Published: 7 Jun 12 08:32 CET | Print version
Updated: 7 Jun 12 16:09 CET
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Germany’s biggest credit bureau Schufa plans to tap social networks such as Facebook and Google Street View in a huge data trawl for personal information to use in deciding whether a person is credit-worthy.
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Thanks Mark, for zucking your fellowman.
Blaming Zuckerberg is like blaming Steve Jobs for someone making obscene iphone calls.....Russians call them DeathPhones?
Hey cat, how you doin`? You're starting to feel like my little shadow- its kinda flattering. But please, my good man, be careful because...
...you misquoted me in the Moody's thread and now you`ve done it again here. Please do take the time to read. You quote these words in your comment and attribute them to me (you `can enter`) and `proof`. I wrote that `police can enter` the data- not `you`. They do not enter it as `proof` but as `evidence`. And uhm, I agree with you, the state has laws...
In any case, I think that you have missed my point here. Why would a person wish to enter personal details on a platform that is used by police, spy agencies and other entities to compile a dossier on the platform`s members?
Maybe its just a generational thing.
Also, do really think that people like Eric Schmidt of Google and Mark Zuckerberg are not cooperating with the Security State?
Until next time, all the best, cat. :)
Don't really like this idea of credit rating and I don't trust those who do it.
But to the Russians who call it "Deathbook" try to change your country back (if it every was) to a democracy that may help to ease you fears.
In my opinion, the idiots like the one you described on Facebook only serve to make the pill go down easier but they don`t justify the actions of the authorities. These cases are held up by the police state to say, `nothing to fear, you have lost your right to privacy but we are getting criminals off of the street`.
I don`t buy it: `Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither`- Ben Franklin
How would you feel if they were reading your snail mail or wire-tapping your phone. Is this any different?
You don`t trust the Schufa crew? What about those listening to your cell or monitoring your blackberry in England and the rest of Europe (Hi ECHELON)? Why is it that the English just don`t seem to mind the CCTV cameras and the whole surveillance state thing? It makes the Germans hair stand up. Ever read Len Deighton´s SSGB? Oh, the irony...
By the way, I wrote that a Russian friend of mine referred to Facebook as Deathbook- not the Russians.:)
True ,the CCTV are for stopping crime but they don't they are only used to catch some of the perpetrators after the event.
Personally I only use facebook for contact to my old English friends ,only contact the wife on my mobile and don't have or want a blackberry (unless it is in a pie).
I have read the book many years ago but I am not keen on his style and will not read it again.
What you say about the Germans is correct but I find some of their attitudes strange ,e.g. you can't watch hardly any videos on you tube because of rights that as far as I can see have nothing to do with Germany.
I they tend to scream out on green issues but don't delve deeper in to some of the frankly corrupt practices of the people in charge of German and even more so the E.U. ,don't demand a vote on expansion ,the change to the Euro or any of the major changes that passover them without a word of protest.
However I live here like the people and love the beer.
Say sorry to your Russian friend but tell him to watch his back as you never know who is watching,. :-)
Pessimists never have a good day and paranoids flatter themselves thinking others really care what they're thinking (or posting).
And yes, me reading your public, voluntary postings is different from me opening your mail or wire-tapping your phone. Got your house blurred?
Agreed regarding Deighton`s style. Don`t care for it either.
As for GEMA, I think that most Germans despise it, even the musicians here. This has been imposed on Germany by the copyright interests and their lawyers.
I also agree that too many Germans are Green Nazis or perhaps more tolerably support a lot of the green agenda without too much reflection. Agenda 21, people?
I`m with you on the EU as well, where is Germany`s Nigel Farage? I am also a Euro skeptic.
As for the Russian, she watches her back. Second nature cuz of the history. Too bad that people in the UK and the USSA don`t have any spider senses because the police state is already there.
Have a good one.
@cat
I`m a realist and a skeptic cat, not a pessimist. And I`m the opposite of paranoid- I think everybody likes me. :)
I say let the user beware. No thanks