Published: 25 Nov 11 14:32 CET | Print version
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/society/20111125-39115.html
Doctors were left astounded after a gigantic baby set a new record for Germany’s heaviest-ever naturally born newborn Friday. The boy was named Jihad.
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There should always be cultural awareness of the local culture when naming a child, a Christian version would be when hispanics name their sons Jesus, this is ok in latin America, but in north America, it just means that the kid will be part of underclass and never fully integrated into main stream society.
Also in the UK when parents (normally only one umarried mother) give their children chav names like Jordan. Mercedes etc they are making a statement of low expectations for life.
But hey maybe , I am wrong and it is a Johnny Cash "A boy named Sue" sort of toughen the kid up for life sort of thing?
Welcome Jihad. Salam
Why does a mother from Germany give this anti-non-muslim name to her child?
Why did she not have the self-discipline to eat dietary foods in order to not damage the health of the unborn?
Will the German authorities accept her choice of name as it is on the list of unacceptable names?
What are the jobs of these obviously wealthy parents that enables them to feed and raise fourteen children now?
A US couple lost their kids for giving them names like Adolph Hitler
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/22/8952917-parents-of-adolf-hitler-campbell-lose-custody-of-newborn-hons
That was probably more over the top than Jihad, possibly.
Another mouth & medical bill to be covered by the German taxpayers.
What a bunch of hostile, racist creeps lurking here.
Crawl back in your holes, won't you?
Just to correct
Josef 2011 if he was to read the Quran objectively he would know that the verb and noun for jihad has come to strive to betterment, towards God or against oneself.
Taqiyya is a term in Shi'i Islam which mainstream Muslims do not follow and can only be applied if a person's life is endanger.
The amount of misinformation and religious hatred against a particular religion is quite scary. Muslim turks and indo-paks have actually worked in the 50s/60s/70s to build the infrastructure of countries like the UK and Germany so I think it is rather unfair to brand all of them and their faith. The midlands of the UK would never have been made if it wasn't for their hard work or should I say jihad!
No matter what the "word" 'Jihad' means to people of Islam, what it means to many non-Islamic people is what many posting here have commented on! But nice attempt at spinning this to project racism on those that do not share your opinion.
We do not really know the intention of them that named the child, but it does appear that it was not very well thought out! Not unlike many of the comments I see here... bravoalex for example!
but other than that every thing works great.
You can try to reinterpret things but the fact remains that some religions sanctify violence, warfare and demand an eye for an eye (are vindictive).
This is no fault of the baby boy but it seems the mother is very traditional (to have so many children in an overpopulated world is criminal to say the least) and it seems that the boy was named out of anger or out of harboring ill-will. This name is likely going to isolate the poor boy and facilitate his brainwashing by his family and community further dividing the society. Clearly "integration" or "assimilation" is something Germany is not very good at (seeing that today the world has to suffer at the hands of a certain other German religious community that left after/during WW2).
Being German means that these people ought to identify with Germany. The boy should have typically German names or atleast names that are close to German names. This does not bode well for Germany or the family (or the Muslims of that region). May goodness have mercy upon us and put love in the hearts of those who choose to leave their religion / countries behind to settle in the blessed lands of Europe.
Firstly, as a mother: good luck to little Jihad's mother on the healthy birth of her new son. That's one helluva weight.
Secondly, and this one goes to the unenlightened or ill-informed shiraz who writes: "it seems the mother is very traditional (to have so many children in an overpopulated world is criminal to say the least)". I wonder if shiraz read of the American woman who will give birth to her 20th child early next year (http://www.duggarfamily.com/).
Instead of judging people you've not met nor are likely to meet, why not show a little tolerance and understanding, have a laugh at the name (as we laugh at Mercedes, Tyrone, Yahoo, Soleil Moon Fry, Fifi Trixibelle, Jaxon and other oddities parents come up with) and try to be the better person?
And why not keep in mind Shakespeare's line:
"What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet;"
Little Jihad's chances in life lie with all of you, your ability to have and keep an open mind, and to demonstrate the tolerance you desire from others.
"The midlands of the UK would never have been made if it wasn't for their hard work or should I say jihad! "
I was born and breed in the midlands and this is a total lie .
Never have made what?
Birmingham was know by two names
1:Workplace of the world.
2: City of a thousand trades.
It had possibly the first factory of the industrial revolution at Soho,and was a world leader in engineering.The spitfire a famous WW2 fighter plane was built there.
These day have gone thanks to lack of investment and other problems
but the influx of "indo-paks" who did not arrive till the late 60's was not the pick me up the place needed as may who came had no skills at all .
And now Birmingham is for want of a better description split into ghettos and that needless to say does not help.
