crime or attempted crime is scary to say the least, what will the end result be if this proceeds?
10:31 May 1, 2011 by StoutViking
They're not being locked up "just because", just like people are not being picked up for questioning "just because". If it were Neo-Nazis being picked up before Hitler's birthday, you wouldn't be so disapproving, now would you?

Thing is, police and secret services have long strings of intelligence and information gathering which probably include wiretapping, informats, watchers and so on. To deserve such grotesque intrusion into privacy, they'd probably done something just as grotesque on a previous antifanten demo. I suppose wan't your car had set on fire, and not your shop who's windows were smashed "in the name of anti-establishment / globalisation / save the cucumber".

My best guess is they been put on house arrest after wiretap discovered they were planning a big surprize for us all. Soon enough we'll hear about riots or someone been caught with explosive bricks. Like imported terrorists aren't enough, who needs homegrown?
11:00 May 1, 2011 by FredFinger
Uhl is right, lock 'em up and throw away the key. Violence and mayhem aren't rights and should not be tolerated in the slightest.
16:10 May 1, 2011 by MrBowlocks
It may interest many outraged readers of this article that this behaviour on the part of the authorities is also to be found in England where everybody is so free. Interested parties may like to check out the travails of Charlie Veitch prior to and during the royal wedding in London last week. Fascism is coming to a country near you, and to paraphrase 'FredFinger' and his vacuous contribution, should not be tolarated in the slightest.
05:52 May 2, 2011 by Major-General Sir Binden-Blood
Look at all the hypocritical comments above from left wingers! Of course if we had been talking about right wing thugs coming out to cause trouble on May Day all the above would be screaming " Grab them as soon as they step out side their front doors! Throw them in jail!" But as they are left wing thugs its O.K " Damn Hypocrites!
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