Published: 12 Mar 13 12:32 CET | Print version
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After a frustrating trip around Berlin on public transport, a British psychologist has re-designed the city's map. Max Roberts told The Local about how his creations are, he thinks, easier to use.
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Unless one has to consult insanely thick manuals to try and unlock the where abouts of the real uber topsecret guides for using the U and S bhan. It will be deemed a failure and said secrets were only revealed for the benefit of foreign infiltrators.
Sure, "your" map is fine -but the Berlin map is perfected for the people who live here and not to mention the people that visit often.
Why make a map to the confusing standards of a London map... your just making it it more difficult for the people who are already dealing with being kicked out of their houses and ripping out their historic walls! Just leave them alone... aren't these people going through enough already? Now you want to change their maps!?!?
Why can't you tourists just respect Berlin for what it is, rather than try to reform it in their eyes?
Thank you so much for validating my post.
Sorry could I see the old schematic diagram please .
Is that better :-)
It is pretty wild. You might go into a trance so don't be alone when you do it.
simply said: leave Berlin's "schematic diagram" alone, thanks.
I am from Berlin, I am German, I would love a new map!!
I am sorry ... no one I know, would react like "mialeftshoe" or "blake it up" ...
second account ... same person? just curious ;)
Never the less some of the alternatives seem to be pretty much the same thing we already have - with some rounded corners added. All of the design do not show the three tariff zones - I guess they seem to be more human readable as information is left away - but this is no valid option. Some designs are really different. As I am used to the existing map I find it quite hard to understand them (and as they are low-res of course). I probably could get used to a new design though.
So - after all this is a nice projecct and could deliver some interesting results. If they are really better? No idea...
By the way - regarding the discussion about Germans not willing to go for easier stuff. have a careful read of the article once again and watch for the following:
"But he added that he found that Berliners seemed less sentimental towards their map than for example, Londoners."
here is a interesting link to the network maps startet at 1914:
http://www.berliner-untergrundbahn.de/
The 2013 Map is a Map based on the 1990s Map. (There happend something in 1989, 1961,...)
Anyway, there is aa other big problem, in berlin are 5 systems operating together. u-Bahn (underground)(bvg), s-bahn (commuter)(db), re/rb (regional trains) (different operators), strassenbahn (Tram)(bvg), bus (bus)(bvg). bring all of these in one map. For the main lines there is a metronet. (bus/tram).
I think this is the real hard work, to build maps, in wich you can switch, easy from the whole to the fine detailed map. There are areas you can´'t reach with u/s/r.
aaaaaand, the berlins like the new things, but ihey dont show it, but they like it.
Its like the question:"Entschuldigen sie, welcher Bus ist denn das?""Der jelbe!"
Moreover, I come from a small town and we sure don't have the same transportation complexity over here. 'Cause you ate our "horsepower", remember?
Are you sure that this article isn't about psychologists needing help to work out that the diagram isn't a map? The professor should do as the original designers did; start with a map and draw the lines following the tracks.
London's tube map is notorious for being geographically embarrassing... following it makes you take 2 train chainges to reach a destination that is just across the road.
Such stick diagrams do not preserve proportions. They have no consistent scale. They can, at best, be generally indicative of direction.
They should also be as simple as possible. Recent editions of Berlin's have become cluttered with information useful to only a small proportion of people. A de-cluttered version, showing only the lines, stations and fare zones ... with the addition of indications of parking facilities at major stations, should be produced for general use.
Munich's S-Bahn diagrams show parking facilities. that is especially handy for cities where cars are no longer welcome. Berlin isn't yet so unfriendly.
@raandy - I don't feel threatened at all. I have several friends who work with DB and are Berlin train operators. They all agree with me when I say that this map does not take into consideration the RE lines and frequently used Bus lines (like TXL & 128). Not to mention, how complicated it would be with construction line notifications and elevator symbols for the handicapped. I know most countries don't care... but that's where Berlin is different from the rest -everything is taken into account when it comes to planning and organization... it's in the German blood.
To change the way the Berliners view the train system is the equivalent to replacing every coffee shop in Berlin with Starbucks so that every tourist can get their 'familiar taste of home'. -I think it's just the complete wrong way to go.
The professor's assumption that the BVG wouldn't be interested in using his work sounds a little presumptuous. But not having the fare zones and being expandable to include bus and tram etc. makes his project pretty much irrelevant anyway.
http://www.mta.info/maps/submap.html
It really is quite easy to navigate. Be sure to move the map up/down and sideways to get a full picture of all lines into Brooklyn, the Bronx, Queens, and the unconnected Staten Island Rapid Transit line.
Another NYC-area easy-to-navigate transit system is the PATH (Port Authority Trans-Hudson) from Newark, Jersey City, and Hoboken into New York. Here is a link to the map:
http://www.panynj.gov/path/maps.html
Again, these are offered only for comparison not criticism.