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Archbishop: Church must proselytize Germany

The Local · 1 Jan 2011, 13:13

Published: 01 Jan 2011 13:13 GMT+01:00

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In his traditional New Year’s sermon, Marx said the Church needed to spread the Christian faith by actively attempting to convert Germans.

“A new evangelization is the mission of the coming age,” he said on Friday in the Munich Cathedral.

The Church must also keep more Germans from turning away from Christianity, Marx said.

“We aren’t dreaming of bygone times, we want to have an impact on this society,” he said, adding he was “disturbed as a bishop” by the growing number of people deciding to leave the Church.

Marx called 2010 an extremely difficult year for the German Catholic Church following revelations of widespread child abuse at Church institutions.

“We will have to continue to address such sexual abuse in the future,” the archbishop said. “We will have to look the truth in the eye, but we must not allow that there is an air of general suspicion.”

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Though the Church had to face up to its responsibility, Marx said German society as a whole needed to be aware of the suffering of children.


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14:19 January 1, 2011 by marimay
Brainwashing people for money is what is wrong with that. ;)
15:33 January 1, 2011 by Prufrock2010
Well, in a pefect world we wouldnt need churches because everybody would follow the perfect laws of the Universe with no emotion. Its emotionalism and liberalism thhat are responnsible for everything that's wrong in todays socieity. As a devout Christian I can only look to the example of Christ, who had no emotion and told us not to trust liberals. I agree that the catholic church isnt Buddism, but its a great religion that needs to expand because the muslims are expanding all the time and pretty soon they will take over the world. Thats the only logical conclusion for saving mankind.
15:57 January 1, 2011 by jmowens
Time for the catholic church to make ammends rather than be repopulating the flock...

PS to Prufrock2010:

Christ had no emotion???? Who overturned the temple of money lenders, cried in Gethsemane, or loved his disciples? Emotion comes with being human...please wake up.
16:03 January 1, 2011 by tallady
Credibility ,,the Catholic Church has lost it...
16:14 January 1, 2011 by storymann
jmowens Prufrock is being facetious...
16:53 January 1, 2011 by nparry
Bi-shop, Put Christ in Christianity and people MAY come to churches. Focus more on Christ and less on sex, reproduction. Why is it that men who have purportedly never worn a condom are always advocating reproductive issues. I say that the Catholic Church leadership is obsessed with sex. Get over it or get out and DO IT!
17:15 January 1, 2011 by iseedaftpeople
Yet again proof of the Catholic Church's blinding ignorance and presumptuousness...

People are turning their backs on this vile institution because they are no longer willing to back its hypocrisy, bigotry, and false sanctimony.

The "air of general suspicion" is something the Catholic Church has entirely brought upon itself. How can a person, any person, Catholic or not, retain trust in an institution that has violated the most basic human rights of thousands of children worldwide, and has a disturbingly long and intense track record of covering up, protecting its own and refusing to accept blame as an institution. An institution that degrades women, forbids condom use even in the most AIDS-ridden countries on earth, is an enemy of science and reason, and has declared secularity its sworn arch-enemy.

Bishop Marx, as well as the entire Catholic Church, are simply disgusting.
19:10 January 1, 2011 by Larry Thrash
Of course the Church wants money. Everything operates because of money look at the global hoax called "Climate Change". Just a greedy movement (religion) for taking people's money without earning it. Socialism, Communism, Capitalism, Greenism all operate to get money. The only one of these that creates anything useful is Capitalism and it's hated by the greedy leftist who create nothing but misery. Have a nice, Comrades. :)
19:47 January 1, 2011 by wenddiver
Laugh as we might, who would want to live in a country that hadn't been influenced by Christianity? Anybody want to immigrate to Saudi Arabia?? Yemen?? Cambodia?? Pakistan?? or Pre-occupation Japan??

Funny no assylum seekers ever say "I'm an oppressed Muslim, I would like to re-locate to Yemen or Pakistan".

The truth is obviouse the Pagan world has voted for the enlightened Christain Democracies with their feet. When did Communist Cambodia ever have an assylum seeker problem.
22:12 January 1, 2011 by auniquecorn
Archbishop: Church must proselytize Germany,

What he really means is "Church must raise the Church tax"

I am so GLAD I don´t pay into that sh!t.

23:15 January 1, 2011 by Logic Guy
Well, at least Prufrcok 2010 starts 2011 with sarcastic humor.

I'm not sure what to think of it. Change isn't always positive.

I do find it quite weird in how the Catholic Church is unable to discover an answer to the Child Molestation Problem and shrinking congregations.

Logic would strongly suggest that when you have a problem, and after you have tried the same solution over and over again, but without success, that it's wise to consider something new. All of humanity should think about his one.
01:10 January 2, 2011 by Prufrock2010
I agree with Logic Guy. Change is a bad thing. Logic would suggest that child molestation might be a bad thing that all of humanity should at least think about, and if they did so without emotion, they might decide that its a bad thing. I have thought about it a lot, and nowhere in the Buddist texts have I found it to be a good thing, therefore I think it is a bad thing. But if everyone looked at lifes problems without emotion, there would be no more bad things because they are all the product of liberal thoght. So the obvious logical solution is to separate emotion from logic, then everything will be all right and their wont be any more molestation. All of humanity should consider this logical solution.
10:27 January 2, 2011 by tallady
Pufrock,,I am impressed,you have been reinvented and reincarnated as you said you would.

