February 7, 2012
Published: 1 Dec 09 12:30 CET
Updated: 1 Dec 09 14:50 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/society/20091201-23645.html
Germany’s Constitutional Court on Tuesday ruled Berlin’s liberal opening hours for shops were unconstitutional, agreeing with Christian churches that Sundays must be protected from allegedly wanton consumerism.
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Why are shops held up to be such a holly cow??? Restaurants, petrol stations, trains, taxis, airports, emergency services, swimming pools, buses, cinemas, theatres, pubs, to name a few. OK for these heathens to work, but not shop employees....................see you in church..NOT!
Unfortunately we don't live in a free world. Religious beliefs still continue to dictate to the rest of us what we can or can't do.
As pointed out it is the hypocrasy they I find funny. Some things are allowed to operate on Sundays but others are not. If it's so important it should be all or nothing. I'm sure God doesn't compromise ;-)
What about the sanctity of the religious days of non christians (I know it's a Catholic country don't flame me) ? Shouldn't they be protected as well in this case?
Shop sales wille the same whatever as if we need it we will buy it when they are open. Unless of course the shops want to open on Sundays to catch out the week willed who will impulse buy something they dont really need??
Keep up the good work, I just wish we could stand up to our retailers in the same way!
I would like to think that if more businesses were closed on Sundays, it would allow families to spend more time together. In case you haven't seen it, the disintegration of families and family time has led to far too strong individualism - not independence - and everyone believes the world must revolve around their wants. This attitude has resulted in even a person's immediate family becoming second-rate.
All this is not to say that shopping on Sundays is the "bad guy" here, but when the focus shifts to "me" instead of to family, friends and others, a country loses its group focus, its ability to establish principles that make it strong and worth fighting for, and its people become merely a number, a tax revenue source and a commodity. While many churches may have the wrong idea of spirituality or they may have a wrong view of God or the Bible, the one thing they have in common is that they foster a sense of unity and family.
When the government then says they are trying to improve the unity of the country by encouraging unity of the family by continuing a practice that supports these, what is the problem?
I don't understand the "let's keep Sunday quiet" lobby either. Nobody is forcing you to go shopping on a Sunday - but leave those of us alone who might like to. I don't see why anyone should dictate to me "when" I have my time off. I'd like to chose that myself, thank you.
Mind you, it's likely to be years and a huge shift in deep seated thinking before anything does happen - don't forget, this is the country where quite between 1pm and 3pm is almost holy and it is illegal to mow your lawn on a Sunday.
Having the shops open isn't going to force you to go shopping. If it's not peaceful enough then go to another area. You still have the freedom to choose what you do with your time. I, on the other hand, do not have the freedom to choose to go shopping on a Sunday.
The disintegration of families is not caused by Sunday shopping :-) As parents it is our duty to bring up our children properly not the governments. If I cannot raise my children so well because shops are open on Sundays I must be a pretty poor parent. I can CHOOSE to spend time with my family still.
nothing to stop people enjoy a quiet day even if the shops are open. This is what I don't understand in the whole argument. People are still free to relax if they choose to.
For others it would be good to have a choice to go shopping if they so decide. It doesn't impact those that don't choose to.
Let people make their own choices ....
I work away from home so only have the weekend available o me to do shopping, see friends, do housework and any DIY etc I might have to do. Wouldn't it be great if I could choose to do some of those things on a Sunday instead of being dictated to that I have to do those on a Saturday?
Sometimes it's about neccessity not desire. Long live freedom of choice !
Personally I don't mind the shops being closed on a Sunday, it is a family day. But I do object to shops closing on a Saturday that may fall on a bank holiday, only then deciding to open on a holy Sunday to make up for loss earnings.
As for driving on the right, it isn't right. In Medieval and feudal times (thats a long long time ago to our American cousins ;-) ) Knights used to pass each other on the left because most people are right handed, therefore your sword arm was closest to your enemy. Napoleon was left handed, so he made everyone else go against common sense and pass on the right.