Whatever meaning you want to apply to this name, the sheer fact that it is associated with death, destruction and terrorism shows a complete lack of common sense on the part of the parents. The DailyMail states, "The Islamic term is used in the Koran to describe the religious war all followers are to wage against 'non-believers'." The good thing that with names like muhammad and jihad, employers can pick them out easily.
Considering her weight and that she has had thirteen kids, I would bet money that she's on the welfare dole as well. Basically, Germany is paying Muslims to breed them out of existence.
The simple fact that you quote the DailyMail says a lot about you. You still havent cared to answer my question to YOU here: http://www.thelocal.de/politics/20111122-39027.html. But I guess it was just easier to dodge it, eh, what with those inconvenient facts and all that...
Bad baby name is bad, and fat mumma is FAT!
http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/demographics.asp
"The fall in the German population can no longer be stopped. Its downward spiral is no longer reversible. It will be a Muslim state by the year 2050." Walter Radermacher...although he distanced himself from the last sentence later, saying that they were someone else's words.
So, this means that Muslims have more children compared to Germans and will outbreed them simply by numbers...not by "Muslims eat[ing] Germans"
I'll go back and respond to the other post you referenced when I get the chance.
the use of the word jihad as a personal struggle is just part of a pattern of misleading the west as to what is meant. islam does not permit other religions, it does not permit people to reject islam for another or no religion (apostacy), it does not permit a civil government to operate independantly of religious rule - so the true jihad is the conversion of secular governments to religious theocracies under islam - in which the quran dicates all rules, laws, customs, and moral codes. hence the right to free speech is sublimated to the quran which says there certain things one can NOT say or print, even if it is a non-muslim country saying it.
all of this is well documented and easily proven. so of course i wont get attacked on the substance of what ive posted but instead ill be called intolerant, a bigot, or otherwise personally attacked. after all, a personal attack on me wont require facts or proving a point of view and
"they have greatly oppressed me from my youth, but they have not gained the victory over me."
Psalm 129:2
There is a meaning in the words. If you say "Muslims are breeding Germans out of existence", it is to be understood in quite a different way than "Muslims are outbreeding Germans". Anyway. I guess it's important to keep a cool head about things. I personally disapprove of such a name for a kid. Jihad - ironically, my first reaction is "Jesus" :-)
It's a terrible name and it is not a good sign of integration. So actually I agree with most commenters here. But where I disagree, is when people start screaming about Germany becoming a Sultanate in 30 or 50 or 80 years or anything. First, it's Germans' fault if they don't make enough babies, well, their own and the Government's. They are driving themselves out of existence with their low birthrate, their low acceptance of kids (all these stories of mothers being thrown out of buses, theses signs saying "Kinder Spielen Verboten" and stuff) and the rest. Stats show that immigrant families tend to have more kids, although 13 children is by no means the norm. So the DailyMail gets on the roof and screams that Germany is a Muslim state in 50 years.
What they DON'T say is that for the last years in a row, there has been significantly MORE outmigration from Germany to Turkey than inward migration. Turks, or Germans with a Turkish background, are going "back" to Turkey. The bad news is that it's mostly the educated ones who leave, as they don't feel they are given as many opportunites here than in Turkey. Those who stay are those who call their kids "Jihad". That's quite sad. But true. And you won't read that in the DailyMail...
hatred for Muslims and Blah Blah Blah ), I must say the name is realllllllly un usual. infact it is not a name at all. I mean, a Muslim naming his/her child: 'jihad' is like a christian naming his/her child as : ''celibacy", "virgin" OR " 'k jews " in an arab/jew country. maybe , the name was not exactly: "jihad" but had some other spellings and our beloved 'the-local' correspondant made a mistake... I have been living in germany for about 3 years and I know the the possibility of Muslims( like other foreigners) seeing the immense love and affection towards them ,would ever name their children as "jihad"
p.s.
love to Merke and all the "piece-keepers" (ie : the americans)---- u guys are awesome!... you made poverty, hunger and suffering vanish from the world by being so selfless. Despite your soldiers killing innocent civillians and afganistan, iraq and so on
With your sort of comment and your countrymen' s actions are you surprised that the flood appeal fell on deaf ears?
what country men?...and what actions?.. and who made the appeal? - the 'deaf ears' only made our politicians a bit less rich :)... no harm done to us. your money is good only in your pockets--- no help needed here :-* .
Need anyone wonder why there is such vicious behavior in this world?
Get a life you trailer trash bigots.........remember that someday Jihad will be in the majority in Western society.
Yes, I know that you see yourselves as better than jihad and his mom and that is why you judge.
Your turn is coming.