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Pro-Guttenberg rally gathers in Bavaria

The Local · 6 Mar 2011, 09:00

Published: 05 Mar 2011 15:05 GMT+01:00
Updated: 06 Mar 2011 09:00 GMT+01:00

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Politicians from Guttenberg's conservative Christian Social Union (CSU) spoke at the two-hour event in the northern Bavarian town of Guttenberg, where demonstrators carried banners with slogans such as "Gutti was too good for you."

The rally was organized by the party's young people's association Junge Union (JU) to call for Guttenberg's speedy return to national politics.

Speaking at the event, Guttenberg's father Baron Enoch zu Guttenberg criticized what he called the "malice and self-righteousness" with which his son had been forced out of office. He said he had not experienced anything like it since 1945. Local CSU politician Gerhard Schneider spoke of a "witch-hunt."

The 39-year-old was forced to resign earlier this week over revelations that large parts of his doctoral dissertation had been plagiarized. Bayreuth University has stripped him of his doctorate.

There have also been pro-Guttenberg rallies in several other German towns, though they have greeted by mocking counter-demonstrations.

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16:35 March 5, 2011 by iseedaftpeople
not really painting the whole picture today, are we...

The article fails to mention that rallies were canceled up and down the country due to low attendance, and that in some cities anti-Guttenberg protestors almost outnumbered the pro-Guttenberg crowd.

Go on, perpetuate the myth that the people still want Guttenberg...
17:24 March 5, 2011 by DavidtheNorseman
But he has a cake! He must be loved by at least someone..:-)
17:52 March 5, 2011 by iseedaftpeople
yeah but who really wants to eat cake with Guttenberg's face on it...
22:40 March 5, 2011 by MaKo
Can we be completely sure that this event is unrelated to Fasching?
08:09 March 6, 2011 by proclusian
I find this pretty unbelievable... even if it is unrelated to Fasching, it's pretty silly and accomplishes the goal of being at the same time both in earnest and self-satirizing. Think about it: when someone like Margot Käßmann committed the "sin" of drunk driving, she knew she had to step down from her Bishop's office and she spent about 6 months, at least, showing that she was sorry for what she did. Guttenberg plagiarizes, in a systematic fashion, about 50% of his dissertation and it is not even clear to me that he thinks he did anything wrong.

More annoying still was the statement of Angela: "I haven't hired a wissenschaftliche Mitarbeiter but a defense minister!" It would be as if, one night, zu Guttenberg had run someone over with his car, and Angela had said: "I didn't hire a Formel 1 Profi, but a defense minister!" ...??

At this point, it is not so much that he deliberately plagiarized, but that he shows not a single sign of (a) remorse or even (b) knowing that he did something seriously wrong -- he prefers to say he made some "mistakes." Until this guy says: "Look, I deliberately set out to deceive the faculty of Law at Bayreuth, and that is seriously wrong -- it shows not only an academic failing but also a failing in my own character," and then announces that he will go away for at least 6 months, before attempting to claim the office of a shoe-shine boy in the CSU, I don't really see how anyone can take him seriously for a moment.
11:26 March 6, 2011 by pacali

'More annoying still was the statement of Angela: "I haven't hired a wissenschaftliche Mitarbeiter but a defense minister!" It would be as if, one night, zu Guttenberg had run someone over with his car, and Angela had said: "I didn't hire a Formel 1 Profi, but a defense minister!" ...??'

What's with the exaggeration? And how is the exaggeration the same as the thing you exaggerated?
13:15 March 6, 2011 by iseedaftpeople

Couldnt have said it better :-)

Although drunk driving is a serious matter and Kässmann rightly had to face legal consequences for it, in comparison, it's a minor slip-up (nobody got hurt, she just happened to be spotted by police at a red light), a slip-up that is simply dwarfed by the arrogance and hubris of Guttenberg in thinking until the end that he would get away with his deception. Remember: his admissions of guilt during the scandal only ever came piecemeal, whenever evidence was so glaringly irrefutable that there was no more denying a charge. And still, even after resigning, he blames others for his demise, the left-leaning media (that is, any newspaper that is not his sycophantic partner-in-crime, the Bild-Zeitung), the parliamentary opposition, and what have you...

No, this man has no character and morals, which incidentally he tried to evoke and make part of his image more than Kässmann ever did (and she was a top religious dignitary, after all!) - there is nothing special about Guttenberg, he is every bit as sleazy and scumbaggish as any two-bit moral high-horsing backbencher. And he deserves to be where he is now.
17:54 March 6, 2011 by rjones857
I wish I could be as certain that Guttenberg will not return. I am upset that he violated the basic premise of honesty is his dissertation. Yes, he did not own up to his mistake [dishonesty] until confronted with it. But with the political elite desiring his return -in the future, I will not discount the possibility.
22:23 March 6, 2011 by Logic Guy
Well, if any politican were to commit to honesty and Real Conservatism, then eventually the people would realize that they are the best person for leadership.

Why can't aspiring leaders figure this out?
09:18 March 7, 2011 by moistvelvet
I suppose Baron Enoch is still as proud of his son as he was the day Karl-Theodor came back to the Schloss saying "Papa I've got a Phd", naturally he will support his son but surely he's dissapointed after years of proudly telling people that his son is a doctor.
16:24 March 7, 2011 by rjones857

Why are so many of our leaders corrupted by the desire for title, whether real or not?
23:09 March 7, 2011 by Logic Guy
Well, people lie and pretend when they lack self-esteem.

People do all sorts of crazing things when they don't feel "Complete." They tend to create a facade, in an effort to fill a void.

Insufficient self-esteem is a huge issue for most humans.
23:09 March 7, 2011 by rjones857
Pride goeth before the fall...

Egg on the face is a terrible thing in politics... Smile Angela
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