Logic Guy,,my question is. you wrote...logic would strongly suggest that when you have a problem, and after you have tried the same solution over and over again, but without success..I see a contradiction here.{.Solution with out success},do you see my point ?it is logical ..
10:42 January 2, 2011 by Prufrock2010
Maybe I can answer that one for Logic Guy. You see, its all very logical. You cant have a solution without a problem, but you can have a problem without a solution. If you try to find a solution to a problem over and over again but the solution doesnt work, the logical thing to do is to find another problem to apply to the solution that does work. In order to do this you must detach yourself from all emotional connection to the problem, because solutions are not emotional but logical. If all of humanity understood this the universe would be a better place, and their would be no room for liberal thoughts which go agaiinst Gods will. Then we would all have real piece.
11:01 January 2, 2011 by tallady
15:44 January 2, 2011 by blockhaus
i think the reason why so many germans are turning away from religion is..the higher the inteligence of the general population in any given country, the more religion suffers.....an inteligent reasoning person simply will not believe the things the church tells them to.....religion asks us to be so open minded to the point our brain falls out....atheism is the only way foward for the whole world brought into realization through education....see ya!!
17:12 January 2, 2011 by SockRayBlue
Fine! So who will be available for the next Crusade?
17:39 January 2, 2011 by tallady
blockhaus,,did you and Logic Guy work this script out together??
17:49 January 2, 2011 by lumberjack
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20:33 January 2, 2011 by Prufrock2010
I think it was something about lobotomizing the population of Germany.
22:35 January 2, 2011 by Logic Guy
Well, I believe that Prufrock2010 should never had tried to re-invent himself. Sure, change can be a positive thing, but it can also really screw things up.

Solutions are like opinions, everyone has a few, but obviously not all of them will lead to positive results.
01:27 January 3, 2011 by Prufrock2010
@ Logic Guy

Well, Prufrock really doesn't care what you believe.

But since you mention it, opinions are like @ssholes. Everyone has one and every one stinks.
09:38 January 3, 2011 by blockhaus
tallady....er...no i did'nt 'work a script out' i'm just saying......all religion is a lie....it's not possible to reason with a religious person, because religion is'nt reasonable, reason comes with education and intelligence....
22:49 January 3, 2011 by Logic Guy
Well, Talladay, you have made some interesting statements over the last week. Usually I can link a persons words together and accurately determine who they are, but with you, I'm not so sure.

I'm a devout, intelligent Christian who obviously believes in the existence of an almighty God. What do you believe in?
00:44 January 4, 2011 by Prufrock2010
@ Logic Guy

To be intelligent and believe in the existence of an almighty God are mutually exclusive. Just to break it down for you, if one believes in the existence of an almighty God, one cannot be intelligent. If one is intelligent, one cannot believe in the existence of an almighty God. Ergo, you cannot be what you claim. Simple logic, old bean.
10:39 January 4, 2011 by LancashireLad
As I've always said, a religion is basically a set of lifestyle guidelines. Apart from the fact that that it is easier to prove the non-existence of a god than the existence of a god, a religion is there to also provide guidelines as to how to conduct your life.

The problem with religions is not the religion itself. It's the people at the top who provide their own "interpretations" of the holy scriptures. This is why we have the various different sects. "Logically speaking" Chrstianity should just be Christianity and Islam should just be Islam to name but two examples, but that's not the case for the reason I give above.

This is one of the biggest reasons I am arreligious. I used to say atheist but they are getting too militant for me - as evidenced by the fact that the Jehovas Witnesses, of all groups, have whinged that atheists are becoming too militant.
12:56 January 4, 2011 by tallady
Logic Guy,,I interpret that as you believe that I am not logical or maybe over ridden with emotion..Its a little complicated .

I believe that the scientists of the third culture are the pre-eminent intellectuals of our time. But I can't prove it. I only except this on faith....

I hope this gives you a little insight and answers your question...
13:18 January 4, 2011 by LancashireLad
Thanks Prufrock - especially loved the bit about pestering him especially on his day off ....

Mind you, I think this guy's finally given me the answer. He put forward the idea that "maybe God just doesn't give a ....". That's the answer.

We're a high school project !!!!!

A spotty celestial teenager created us and now we are on a shelf in his celestial bedroom, left to our own devices now he's got bored of us .... Reckon that fits?

Seems good to me.
00:20 January 5, 2011 by Prufrock2010
I love this particular thread. Some people are "telling it like it is." This is a hoot!
09:18 January 5, 2011 by tallady
Logic guy,,please over look my mistakes,,except s/b accept ,,
17:02 January 5, 2011 by Prufrock2010
@ tallady

Don't worry. He wouldn't know the difference.
18:04 January 7, 2011 by willowsdad
Wenddiver: remarkably ethnocentric, ignorant post. Muslims are not Pagans, but monotheists, like Christians and draw on the same tradition and scriptures. All the countries you mention have been to some degree "influenced" by Christianity because "Christian" Europe felt itself morally justified in imperialism and colonialism. You conveniently forgot about the Inquisitions, holy wars and witch burnings. What you call "Christianity" is really enlightenment humanism.
04:49 January 8, 2011 by Prufrock2010
Without the "enlightenment" or "humanism" parts.
08:38 January 11, 2011 by Incredible14U
'Germany and the holy roman empire' in pdf on web. Read it
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