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Westerwelle finds reason to fear Libya mission

The Local · 21 Mar 2011, 15:52

Published: 21 Mar 2011 10:21 GMT+01:00
Updated: 21 Mar 2011 15:52 GMT+01:00

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"It is the responsibility of every country to decide if they'll support a military intervention or not," Westerwelle said on arriving for talks with European Union counterparts on the situation in Libya and across the Arab world.

"We always said we wouldn't send soldiers," he added. "This does not mean we are neutral, this does not mean that we have any sympathy with the dictator (Muammar) Qaddafi.

"(But) we calculated the risks, and when we see that three days after this intervention began, the Arab League has already criticised this intervention, I think we see we had good reasons," he said.

The UN Security Council voted last Thursday to permit "all necessary measures" to impose a no-fly zone, protect civilian areas and impose a ceasefire on Qaddafi’s military.

The UN vote passed 10-0 with five abstentions in the 15-member council. Germany joined permanent members China and Russia, as well as India and Brazil, by abstaining. Westerwelle has since repeatedly had to deny charges Berlin has isolated itself from its closest allies in the European Union and NATO.

Chancellor Angela Merkel on Monday also defended the German stance, saying that despite the abstention, Berlin wanted the military mission spearheaded by the United States, Britain and France to be successful in stopping Qaddafi’s forces.

"We want the resolution to be applied successfully. Germany is contributing in that the government is of course ... allowing the current operation to be coordinated in Stuttgart," Germany, Merkel said.

She also said that Berlin would help the mission by putting German crew members on board AWACS radar aircraft in Afghanistan, where her country has around 5,300 troops.

"In my view the AWACS decision could be made this week in the German parliament," she said.

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German government sources said that NATO had made a request to Germany to this end.

Merkel stressed that Germany had in the past taken part in international missions that the United States and Britain had not participated in, for example in Lebanon and the Democratic Republic of Congo.

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10:38 March 21, 2011 by Major Dude
At least someone is talking sense.
11:24 March 21, 2011 by Wim van Couveren
Westerwelle is indeed making a lot of sense -which is not often the case [!].

The 'stupid-club' of Sarkozy, Cameron and Harper - will have to see how this all unfolds. The uncertainty is very big.

Loser Harper could be facing an election in Canada in months and he hopelessly needs something to increase his popularity. He is seen in Canada generally for what he is - a wind-bag and cunning opportunist so this will back-fire big time.

Sarkosy is using this whole thing for his own low ratings in France - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/20/libya-crisis-nicolas-sarkozy-electoral

Germany definitely made the smart more here.
11:50 March 21, 2011 by Prufrock2010
The only risks "calculated" by Guido and Angela were those they face in the upcoming elections. By abstaining in the Security Council vote, casting Germany's lot with such stalwart defenders of democracy as China and Russia, Westerwelle and Merkel revealed themselves to be spineless and gutless.
12:08 March 21, 2011 by Wim van Couveren

Assuming you are right about Ms Merkel and Westerwelle - you could be right - however that does NOT imply conversely that the action against Libya now going on is anything more than rank opportunism from France/Canada/UK.

Then opportunism NOT to attack other countries is always better than opportunism TO attack other countries.

German foreign policy is not made by a small group - I believe this policy was made because it serves Germany's long-term interests [as now defined by the CDU/CSU and FDP].

Presently it coincides with the correct political stand internationally - as I perceive it to be ­ namely this type of local conflict helps no-one except the large military hard-ware salesmen and is fraught with uncertainty.

Does this mean that they [CDU/CSU + FDP] will again chose the right course again in the future? No it does not.
12:21 March 21, 2011 by ronasch
It is wise to stay out of all wars, but particularly civil wars. This action was taken by the leaders of tired old colonial nations whose time has passed. Had England remained neutral in 1914 Europe would have been united by the end of that year, WWII would not have happened and England might still be a nation of some importance. The USA is still boggged down in previous wars including WWII (why else do they occupy Japan and German) and cannot afford the expense of any wars. The Arabs will ultimately turn on the colonial powers for getting involved in this war. I also wonder why these nations who declared war on Germany twice expect Germany to ever support them.
12:33 March 21, 2011 by Victor Scicluna
Germany has now a quite comfortable seat, if this thing works they can claim, yes we abstained but are clearly for democracy and we asked Gaddafi to step down. If on the other hand things get nasty as unfortunately they always do with any war Westerwelle can be proud of himself and say you see we told you so.