The bells comment is classic.... I totally agree and I live next to a church... 25min every Sunday like clockwork
It's not about bad planning. It's not about quality of life. It's about freedom of choice and not being dictated to based on other peoples outdated principles and superstitions.
It's not about making more money for the retail chains. Economically they wouldn't neccessarily benefit. Their sales MAY see an increase but their overheads increase disproportionately more so. Customer spending has a ceiling but the facility and salary costs would be additional.
Moreover, I find it difficult to understand that this law applies to certain type of shops but not to others, so restaurants, drinking holes, gas stations and others can stay open on Sundays. Plus, now that I work in an office full time, I would like to be able to choose whereas I should run my errands and do my shopping on Saturday or Sunday. I find in Berlin where maybe people have a social life on Friday night and Saturday, that Sunday would be the perfect day to do . Plus we're not talking about spending the entire day in shops, I am sure that people here are adult enough to manage their own free time without the help of the Church and the State, thank you very much!
in the States the shops open 24x7, and churches are always full!!!
i love to go to church on Sunday, i also love to be able to buy something on Sunday too, if i need it?
I also find it appalling that the German government aides in the tithing of money for the church by withholding from the paycheck, but I imagine this reaction is not uncommon for most Americans, even with the rise of the right wing. It is this kind of institutionalized snake oil sales that makes me want to call up a few friends and claim a visitation by our own personal prophets in need of profit.
In the current economy it sounds like they are shooting themselves in the foot, but in the big picture it promotes relaxation, forces people be organized and plan ahead, and sets up a reliable constant in everyone's week where they can count on having time to accomplish things.
It is too bad Christendom had to be the one to force it in the courts.
Sunday shopping might benefit the retailers, might benefit those who can't shop other days, but there is always the internet! Something which one sales person in MediaMarkt obviously knew when a customer asked if they could explain more about a Digital SLR camera he was interested in, reply was "if you want to know more, look on Google"!!! I felt like saying, "yes and while you do, check out preisvergleich and you'll find it 20% cheaper to buy online". What an idiot!
If you live in the city center as I do, then having one day a week where there isn't the constant din of endless traffic and the frustrating congestion of pedestrians is a very wonderful thing. On Sundays, I can leave the apartment and the streets are QUIET. Go out on any other day of the week when the shops are open and it's loud and hectic and frazzles the nerves after a while. Perhaps I'm partially sensitive from having grown up in the quiet countryside, but I love German Sundays.
This is what some people here are talking about when they say it's nice having one day of relaxation.
However on the point of having a day off and it being sort of quiet, I can see the benefits.
Yeah, lame! Workers unions that are supportive of this referrendum...isn't that ironic. Here's another opportunity to work. Look Germany, you don't HAVE TO be open on Sunday. Also, have they heard of multiple shifts here? Just because the Edeka is open from 7am - 9pm doesn't mean that the employees have to work the ENTIRE TIME. Break it up in half! If EVERYONE works on a Tuesday from 9-5 when do you buy groceries, get your dry-cleaning, buy hardware to fix your "Fahrad?"
I understand the fight against consumerism, but having to leave the office at 4pm so that I can feed myself seems a little...well a pain-in-the-ass is what it is!
AAAAND I could work 8 hours a day on Saturday AND Sunday. It wasn't always fun, but the opportunity/flexibility to make some spending cash in my free time was great.
I guess you don't start working until you're 18 here? But then, who pays for that beer you're buying at the store when you're 16?
!! Ich verstehe nicht !!!
Hence Saturdays.
Yeah, on Saturdays from 8-noon when the ENTIRE COUNTRY is crammed into the Edeka, Aldi, or Lindl.
Not having a familie to spend time with on Sundays renders the whole concept pretty pointless to me.
I'd rather work at my office job Th, Fr, Sa, Su, & Mon, and take Tue & Wed off! In fact, I just might do that!
What a relief it is when we tour Germany in the summer and experience quiet, relaxed Sundays, just like England was in the good old days.
Sunday shopping is 'freedom' for some, but at the expense of good common sense and sound traditional values.