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Noisy children most likely to annoy wealthier tenants

The Local · 5 Nov 2010, 11:52

Published: 05 Nov 2010 11:52 GMT+01:00

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High-earners, the elderly and people who don’t have children themselves are the most likely to complain about noisy children and see a rent reduction as a justified compensation, daily Hamburger Morgenpost reported this week, citing a survey by property internet site Immowelt.de.

The rich are more likely to be irritated regardless of whether they have children themselves. One in five people who have a household income above €4,000 per month after taxes think a rent reduction is reasonable if they have to put up with noisy children among their neighbours.

Roughly the same proportion of childless and elderly people take the same view, the paper said.

This was somewhat higher than the rest of the population, 86 percent of whom took the view that children should be allowed to run amok a little, even if it disturbs others.

Four percent of all people surveyed felt that not punishing children for noise constituted a “free pass to lazy parents.”

In practice, courts have generally decided that rent reductions are not a reasonable response to child noise disturbances.

“If a baby cries a lot, neighbours have to put up with it,” said Siegmund Chychla from the Hamburg Tenants Association. The same went for footstep noise or the playing of children’s musical instruments such as the recorder.

However, neighbours did not have to put up with, for example, toy “bobby cars” being driven around inside apartments, he said.

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Disputes over noise from children belongs to the list of most common complaints at renters' associations, he said.

"Children now only live in every fourth household, and that means a lot of understanding has been lost," Chychla added.

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Your comments about this article

12:29 November 5, 2010 by ron1amr
If you can hear children play, thats a great thing. And to be playing and not sitting inside in front of a computer or play station etc, is a good thing. People should just get over it accept it. If they don't like it, they have money move somewhere else.
12:34 November 5, 2010 by grazhdanin
I see relentless dog barking as a bigger problem.
13:07 November 5, 2010 by dcgi
Sounds like BS to me; the wealthy are usually & ironically the cheapest people, so yeah I could imagine they think financial compensation would be a reasonable solution.
13:36 November 5, 2010 by MonkeyMania
I see anal neighbours who complain about any little thing as a problem.
13:45 November 5, 2010 by catjones
@dcgi Your comments are as ridiculous as the story.
14:11 November 5, 2010 by delvek
I can think of many things worse then the sounds of children playing. Loosen the belt and collar, learn to live more.
15:18 November 5, 2010 by Der Grenadier aus Aachen
In other news, the sky is blue.
16:37 November 5, 2010 by peter douglas
i once had a neighbour in friedrichain who wan,t about recording every small detail of noise he had from our apartment emmiting from playing kids,he had to put up after going to the ordnungsamt he was told to come back to us and negotiate,let kids be kids thats all i come say.
17:45 November 5, 2010 by tallady
There is a limit to the noise that should be allowed..need to keep it down to a dull roar.
18:01 November 5, 2010 by Bruno53
I understand. Too much permisiveness allowing kids run around wild. Kind of like Muslim, orthodox Jews and Asian parents: they know HOW to control kids!
22:32 November 5, 2010 by brnskin2010
You people should be thankful that you are healthy and still around to hear the sounds of children laughing,,,,,playing and having a great time......Stop B*&^%ing about every little thing life is to short for that nonsense.......
00:11 November 6, 2010 by MonkeyMania
Noisy Children are more likely to get riled up about rich Germans in apartment buildings than people on lower incomes, a survey has found.

The children are more likely to be irritated regardless of whether they have rich Germans themselves. One in five children who have a German neighbour with an income above €4,000 per month after taxes think a rent reduction is reasonable if they have to put up with these AH's.
01:05 November 6, 2010 by Dizz
Its so baffling and so sad! Why is the world turning against children? In NY a few weeks ago a 4 year old girl has been sued for knocking over an old lady with her bicycle on trainer wheels. 4 years old and there was a lawyer who took the case and a judge who has ruled that the child can be sued because there is no evidence that a 4 year old does not know better than to run into people by accident.

02:20 November 6, 2010 by padu
I thought German muffel all hated children.
07:38 November 6, 2010 by hOU
And we wonder why the German population is bloated w/ the old and infirm - crippled w/ "insurance paranoia"...

Germany is dying en-mass yet they resolutely refuse to breed.

But let's face it: Greed is good, and children are repulsive!
00:51 November 7, 2010 by Gretl
Germans...too stupid to breed. Maybe the Turks are just waiting until they can annex German territory as Northern Turkey. I have 3 girls and one stepdaughter and have been teased by Germans for not having television. At least my country sees the future in children. Perhaps if Germans bred more, they would have to have guest workers.
04:15 November 7, 2010 by Musikmom
Hmmmm What happened to "Ein Herz fuer Kinder"? I just saw a sticker here in the states for the 30th anniversary. It was strange to see it here. Do you still see the heart stickers a lot in Germany?
14:12 November 7, 2010 by tallady
I had one older German man tell me "children should be seen and not heard".
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