It seems they are trying to balance their act as fine as possible; Merkel being present at the conference on Friday in Paris, supporting the motion, just one day after Germany abstained at the UN.

Now things might get a bit messy, we only need to wait for the first civilians to fall victims to this action and this will not take long since Gaddafi is making sure his people are at his palaces and airports as human shields. His move to arm the common citizens is a very wicked one. If someone gave me some sort of grenade thrower or bazooka I would feel great and powerful if I do not know that a cruise missile can strike me to hell from 500km away.

He wants this exactly and then the press will have it´s day shouting foul. Of course Westerwelle will then be able to say …. You see we were right.

This is not leadership. This is pure politics to sit and watch and take praise either way it goes.
12:56 March 21, 2011 by mhdamro
its sad to see Germany supporting Qaddafi when he is killing his own ppl ... qaddafi thanked Germany for its position in the UN .. and now Germany is on the side of Russia and China against the Europeans and allies ... i guess germany will ALWAYS be the trouble maker in the EU .. and this diplomatic scandal will have a sever long term effect on germany .. it was STUPID decision .. no one was asking Germany to participate militiraly in Libya .. voting for the UN decision doesnt mean that germany must send in troops ...

this Westerwelle dude is just coward .. and merkel is too slow .. just like in the EU financial crisis .... acting too little too late ... EU needs a leader ... and Cameron and Sarkozi are leading europe politically ... Germany will pay for not standing by the allies .. financially and politically ..... mark my words ... Note: the Arab league is with the coalition .. and they now have planes over libya
13:14 March 21, 2011 by steve_glienicke
While i agree with you to an extent mhdamro that Germany's standing in world politics will take a severe beating with that descision, there chances of gaining a perminent place on the security council they have kissed good bye to, in that position it is required to have a strong will to do the right thing and not worry about who it could upset, if as westerwald states above he knew it would upset the arab league, it shows he was more concerned about upsetting them, than the UN security council or local EU allies, and begs the question why? i stated last week, Exports or future Exports are the key reason to this descision, Germany just stabbed it's allies in the back for a few more bucks!

wim van couveren? so you think allowing a dictator to continue killing his own people means germany made the right move? since he has been in power, he has continually not only supported terrorism, he has funded it, provided arms for it, even in recent weeks it has come out he sanctioned the lockerbie bombing, so in my opinion right or wrong, he has got his coming, payback is a bitch and there is only 1 outcome for him, should have done the right thing weeks ago when asked to step down
13:25 March 21, 2011 by Tadil
So with that comment about no vote of confidence... hmmm seems to me now that we are going Germany in the same canoe as the dutch who withdraw their troops for Afganistan.

It shall be named "The Canoe of Cowards" Stay home and eat your schnitzel and get drunk. Let the real men of the world protect your butts.

I think there needs to be a recall vote for that Security Council seat that Germany so humbly accepted with grace and gemini characters. Twin personalities.
13:49 March 21, 2011 by auniquecorn

you hit the nail on the head. these 2 little spineless and gutless (Leaders) have front row seats in the (Canoe of Cowards).
14:02 March 21, 2011 by freechoice
nobody likes war, people dies and suffering ensues, but if the West has moral obligations to stop the further slaughter of innocent civilians in Benghazi b< some narcissistic dictators, some sacrifices must be made.
14:25 March 21, 2011 by hanskarl
This is such a hard call to make. Prufrock makes a good point as for days the European Community was questioning the vapid response from the US. The UN seems to be becoming more of an opportunist hiding under the shadow of arumentum ad misericordium.

Now that the US has finally been able to pin the vacation president to a decision and opted in they are in the same boat. Then again this is the response to decades of human suffering across N. Africa and the Middle East by dictators.

