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Swine flu threat continues as Germans opt out of vaccine

DDP/The Local · 7 Dec 2009, 09:00

Published: 07 Dec 2009 09:00 GMT+01:00

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RKI President Jörg Hacker told broadcaster ARD on Monday that while the peak of infections may have been reached, there could be another wave of illness this spring.

He recommended everyone in Germany should still get an A/H1N1 vaccination.

Only about six percent of those living in the country have gotten the vaccination, according to daily Westfalen Blatt on Monday.

Since late November, some 9.6 million doses have been delivered to healthcare facilities around the country – but only 4 to 5.8 million have been used. Meanwhile the complete delivery of some 50 million doses is planned to be completed by late March. At a total cost to German states and health insurers of some €600 million, the state of Thuringia’s Healthy Ministry official Hartmut Schubert told the paper that Germany should give its extra vaccinations to developing nations.

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He also suggested selling the Pandemrix vaccine to ease the costs to states, Schubert told the paper. There has been some discussion of sending the extra doses, produced by pharmaceutical company GlaxoSmithKline, to Ukraine and other eastern European countries over the holidays, he said.

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11:44 December 7, 2009 by Edmond Schindler
I have been to my house Arzt twice seeking the swine imu and both times told that I am not in the risk category and denied the vaccine.

I am 55, a heart patient and have suffered 4 heart attacks over the last 14 years.

So it isn't that people aren't going to their doctor for the shot. The doctors in Germany don't believe in the vaccine and deny the requests!
11:56 December 7, 2009 by mprulez
check this out!...a bit of clarity from the other side, the side which the newspapers do not find interesting to report

12:09 December 7, 2009 by Edmond Schindler

This site merely redirected me to promotional sites wanting registration before allowing me to "See" the articles listed.

I found nothing of value from your URL link!
12:16 December 7, 2009 by mprulez
Sorry Edmond..something probly went wrong with the tr site. here is the actual link

13:05 December 7, 2009 by LancashireLad
> http://www.theflucase.com

I had a look at the one asking if the WHO is panicking -seems a bit OTT to me. The writing style and argumentation was not exactly coherent.
14:00 December 7, 2009 by latifpk
I am 30 and quite healthy. I got vaccinated 2 weeks ago and so did a couple of my friend who are younger than me. None of us suffered any side effects except for a bit of drowsiness on the day of vaccination.

So far I have not heard of anyone being rejected for the vaccination.
14:59 December 7, 2009 by Macqueene
We (including our kids) have taken this vaccine without any side effects other than hand-pain for 2 days. Most of our friends and their families too have had this vaccine (mainly those who want to travel during this vacation time). No one had any adverse reaction. I do not understand why is there so much fuss about this vaccine...
15:59 December 7, 2009 by Edmond Schindler
I don't understand the fuss or the refusal of my doctor either...
16:13 December 7, 2009 by mprulez
perhaps the fuss is about the long-term effects than short term!..perhaps the doctors are worried not about what happens immediately but what is in the vaccine!

What we can say is that we do not know much. All we are told is to take the vaccine. The next time a doctor tells you not to take it, ask the doctor "why"?
19:11 December 7, 2009 by Celeon
There is nothing in this vaccine that was not already part of normal seasonal flu shots since years.

Im 29, healthy and do not belong to any of the risk groups. Nonetheless i got my shot when i just asked for it.

Remember people, you have the free choice of which doctor you want to go to in Germany. If your Hausarzt doesnt give you the shot , simply go to another one for it.

Look through the internet , many doctors vaccinate everyone who wants a shot. Even without appointment. You just go there and get the shot.

I got my shot a few weeks ago. No appointment , no waiting. Took me about 10 minutes and i was on the road again.
03:21 December 8, 2009 by Davey-jo
I think Germans are naturally wary of injections being offered by the state. There's a history don'cha know.
08:00 December 8, 2009 by MaKo
I sure am confused about this h1n1. Our pediatrician will not give the immunization; he says it's unsafe because of the mercury levels in it.
15:24 December 8, 2009 by StefanieH

there are actually things in this vaccine, which, the last time they were used many years ago, caused severe long-term side effects. Below is an e-mail sent around by some doctors in Germany to their patients; very interesting:

Die beiden Impfstoffe gegen die so genannte "Schweinegrippe"

Pandemrix® und Focetria®, enthalten als Adjuvans (Wirkverstärker) Squalen.

Beim Menschen ist Squalen bei den US-Soldaten des ersten Golfkriegs als Impfverstärker engesetzt worden. 23-27%, also jeder Vierte von ihnen und auch solche, die zu Hause blieben(!), bekamen die sog. Golfkriegskrankheit, mit chronischer Müdigkeit, Fibromyalgie (Muskelrheuma), neben Gedächtnis- und Konzentrationsproblemen, persistierenden Kopfschmerzen, Erschöpfung und ausgedehnten Schmerzen charakterisiert. Die Krankheit kann auch chronische Verdauungsprobleme und Hautausschlag einschließen.

Die Erkrankung hat sich seit 1991 also seit 18 Jahren nicht gebessert. Bei 95% der Geimpften mit Golfkriegssyndrom wurden Squalen-> Antikörper gefunden, bei den Geimpften aber nicht Erkrankten bei 0%. Erst nach mehr als 10 Jahren wurden die Schäden vom US-Verteidigungsministerium anerkannt.

Wenn die Bundesregierung ihren Willen durchsetzt und 35 Millionen Menschen geimpft werden, ist damit zu rechnen, dass 8-9 Millionen Bundesbürger für die nächsten Jahrzehnte unter chronischer Müdigkeit und Fibromyalgie etc. leiden werden.

Geben Sie dieses Email bitte an möglichst viele ihrer Bekannten weiter.
18:19 December 8, 2009 by Celeon
@ StefanieH

There was an article about that email in der Spiegel lately.

Its bullshit.

1. The doctor (Dr. Juliane Sacher) who created this email is renowned for controversial opinions.

She also claims that cancer can be healed altering your eating habits and says that the HIV virus is not necessarily the cause for AIDS.

Short, she is total nutjob.

So much for her.

2. Her claim about the gulf war syndrome is nonsense aswell.

The anthrax vaccine the u.s soldiers recieved contained no Squalen at all. Therefore it cannot be responsible for the symptoms some of them show today.
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