Website offers cow killing options for tastier beef

wow yumeeeeeeeeeeee, it's getting easier to live in this country as a Muslim German :)

Well, I live in Germany, I'm a Christian-born Portuguese, and I've always loved a good beef.

Somehow that makes me a Muslim just because I appreciate variety (ostrich meat, horse meat, lamb)?

I've heard just the opposite, that making an animal run for its life to the point of exhaustion makes the meat succulent and tasty.

@ma515 - No, adreneline in the meat makes it almost unedible.

What I am trying to figure out is why they are "stunning" the cattle before shooting it. Are they that bad at shooting? My mom's butcher field-slaughter a ram that was killing lambs. He charged the butcher, was hsot and went down like a rock. The cattle isn't even charging.

We are the living graves of murdered beasts

Slaughtered to satisfy our appetites

We never pause to wonder at our feasts

If animals, like men, can possibly have rights

We pray on Sundays that we may have light

To guide our footsteps on the path we tread

We're sick of war. We do not want to fight

The thought of it now fills our hearts with dread

And yet we gorge ourselves upon the dead

Like carrion crows we live and feed on meat

Regardless of the suffering and pain

We cause by doing so. If thus we treat

Defenseless animals for sport or gain

How can we hope in this world to attain

The PEACE we say we are so anxious for

We pray for it o'er hecatombs of slain

To God, while outraging the moral law

Thus cruelty begets its offspring: war.

We Are The Living Graves of Murdered Beasts

By George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)

Meat is murder!

Tasty, tasty murder!!

"When a human being kills an animal for food, he is neglecting his own hunger for justice. Man prays for mercy, but is unwilling to extend it to others. Why then should man expect mercy from God? It is unfair to expect something that you are not willing to give."

—Isaac Bashevis Singer, writer and Nobel laureate (1902­1991)

"Truly man is the king of beasts, for his brutality exceeds theirs. We live by the death of others: we are burial places! I have from an early age abjured the use of meat, and the time will come when men such as I will look on the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men."

Leonardo da Vinci

¦quot;Spiritual progress does demand at some stage that we should cease to kill our fellow creatures for the satisfaction of our bodily wants.¦quot; -Gandhi

"Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet. " Albert Einstein

May all that have life be delivered from suffering.

See yourself in Others - Buddha

The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men. - Leonardo Da Vinci

A man can be healthy without killing animals for food: therefore, if he eats meat, he participat­es in taking animal life merely for the sake of his appetite. - Leo Tolstoy

I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it. - Abraham Lincoln

Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for the survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet. - Albert Einstein

Animals are my friends... and I don't eat my friends. - George Bernard Shaw

"Be the change you want to see in the world." There are many problems in the world we can't change, but with every meal, we have the power to create lasting positive change.

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." - Mahatma Ghandi.

"Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of a person or animal is at stake. Society's punisments are small compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way". - Martin Luther King, JR.(Many people don¦#39;t realize that his wife, Correta and son Dexter are both vegan).

Veganism and vegetarianism sounds so moral and all, but I have to ask where you get most of your protein and nutrients. Oh no not the protein question?! Yes I was vegetarian and vegan for 10 and 4 years, respectively, and I hated that question. But after learning local farming, I see that most vegetarians/vegans (as I did) buy their protein from lentils, soy, beans and dairy. Next time you do, check/research where it's grown. No soy or lentils in Germany/Europe and very few beans from Germany. Is it really morally better to not eat meat and then ship your special diet half-way around the world? It's unbelievable how privileged an action that is. And dairy is such a joke as a peaceful alternative to meat. Milk is for the babies, so we need more babies for milk. There's not enough cows/sheep for the amount of milk/cheese that you want to eat so that you can be morally fit. The cows have to be killed or there would be a huge abundance of cows for the amount of milk/cheese needed, all eating fodder or grass instead of milk. It's basic natural science or visit any dairy farmer (from traditional to demeter,bio-dynamic). Really, eating cheese is killing cows or destroying the forest for more pasture land. Extremes are so rich in civilization, veganism or mcdonalds. Local eating habits are our non-theoretical balance. We see what we can eat, when it's here. It's creative, sustainable and it worked long before globalized trade and loud-mouth mostly male philosophers from cities preached. You don't see any vegans in Inuit culture, right? Each culture adapts to it's surroundings and has a connection to what it changes, both for life and death. For me in Germany, lots of fruits and veggies, some bread/grains and a little meat from my own garden or the local providers. -from a 28 year old man

In my opinion Democracy is preached with tongue with the spirit of Humanitarianism but ceases to exist just for the taste of it!

In India,during the age of Vedic Revelations, cow (Sanskrit=Gow-'g' pronounced with rounded 'o') was considered the basic 'Standard' both for sustaining biological human economy supplying with nourishing milk as well as transactional finance with numbers. Hence cow is highly revered by Hindus as Mother Goddess and never slaughtered

The end (sans.= anta) of Vedas is followed by clarifications in various forms known as 'Vedanta' to which the Upanishads belong. Web explains details.

To understand how Democracy and Humanity are defined and explained, an Upanishadic dictum declares " Hunger is Death". It means hunger is appeased by food and food is preceded by death. The underlying common basis is 'Life'. It is the sacrifice of life of one form that sustains that of another. Also it implies that only life supports and sustains life, irrespective of physical form.

Coming to human application, the spirit of democracy is recognition of the absolute freedom of life in natural order. However this spirit instantly evaporates when a man is faced with a tiger in forest. Every 'body' defends 'life' within itself and fears its premature loss before lapsing into natural death. This fact is common to both animal and man. Out of sheer self preserving fear the predator pounces upon man and in similar vain man defends himself by use of a fire arm. If the tiger wins, its ordained natural food is ready with an exclusive new taste and may turn him as a man eater. More than mostly man wins and saves his life and also the choiced spirit of democracy.

Humans are natural herbivores and carnivores.by 'choice' and hence the appeal for democracy as a humanitarian consideration. Whether one slices a pumpkin or butchers a goat to prepare food, the law is same but the choice is different. Therefore the natural order provides both nutrition and immunity to disease while flesh promotes nourishment of flesh only with reduced immunity to disease..

I trust that it will interest Germans to know what Hitler said to Curtis P. Freshel in 1921. Freshel and his wife were American vegetarians visiting Germany.

They had been guests of Lord and Lady Hamilton, vegetarians, who gave them several names of German vegetarians. Through those German vegetarians Mr. and Mrs. Freshel met Hitler. It is said these days, in vegetarian circles, that Hitler was not a vegetarian. Nonsence. He was a strict lacto/ovo vegetarian. When I met Curtis Freshel in 1960, his first words to me were, "Why are you a vegetarian?" He asked Hitler the same question. According to Freshel, Hitler responded, "I am a vegetarian for the same reason Richard Wagner was a vegetarian. If you want to know why I am a vegetarian read what Wagner had to say about the subject. Wagner is my God."

True, Hitler is not a good advertisement for vegetarianism. However, the evidence seems overwhelming that he was a vegetarian. He was not a vegan. He ate eggs and milk, and had a leather coat and boots, used lambs' fur, etc. His understanding of Wagner's message was very limited.

Holy Kamoly, what's all the beefing about? Let me have a grilled, thick cut 22 oz Porterhouse, rare please. And no, I don't care how you kill it as long as it's humane.