The greatest fear here is the real outcome to the peoples of this area once Al Q and the Muslim Brotherhood role into power. Long term it seems to me in light of previous fallout from other situations Guido and Angela have erred for protectionism of the German state.
15:11 March 21, 2011 by Bishnu
Thanks Mr westerwella , I find you as a very clever and wise politician in Germany. The war is not a solution and especially while attacking into other's country for their internal reason.
15:14 March 21, 2011 by adipk
Good, and go a head Mr. Westerwelle,

Thanks GOD some one is using sense. It doesn't mean that German Govt or atleast me is supporting Qaddafi. He is doing wrong. But dont make more enemies out of some one else's War.
15:43 March 21, 2011 by tallady
My goodness,the Arab league finds faults and Westerwelle finds justification in this to declare Germany was prudent...First you can not establish a no -fly zone with out removing all anti aircraft positions. You could not protect the opposition with out destroying some of Gaddafi's assets .

Secondly what does he think would happen to the opposition,,maybe lets be friends and have no more talk about doing away with the Dictatorship would be Gaddafi's way of dealing with them..I doubt that ,slaughter on a massive scale would be more accurate. These people were led to believe that the UN would help

Germany was in full support early on,but,when things went sour and they began retreating we get the now famous Angela Merkel flip flop.

You can justify this anyway you can ,but bottom line ,Germany is a poor excuse for an ally ,self serving ,and a nobody in world politics.
15:45 March 21, 2011 by steve_glienicke
Thats the way adipk, Bishnu!

Let us all just sit by and watch this mad man kill his own people, or use them as human shields, for god sakes you two he is even taking dead bodies out of morgues and placing them around millitary targets to make it look like the west are killing civilians!!!!

in my opinion he made it every decent human beings war the moment he started to kill his own people, women and children included because he is a power freak who refuses to acknowledge democracy and the wish of the people that he goes,

lets just hope the Brits, americans, french, italians and danish are so accomodating when germany has issues or requires intel on possible terrorists sometime in the future would not surprise me in the slightest if someone forgets by accident to inform german secerity of a possible attack!.....

choose your friends well Mr westerwally! before they stab you in the back, like you just did to them!
15:54 March 21, 2011 by Conan the Librarian
Spineless. If a politician fears criticism, he's in the wrong job.

I do like ronach's comment 'Had England remained neutral in 1914 Europe would have been united by the end of that year, WWII would not have happened and England might still be a nation of some importance'.

In stating that Europe would have been united, does that mean completely under German control through a succession of sovereign states being invaded and then occupied?

Also, he states that 'England might still be a nation of some importance'. Does importance in this context mean that England would still make decisions which have global affect, rather than abstaining in a cowardly and indecisive manner?

Six million Jews were put to death by an Austrian version of Gaddafi many years ago. Thank goodness Great Britain didn't choose to look the other way in 1939.
16:00 March 21, 2011 by steve_glienicke
well put conan, well put.....
16:02 March 21, 2011 by freechoice
may God bless America, UK, France and other UN coalition forces to send light into the darkness of repression in Libya, and liberated those people who are being repressed from a recalcitrant dictator.
16:08 March 21, 2011 by mrblunt
Thanks Germany for not going into this war.
16:28 March 21, 2011 by storymann
Why go to war? when you can garner praise from Gaddafi and get that oil...

The old saying "why buy the cow when the milk is free..Ya Germany,you have a history of being on the wrong side why change now,you may have lost any and all respect but you are selling a lot of autos.
16:55 March 21, 2011 by idiot
> i guess germany will ALWAYS be the trouble maker in the EU

Actualy, germany IS the EU. So what?
17:00 March 21, 2011 by storymann
Idiot,, That is a very vain and arrogant remark,,I assume you are German?

No Germany is not he EU,,,so what?
17:05 March 21, 2011 by tallady
@idiot ,you have really out done yourself this time ,idiot.
17:08 March 21, 2011 by red7
Actually, you look all the UK news, and you will know that the real Brits against what Cameron ae doing to libya now.
17:11 March 21, 2011 by Conan the Librarian
Idiot can claim Germany to be the EU all he wants.

