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Sarrazin will be hard to sack, judge warns

DDP/The Local · 31 Aug 2010, 08:03

Published: 31 Aug 2010 08:03 GMT+02:00

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Joachim Vetter, chairman of the Federal Association of Labour Judges, told the Neue Osnabrücker Zeitung that however absurd Sarrazin’s remarks might be, they probably didn’t suffice legally to dismiss him.

In a statement issued late Monday, the Bundesbank said it “distances itself categorically from discriminatory remarks” made by Sarrazin but remained vague on whether it would sack him.

“The Executive Board of the Deutsche Bundesbank will immediately conduct a discussion with Dr. Sarrazin, give him a hearing and take prompt further action,” it said.

The statement followed widespread outrage that erupted after Sarrazin told a weekend newspaper that races were distinguished by a particular gene such as “a Jewish gene.” The remark followed a string of controversial remarks he has made about Muslims and integration in Germany.

Sarrazin stood by his views on Monday when he launched his book Deutschland schafft sich ab - Wie wir unser Land aufs Spiel setzen, or “Abolishing Germany - How we’re putting our country in jeopardy.”

Judge Vetter said breaches of the Bundesbank’s internal code of conduct were not grounds alone to dismiss Sarrazin.

“A requirement for (sacking) would be be serious misconduct relating to official business,” he said.

It was doubtful whether private opinions unrelated to the office constituted such a breach, he said.

Most media are reporting that Germany’s president, Christian Wulff, would in fact have to sign off on Sarrazin’s dismissal. Wulff’s office declined to comment to news agency DPA.

The centre-left Social Democratic Party (SPD), of which Sarrazin is a member and for whom he was Finance Minister for Berlin from 2002 to 2009, has begun proceedings to expel the renegade politician. Party boss Sigmar Gabriel said Sarrazin had crossed a “red line.”

But in a rare show of support for Sarrazin, the SPD mayor of Berlin’s Neukölln district, Heinz Buschkowsky, who is himself known for blunt – though usually more constructive – remarks on integration, criticised the expulsion proceedings.

“A Volkspartei (people’s party) that has broad wings must put up with uncomfortable and disturbing discussion,” he told broadcaster ARD.

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The government's integration commissioner, Maria Böhmer of the conservative Christian Democrats, said: “For me, he is no longer acceptable as a Bundesbank board member.”

Böhmer told the Ruhr Nachrichten that other statements by Sarrazin on heredity and intelligence – implying that some races were more intelligent than others – were “plainly and simply untenable.”

That view was echoed by Markus Nöthen, the Director of the Institute for Human Genetics at the University of Bonn. The thesis that whole ethnic groups were genetically smarter than others was “absurd,” he told the Kölner Stadt-Anzeiger.

“Hundreds of genes are involved in highly complex traits such as intelligence,” he said.

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09:26 August 31, 2010 by catjones
Big surprise, the Bundesbank is complicit in xenophobia. You can even get away with benign murder in Duisburg. There is no accountability in gemany, not if pensions are at stake.
09:49 August 31, 2010 by Prufrock2010
So the Bundesbank can't muzzle him and it can't sack him. I say fine. He's merely a board member. If the rest of the board finds his comments repugnant, they should simply make him a pariah in their midst, as he has no individual power anyway. Then he might learn to identify with the people he's now attempting to marginalize for profit.
10:29 August 31, 2010 by JAMessersmith
If what he said was utterly false, I'd understand... But as a liberal, I don't understand the defense of Islam, or any other superstitious-religion for that matter.

This week Iranian officials called the first lady of France a prostitute-whore for not backing the stoning of a woman who committed adultery! What the hell is that!? This is a Stone Age culture we're talking about. Imagine if Christians were about to stone a woman for committing adultery? We'd be back in 1492.

And yes, there are some Muslims who aren't quite as hardline... but there are also Christians who aren't as hardline, and yet the vast majority of liberals I know don't support them (nor do I). How about Scientology? Germany has dubbed their "religion" a cult. Yet Islam, who stones women to death for adultery is tolerated???

Yes, Islam was once a highly advanced culture in terms of science and philosophy, but they've since regressed, all across the Muslim world, and are stuck in the Dark Ages. Same can be said for certain Christian groups... fine... you're right. I'm an atheist, I don't care...

Look at the headscarfs/burkhas, for crying out loud! Muslim women can say it's "their choice" all they want, but the given reason Muslim men put forth is that they'll rape women if they show their faces, or hairdos. What the hell is that!? If they were Christians, people would be up in arms.

