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Police raid anti-fascists' offices after Dresden violence

The Local · 20 Feb 2011, 12:28

Published: 20 Feb 2011 12:28 GMT+01:00

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A spokesman for the group "Dresden Nazifrei!" said that officers from the state criminal police (LKA) seized ten laptops and six mobile phones when they stormed the group’s press office, as well as offices belonging to the Left Party and a lawyer.

Left Party MP Katja Kipping said around 20 balaclava-clad LKA officers stormed the "House of Encounter" where the "Dresden Nazifrei!" and Left Party have their offices at around 5.30 pm on Saturday, just as the demonstrations and clashes in Dresden were dying down.

She said the doors were smashed open and several volunteers working there handcuffed and forced to sit on the floor. The officers said they suspected a crime and a trespassing violation were being organised there. Kipping said the raid was excessive, while the spokesman for "Dresden Nazifrei!" said it could have been a revenge attack.

Thousands of people managed to disrupt the three neo-Nazi marches planned for Saturday in Dresden with sit-down protests and road-blocks. Violence flared when some anti-fascists tried to break through police lines to get to where the neo-Nazis were gathering.

Police said on Sunday that more than 50 officers were injured and around the same number of demonstrators arrested.

At times the protests resembled a riot as demonstrators vandalized cars, set rubbish bins on fire and pelted police with stones, bottles and fireworks. Officers reacted with water cannon and pepper spray.

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14:13 February 20, 2011 by Bishopbayern
These anti nazis are just as bad, everytime they turn up and use the nazis as an excuse for their own violence and then try and make out they are innocents, we know the fascists are scum but the left are opportunist thugs hell bent on causing a riot
14:58 February 20, 2011 by melbournite
the police, by attacking antifascists and the Left and acting in defence of neonazis are themselves, objectively acting like fascists
18:22 February 20, 2011 by Johnne
Typical German Police.
18:45 February 20, 2011 by cobalisk

So the Anti-Nazi's are just as bad as the Neo-Nazis? That is a false equivalence.

Nazis are banned here and with good reason so denigrating citizens who rail against Nazi's as some kind of conspirators is absurd.

Then you say 'the left are opportunist thugs hell bent on causing a riot' - Ah, see HERE is the real point of your post. you don't like ppl to the left of you.

Thanks for clearing that up for us, now we don't have to pretend you are just a regular person. We can acknowledge you have an agenda and are unwilling to look at more sides than your own.
19:42 February 20, 2011 by Prefabricated
I have to concur with Bishopbayern. Sorry to say this, but the other week there was a rampaging mob running round Berlin smashing things and making roadblocks, and it sure as hell wasn't the Nazis.
22:10 February 20, 2011 by Bishopbayern
cobalisk I have no hidden agenda rather an obvious one I would have thought. I think the nazi are scum and the left parasites on their backs. You blame the Police for attacking you when the left thugs use the nazis as an excuse to cause mayhem and damage. I have news for you, germany has rejected the nazis at every election overwhelmingly, we dont need your so called protection from them, the decent people of germany shun them unlike you that only encourage the nazis to play up. Stop playing student politics and grow up.
22:18 February 20, 2011 by cobalisk
I think the person hurling the names others should be the one doing the growing up. Discourse is not the same as insults and put downs.

I never blamed the police by the way. Not for attacking me, nor anyone else.

Perhaps you should actually READ my previous post. Might clear a few things up.
00:10 February 21, 2011 by LiberalGuy
There's nothing like an article about nazi's to bring out the best in people......
08:50 February 21, 2011 by tallady
"The Nazi's" all my life we hear and remember the Nazi's..We have them in The USA ,and everywhere there are people who can't or won't fit into society,(call them what you will )People that have become disenfranchised with their own..The reaction by the police is in itself a phobia of these types.The Nazi's at this time are going nowhere,most people are satisfied with the direction of society and the benefits bestowed on them by it.

Should things change in the future then raiding these places will only empower these thugs as we have leaned from the past. Every thing that puts them in the media spotlight is to their benefit.
10:01 February 21, 2011 by Talonx
NOTE: You never read about how many protestors where injured in these sorts of articles, only how many police. This is an implicit sort of propaganda that most Western newsmedia is guilty of, alongside the newsmedia of Iran or China during similar actions. Exactly the same treatment, except that with the Western Newsmedia, there are no laws dictating that it must be so, just a bunch of tools wanting to impress the higher ups.
10:31 February 21, 2011 by Shiny Flu
The one degree of separation between the Anti-Fa and the Neo-Nazi's is the idea of race. Both agree that violence against anyone is a just means to achieving their militant socio-political goals. Both disregard any true form of democratic process as defined by the 'constitution' and with that, German citizens' rights. When the Neo-Nazis and Anti-Fa came around to protest where I lived I witnessed the most decrepid behaviour from the Anti-Fa. They themselves are just as caught up by uniforms (black boots, pants and a hoody) and flags and chants/songs (a trademark of traditional Nazi Germany). Anyone that fails to see the similarities is either obscenely naive or just plain willingly ignorant.

As an Australian (and because it matters to so many people, born to Asian parents) living in Berlin, I do not at all agree with the Neo-Nazi's nor do I agree with the Anti-Fa. Which crowd would I rather be around? Well that's obvious, but it doesn't mean I'm going to celebrate the Anti-Fa's existence.