I see it as being like a bloke down the pub buying beers for all his work-shy mates and never getting a pint in return, while they all take the p1ss out of him.

Who's the idiot now?
17:16 March 21, 2011 by tallady
I did..THE majority of Brits want a no-fly zone over Libya - as world leaders dither.

Almost three out of five, 57 per cent, say war jets should be sent to stop Colonel Gaddafi bombing his people. Just one in five oppose the idea, a YouGov poll for The Sun found.

You write like another unhappy German.
17:18 March 21, 2011 by Conan the Librarian
Red7, you are not the voice of the British people and I'm not sure exactly who you mean by 'reals Brits'.

I think you'll find that the British people have varying opinions on the subject, but there could well be sway in one direction or other.
18:03 March 21, 2011 by idiot
> No Germany is not he EU,,,so what?

Not sure what your talking abt, but germany is by far europes strongest economy - europes money bag. If you want to realize that or not, its the truth, check the statistics. Your pretty without germanys money.
18:08 March 21, 2011 by Expat IV
Correct me if I am mistaken, but didn't the Arab League vote in favor of UN Resolution 1973 last Friday? Now they have changed their minds? Is it because they see taking place in Libya what could take place in their own countries once they pull the same tactics against their own people?

In reading TL Comments through this crisis I have learned a great deal from people who think differently than I do. It has moderated my views but left me with a moral dilemma. I have completely supported the coalition no fly zone and the weekend attacks, but now I see a quagmire. What do we do when it all breaks loose in Yemen--already started, Bahrain--already started, Saudi Arabia,Kuwait, Syria and who knows here else? Do we establish a no-fly zone over all of Northern Africa and the Gulf Region? Please, some reasonable, sensible person out there give me some ideas!
18:12 March 21, 2011 by idiot
*Your pretty f_cked without germanys money.
18:19 March 21, 2011 by Conan the Librarian
Idiot, I think you're posting under the wrong headline. The one you are searching for is 'Idiot Gloats About His Wealth Whilst Having His Trousers Pulled Down'.

This one's all about Libya mate. The big writing in bold at the top of the page usually gives the topic away.
18:20 March 21, 2011 by Expat IV
As I state "...some sensible, reasonable person...."
18:31 March 21, 2011 by xx.weirich.xx
I agree with idiot on this one- Germany is HUGE in the EU. Who else is expected to bail out Greece and everyone else when they're failing? And yet who is criticized because they KNOW that they are the main reaosn the EU's economy is as good as it is?

And as far as Germany always being the troublemaker- They're trying to STAY OUT if a war, and they're being criticized? Weren't we just screaming at them for getting involved in too many wars?

18:32 March 21, 2011 by Conan the Librarian
It's easy. Check out who the large oil producers are and then you can determine a priority on which uprisings are most likely to see intervention in order to provide market stability. Mix in a few factors on whether their leaders are pro West or have actively sponsored terrorism like the bombing of an American passenger aircraft over Scotland. Lastly, see how this intervention goes both in the public eye and also effects on the ground. Act according to lessons learned from the air campaign (did it result in regime change or stalemate?). There's your answer.
18:36 March 21, 2011 by Expat IV
My apologies to both Idiot and Conan. I mistakenly assumed your comments were in reply to mine. I forget about overlap in timing online.
19:12 March 21, 2011 by Conan the Librarian
No worries Expat IV. Having a bit of banter washed down by some serious debate.

On your question though, it'd be interesting to see how the West would react if Saudi fell on its back side. It's the world's biggest oil producer, not too hot on the old human rights movement, far from a democracy, but ironically big buddies with Uncle Sam.

If I'm a betting man, there would be air strikes against the uprising rather than risk the loss of a good relationship or even worse, Saudi become an active supporter of terrorism.

What makes it easier to attack Libya is the fact that Gaddafi has been up to no good for a long, long time now; both at home and abroad.