This religion/superstition has gone way too far, and if it takes a right-winger at the Bundesbank to call it out, so be it. This Islam-superstition is far too tolerated by the left, and it is entirely hypocritical. No other religion is given this kind of leeway. It's insanity. Religion, by itself, is nuts... let alone Islam. To hell with it all. If Scientology is a cult... what is Islam???
12:11 August 31, 2010 by William Thirteen
oh dear...out come the wingnuts...
13:16 August 31, 2010 by Prufrock2010
JAMessersmith --

I agree with much of your post, with this caveat: I believe it is a mistake to conflate Islam itself with the barbaric stone-age practices of a small percentage of radical fundamentalists, hence the tone-deaf generalizations of Sarrazin that have spawned this debate are subject to public opprobrium. Had Sarrazin specifically discussed policy issues within Isamic theocracies, or the brutal and indefensible application of Shariah law where it is practiced, this would be a different and more legitimate discussion. However, my perception is that Sarrazin is simply attempting to appeal to a reactionary populist element for profit without offering any constructive solutions to the fundamentalist cultural warfare that is gaining momentum worldwide. It is a well-established and successful political strategy to mirror one's opponent, and today we see a groundswell of fundamentalist Christians mirroring fundamentalist Muslims in what each side believes will be a fight to the finish. Sane voices representing moderate Christians and moderate Muslims have either been drown out or are strangely muted, leaving only the most hard core elements to drive the debate. It is the Crusades redux, and I blame the moderates and political leaders on all sides for allowing it to reach this level of insanity. This, to me, illustrates the inherent problem with all religions and the cowardice of political leaders who are afraid to call a spade a spade in secular societies in order to address specific problems rather than to fuel mass hysteria. A pox on all their houses, I say. The absence of reasoned and measured political leadership, and the silence by moderate religious leaders, is appalling. It will only lead to the religious warfare that fundamentalists on both sides are craving and which neither side can win.
14:11 August 31, 2010 by saucymugwump
William Thirteen wrote: "out come the wingnuts"

Yes, the knee-jerk liberals who stick their fingers in their ears anytime discussions arise of differences between the races.

Any sociologist can tell you that on IQ tests, Jews score 105, East Asians score 101-102, and people of African ancestry score 85, with the average being 100. The average was set using people of European ancestry. People try to claim that the score for blacks is due to bias, but then they must explain the fact that a person with one black parent and one white parent scores halfway between 85 and 100 (Obama is an exception). This is not news. Sarrazin was merely noting that Jews are more intelligent than most. He also noted that Muslims refuse to assimilate, something that Turkish PM Erdogan has officially approved.

14:17 August 31, 2010 by Prufrock2010
Without agreeing or disagreeing with your unsubstantiated IQ statistics, they are irrelevant to the discussion at hand on this thread. It doesn't take a sociologist to tell you that Muslims are not a race but people who adhere to a particular religion which has many subsets.
15:00 August 31, 2010 by William Thirteen
any sociologist could also tell me that the moon is made of green cheese. Where is Logic Guy to set us all straight?
15:07 August 31, 2010 by lecturenotes2009
i think Sarazin should read this article too. More accurate, ground-based data.


we can see how many people immigrate to germany, and how many leave germany. and yes, the highest immigrants nowadays are from Bulgaria and Romania.

and yes, recently, German statistic office has issued the comprehensive study, underlining that the women from the second and third generation of women immigrants have no higher birth rate than germans, meaning, populiation shrinking will occur anyway, and as in spiegel clearly write, over population of turks and arabs will never happen.

just to refresh: http://www.thelocal.de/society/20100811-29073.html

funny funny funny
01:05 September 1, 2010 by chicagolive
Well Sarrazin marks might be a little to harsh for some but the delivery is just the same. I don't agree so much with the smarter gene I think this just comes down to who has the most access to education and people of African decent have one of the lowest levels of access compared to the other groups so it can be so that one group seems to be smarter then another group.

Now with the issue of the religions lets be real here most Islamist have no intention of integrating never ever, the one who say they want to are in the minority. From personal and family experience the religion has no wish to be agreeable nor one with others. Have you not noticed the ones who defend Islam the most(the women)are the ones who are the worst persecuted by it. So we must also ask ourselves why for what reason do they do this have they not read the Koran fully it fully states the subjection of women how low their worth is compared to men.

These are the questions that must be asked, and these are the questions people refuse to ask, Islam and the countries and governments that push it has been given a pass on the atrocities they have committed but we damn a man for what he says even when part of it might be a uncomfortable truth why are we afraid they might shut off the oil if we talk to much.
02:23 September 1, 2010 by Prufrock2010
Maybe it's time to differentiate between ethnicity, nationality and religion and begin to have a discussion like adults. A novel concept in these exasperating times, but worth a shot. The generalizations being bandied about are, at best, reactionary and counter-productive -- at worst, inflammatory and hate-mongering. Nothing good can come of this current approach to a real or perceived problem.
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