So long as those Neo-Nazi's are German citizens. They have the right to demonstrate/parade/protest/share-pretty-boy-head-shaving-tips etc. in public. To deny them (or any German citizen) that right, is to deny them a basic human right and also be a hypocrite - that is, if you believe in the ideals of freedom, free speech and democracy.

This doesn't mean you have to agree with them. I for one certainly do not. However as someone that truly believes in the power of democracy, freedom and human rights; I tolerate them. I will do anything within my power to legally oppose them, without violence. The only time I would employ violence is in self-defence.

I do however agree with the notion that the Police raid was 'revenge' or a form of scare-tactic to emphasise that the Polizei do not appreciate being attacked. I agree with keeping the two groups separate - violence is unnecessary and does nothing to convince Neo-Nazis that their beliefs might benefit from a little knowledge and/or evolutionary fact.
10:59 February 21, 2011 by idiot
quote cobalisk:

>So the Anti-Nazi's are just as bad as the Neo-Nazis?

>That is a false equivalence.

Replace 'Anti-Nazis' with 'Antifa' and the equivalence is right.

End of discussion.
11:00 February 21, 2011 by LiberalGuy
I feel the real issue here is, there are so many young people are feeling frustrated by the world they live in, that they are turning to these groups as an outlet for their frustration. I think if you cut through the BS propoganda of ether of these groups you would probably find alot of young people who share similar frustrations. The way the political rhetoric is these days from both sides, you can the gap between the left and right widening and unfortunately will probably lead to more violence from both sides
11:09 February 21, 2011 by idiot
quote LiberalGuy:

> I feel the real issue here is, there are so many young people are feeling frustrated by the world they live in.


further, ppl who cant handle even the life in social paradise germany, are just loosers.
11:42 February 21, 2011 by Alpat
In recent months there has been an extraordinary growth of Nazi YouTube activity, not merely revisionist history or skinhead bands, but violent, hate-filled material which calls for an active genocidal response from viewers. Many link to an on-line publication called "The Urban Terrorists' Handbook" which gives detailed instruction on the handling of explosives and firearms and the manufacture of nail-bombs.

Several concerned YouTube users, myself included, have been repeatedly flagging this content for at least a month now. We submit repeated YouTube Safety reports and give details of the extreme and illegal nature of the material. And no action whatsoever has resulted: no replies, no blocking of users, no comment.

These YouTube neo-Nazis are astonishingly bold. They have openly Nazi usernames like "TheFemaleNazi" and "AryanArmy", and use swastikas and SS logos as their user logos. They now have taken to spamming other users with their material, which is to say that unlike in "real life", they actively reach out to find you. Given the absolute lack of response from YouTube in enforcing its own stated policy, even when pressed, the Nazis are clearly justified in their belief that they can freely and openly use YouTube as an efficient recruitment tool.
12:04 February 21, 2011 by idiot
The line between right-extreme content hosted by youtube and left-extreme violence in Dresden is quite long though.

Why both parties bother the ppl of this world?
12:56 February 21, 2011 by prophecy
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17:19 February 21, 2011 by Talonx
@ ShinyFlu

Your equivocating remarks smack of either intellectual dishonesty or ignorance. I will assume good will and explain starting from the assumption that you are simply not aware of the difference.

You state, "The one degree of separation between the Anti-Fa and the Neo-Nazi's is the idea of race. Both agree that violence against anyone is a just means to achieving their militant socio-political goals."

Your first sentence is obviously not true. They also differ regarding form of governance and organization, attitudes towards the poor, attituteds towards human rights, trade, money, etc... The second sentence is also a bit odd, too my knowledge not even the neo-nazis think that 'violence against (anyone)' is a means to achieving there goals, though I am certain they would throw their own under a bus if it really came down to it. On the contrary, antifa targets only neo-nazis and the repressive police forces that serve to protect the neo-nazis from the local youth (antifa incarnate). It's worth mention that antifa is rooted in the anti-nazi tradition as sprouted from the much more violent and subversive wiederstand of the era of actual Nazi governance (42 assisination attempts anyone).

You also state, "Both disregard any true form of democratic process as defined by the 'constitution' and with that, German citizens' rights"

I would think one could easily argue that no countries constitution equals a pure and true form of democratic process, most constitutions allow for democracy a couple of times every few years (voting). In any event, I think it is easily arguable that when antifa within a community go into the streets to push out the neo-nazis, this is not only protecting democracy (from fascists), but is a form of democracy in action.
19:14 February 21, 2011 by Tom Metzger
When will the right and left wise up.Come together and go after the system itself.And tell the cops to stay home.

22:25 February 21, 2011 by Talonx
BTW, how is the picture associated with this article appropriate.

Shouldn't it be a picture of cops busting into an apartment?

Again, there's that implicit bias.
09:31 February 22, 2011 by wenddiver
Can we all just be friends- Rodney King

Anybody ever think of inviting your Nazis and Communists to a big picnic and concert and encourage them to get along? Bar-B-Que for friendship. Might be a nice goal for the Church's Pastors to organize.
11:32 February 23, 2011 by danceswithgoats
I am willing to bet that if 50 police had not been injured the anti-fascist offices wouldn't have been raided. The police don't get paid enough to get injured while enforcing the law. Protesting fascists with violence is counter-productive. I am willing to bet that sitting on the road en masse would have made the point in a more effective fashion.
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