If he does stay in power I'm reckoning he'll make attempts to source 'the bomb' again as a form of insurance. For that reason he's got to go.
19:22 March 21, 2011 by lordkorner
Having the Arab League on your side is almost as bad as having Italy for an Ally ,A wise decision Germany
19:43 March 21, 2011 by Expat IV
I believe most people agree that Gaddafi is a certifiable wacko. A coalition of nations based in the UN and NATO are trying to prevent what he is doing to his people while doing very little to stop the violence of the leaders of Yemen and Bahrain. Doctors are being attacked and beaten by the mercenary forces brought into Bahrain by its king. The violence is rapidly spreading to other nations. Now that a coalition of nations have stepped in to Libya, we have established a precedent. Do we now pick an choose which uprisings we will support and which we will ignore? Do we do a lottery? I honestly can't figure out where all this will lead.
19:46 March 21, 2011 by BR549
I don't give a flip if Germany sits this one out. If they did participate, there would be so much whining and fussing by both media and politicians that any move their military leaders make will end up in a full blown investigation.

In this country a Navy Captain can't even run a cadet training sailboat on not get raked over the coals because of an accident.

Sit it out Germany and do what you do best....write checks.
20:00 March 21, 2011 by Expat IV
Whomever or whatever we deem our creator to be, that power must be looking at the human race and saying, "Biggest mistake of my career". I'm afraid I would just have to nuke us all.
20:24 March 21, 2011 by BR549
@Expat IV

Great comment there, sporto! I love comments like yours. Kill off mankind, blow it all to kingdom come and YOU are the trigger man. The statement you made makes you no better than the things you are against...you crackpot!

Tyranny reigns over helpless souls, other countries intervene to stop it and quacks like you talk about blowing it all up (but save yourself).

I heard a statement once and I think your type fit this..."Some people would rather soil their britches than lift the lid".

Go ahead, "The Local," delete this comment because it dosen't fit your "peace and love" comment policies. You'll leave the "I should nuke the world statement" above but censor any opposition to it.
20:25 March 21, 2011 by Chicago1996
@ExpatIV: I commend you for beginning to acknowledge that the other point of view may have some merit as well. But on the other hand, it surprises me that you are only now beginning to realize the inherent consequence that a declaration of a ¦quot;no-fly¦quot; zone brings with it.

To me, the writing was on the wall. And why was it on the wall? ­ Because history repeats itself… It is no surprise that the Arab States are wavering with their resolve on the Libya issue. They most often fall short when it comes to ¦quot;reprimanding¦quot; their own brothers and sisters. And yes, you are right, what will the UK / France / US do when the political situation in the other African and Middle Eastern countries deteriorates to the point of a civil war? Specifically, what are they going to do about Iran? Or even perhaps Hugo Chavez in a year or two? And while we are at it, don¦#39;t forget North Korea either…. I believe that the countries that have voted ¦quot;Yes¦quot; to the UN declaration and are currently ¦quot;putting their weapons where their mouths are¦quot;, are headed down a very slippery slope indeed.

I will be the first to admit that I am not the greatest fan of Herr Westerwelle, but I do think that his siding on the side of caution is the right way to go in this situation. .. Sometimes, it is best not to be the first one to jump on a bandwagon and start pounding one¦#39;s chest. In general, it is more advantageous when cooler heads prevail and people step back, take a deep breath and think about the short term and long term consequences of their potential actions before they proceed. There is nothing cowardly about that. Many readers of ¦quot;The Local¦quot; claim that Merkel and Westerwelle are cowards for changing their minds on the no-fly¦quot; zone issue. I disagree. It is often better if someone makes an about turn when one realizes one is headed in the wrong direction, rather than to stubbornly continue plowing down the wrong path and inevitably making things much worse for everyone involved.

So far, the US is once again is doing most of the heavy lifting when it comes to enforcing the ¦quot;no-fly zone¦quot; and putting American servicemen into harms way… And if the situation on the ground worsens, are they going to be putting boots on the ground as well? Help secure the oil fields? Turn over every rock and search every cave to find Gaddafi? Help establish a new government? Train rebel troops? Where does it end? Mission creep is a bitch.
20:44 March 21, 2011 by BR549
@chicago1996 -

I commend you on your statement! Maybe cooler heads should have prevailed when the National Socialists were cooking/gassing millions of Jews and others deemed "undesirable" and we all should have sat around a campfire and talk/think it all through and find a peaceful, liberal do nothing solution. Talk, talk, talk. It is better to stand for something and be criticized for it than do nothing at all! Man, Germany forgets that action by the US pulled them from the toilet and gave them a chance to rebuild economically, politically and enjoy the quality of life they live today. On the other hand MAYBE we should have thought it through, kept a "cool head" and DID NOTHING...retard.
21:05 March 21, 2011 by Expat IV

I teach mentally retarded children on a daily basis. Please find a less offensive insult to use.
21:08 March 21, 2011 by BR549
@Expat IV,

Go hug a tree.
21:19 March 21, 2011 by Expat IV

Thank you, I'd love to have you a a guest speaker in my classroom.


You got it right. I am a 60 year old who has encountered a STEEP learning curve over this issue. Got a case of putting my mouth in motion before putting my mind in gear. I'll just keep slogging along reading TL to help broaden my mind. It is a great forum. Bye for now--gotta go find a tree to hug.
21:38 March 21, 2011 by BR549
@ Expat IV

Don't forget to brush the bark off your shirt when you are finished hugging that tree....BTW,I didn't mean to offend mentally challenged kids (seriously). I deem the term "retard" for those opposing my PERFECT political views.
21:44 March 21, 2011 by Altdude
All seriousness aside, I just find it remarkable that Qaddafi has never been promoted to Brigadier General in all these years.
21:46 March 21, 2011 by Expat IV
Apology accepted, BR549 aside from the Libyan issue, we fight a daily battle against such terms as "retard". I realize you used it as a matter of habit as do so many Americans. Just trying to make people aware of the damage it does.

I will remember to brush my shirt off before going to bed--just had a GREAT session with the big old white birch tree in my yard. ; )

Have a good night!
23:00 March 21, 2011 by derExDeutsche
Just keep watching KNUT.

As the Euro Oil War goes hyperdrive
00:00 March 22, 2011 by HMPingu
Neither Guido nor Angie would be involved in this conflict themselves. So, really, the terms coward, courageous, don't apply. What they would do is sent *other* people do the bombing, fighting, dying. So I should think we would *want* them to calculate, hesitate, equivocate. And then make the right decision. In this case they made the wrong decision, but cowards? I think not.
00:17 March 22, 2011 by Chicago1996
@BR549: Grow up.
00:19 March 22, 2011 by moorekwesi
@ derExDeutsche

I've been laughing my ass off.You definitely make KNUT a hero.^_^

i think the coalition has been hypocritical as always and this will come back to haunt them.Libya is made up of tribes..Gaddafi's tribe and the other tribe(which consist of the rebels since their family was overthrown).

In a country of over 6million,if a hundred thousand people arm themselves and begin shooting and asking for regime change,the "international community" flies planes,etc to bomb the land.We're awaiting for the next step.

The battle for OIL.
00:37 March 22, 2011 by mhdamro
ok ... i will put as simple as possible for all the simple minded out there ...

voting FOR the UN decision doesnt oblige germany to participate militarly ... they could have voted YES, and gave all their military personnel a month long vacation eating wurst and drinking beer...

it looks the foreign minister is foreign to diplomacy and common sense ....

once again to the IDIOTS who didnt get it yet ... VOTE YES ... send troops NO .... in this way you stay with your allies ... and you dont have to increase the number of german troops in afganistan as the german government stated lately to cover up for the thing that they have done in the UN .... GOT IT .... or do i have to make another comment in order for you to understand ............ !!!! god ....
01:32 March 22, 2011 by Chicago1996
Mhdamro: If Germany had voted "yes" for the sake of ¦quot;unity¦quot; and had stopped short of providing its military resources, people would have still crucified Germany just the same... To put things in perspective, go to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council and click on the links located on the right hand side table labeled ¦quot;UN Security Council Resolutions¦quot;. This will remind you of how many times the US and other nations have abstained from crucial and equally controversial votes in the past.
02:19 March 22, 2011 by derExDeutsche
@ moorekwesi

glad you enjoyed;)

Hey! Polar Bears no good for the Global Warming scam... its on social medicine.... we need some oil.... Hey LOOK OVER HERE... POLAR BEAR!!!!

go ahead, Germany, Oil on your hands. such a hypocrite.
12:55 March 22, 2011 by mhdamro
1... Civilians in Libya demonstrated peacfully agains the qaddafi who ruled for 40 years.

2... qaddafi responded by shooting on civilians by using AK47 and Anti aricraft guns ( i.e: anti aircraft guns shot not on planes .. but on women and children and ppl)

3. the army saw this, couldnt but to defect and align with the ppl, along with most of the embassadors and ministers in qaddafi's own government.

4. Qaddafi sends mercenaries from Chad and Mali who are paid 1000 USD per day to kill his own ppl.

5. Qaddafi threatens to "Cleanse" everyhome and every person in bengazi and other cities (his own words).

6. civilans started to train using weapons ( AK 47 and some weapons left over by the soldiers who couldnt handle it and fled the field) to defend themeselves against qaddafi (most of them are teachers, doctors, and lawers .. ) ..

7. qaddafi sends mercinaries to cities of zawyeh, zintan . and other cities ... killed no less than 2000 ppl as former defected soldiers witnessed

8. Two pilots defect with their Merage jets after they got orders from qaddafi to bomb peacfull civilian demonstrations ... "note: there were no rebels at that time ..!!! only civilians ...

Now tell me ... if you were in this situation .. will you just stay at home while they come to kill you and your wife and your kids ....!!!!!

another thing ... i guess its with in the germans nature to stand and watch while others are getting killed.. this happend during the 2nd world war when jews were killed ... and happens everyday in the train stations .... talk about CIVIL COURAGE .... i guess the german government needs a dose of that ... !!!!!
13:58 March 22, 2011 by Conan the Librarian

Cowardly behavior is not only displayed when physically fighting wars, but is displayed by numerous methods. The Oxfrod English dictionary lists the noun as 'A person who is contemptibly lacking in the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things'.

A strong country needs a strong set of leaders, not a dithering old woman and a half-wit side kick.
12:25 March 23, 2011 by HMPingu
@Conan The Librarian,

Thank you for looking up the meaning of cowardly behavior for me, vague as it is. I should point out though, that it still doesn't apply to the dithering old lady or her side-kick. The unpleasant things would not be endured by them *personally*, but by German kids.

To be clear, I believe they made the wrong decision here. The people of Lybia need all of our support, military and otherwise. A way to get rid of that mad man must be found. But resorting to ad hominem attacks on elected officials because they hesitate to involve the country's military is just silly.
14:20 March 23, 2011 by wenddiver
@Mhdaro- and why does Qadaffi have Mirage jets??? Because our friends the French sold them to him.

@HMPingo- Implying he is a half-wit, is unfair to half-wits, who I'm ssure want nothing to do with him.
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Here’s where people live the longest in Germany
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Germans down south seem to know the secret to a long life.

More Germans identify as LGBT than in rest of Europe
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The percentage of the German population which identifies as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender is higher than anywhere else in Europe, according to a new study.

'Reichsbürger' pair attack police in Saxony-Anhalt
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A "Reichsbürger" and his wife attacked police officers on Thursday, just a day after another Reichsbürger fatally shot an officer in Bavaria.

Five things not to miss at the Frankfurt Book Fair
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From consulting a book doctor to immersing yourself in an author's world with the help of virtual reality, here are five things not to miss at this week's Frankfurt Book Fair, the world's largest publishing event.

Parents who don't get nursery spot for kid entitled to pay
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The Federal Court of Justice (BGH) ruled on Thursday that parents whose children don't receive placements in nursery care are entitled to compensation.

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