Published: 23 Jan 13 12:22 CET | Print version
Updated: 23 Jan 13 15:38 CET
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German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle said Wednesday that Berlin hoped Britain would stay in the European Union but rejected "cherry-picking," after David Cameron announced a referendum on the UK's membership.
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Er... The 'madmen of Brussels' cannot do anything unless they get a mandate from Cameron and the other elected leaders. It is not Brussels that Cameron faces but his counterparts in the other 26 countries.
The british can leave the EU. Fine... but I would like to see how they will react when their goods have to pay heftier import duties since they are not part of the EU. So that 20% they currently export to Germany will shrink fast!
Some may ask why it seems that Germany is calling the shots... well its mainly due to money.
'but I would like to see how they will react when their goods have to pay heftier import duties since they are not part of the EU.'
However as I've already pointed out, the UK is now Germany's 'biggest global' trading partner, according to yesterday's Telegraph - "It is one of the fastest growing trade relationships in the developed world. France lagged behind at €150bn as trade stagnated, with the US at €149bn and China at €115bn." - in Germany's favour, so I don't somehow see the Germans wanting to get into a game of tit for tat trade embargoes, in fact the telegraph is reporting - "Angela Merkel: we will seek EU compromise with Britain."
"Germany is ready to listen to Britain's "wishes" over the EU and will help find a compromise to stop it heading for the exit door, Angela Merkel has said."
I think DavyCrockett is right. His opinion is shared also by Labour leader Ed Miliband, who caracterised Mr. Cameron "as a weak prime minister, being driven by his party, not by the national economic interest ... The only thing that has changed since then (October 2011 - my note) is he has lost control of his party and is too weak to do what is right for the country" .
@ Steve Potts
"People in the UK are simply horrified by expected influx of Bulgarians and Romanians that will have the right to settle in the UK come January 2014" - Nothing new. Before May 2011 Germans were terrified by the huge wave of immigrants from 8, not 2 countries (Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Czech Republic, and Hungary). What happened? Nothing really, it was a matter of only couple of thousands. Which actually, in my opinion, helped Germany.
Or we can talk about a vote that may or may not come about in the future ,
what is this a clairvoyance convention?
Cameroon is reacting to the situation on the ground, the reality,which the people in the countries I mentioned above are facing. Ordinary people who are directly affected (negatively,I am sorry to say this) Cameroon`s sermon is long over due. They however see hope because at last one of the leaders who may put an end to their murmurings has came out to cash-talk.
Why should they suffer in silence for the name of EU?
For those of you who opt to sweep the problems with the EU under the carpet put on your protective gear on - now the time-bomb is ticking.
' A couple of thousands'
Well, the UK received about a million Poles in this wave and about half to 2/3 rds are still in the UK. I agree that the vast majority of the Poles do make a positive contribution to the UK economy and are hard working. The problem I'm trying to highlight is that the UK just cannot cope with large influxes of people and most Romanians and Bulgarians have 'English' not German or French as their second language so guess where they will be headed?
Really? So why not explain to the German electorate how wrong BILD have got things? The Greeks do have the right to complain and demonstrate.
I agree that the Romanians have probably the highest rate of non-native English speakers. However, the similar situation was with Germany and A8 countries. I remember trying to get information at the Information office within the main railway station in Budapest some 10 years ago. It did not work. The lady there spoke however German. In spite of language popularity, immigrants from A8 counties did not flooded Germany.
@ Enough
"these people are not held accountable to anyone not even voters" - Maybe you lack some information. For example, have you not heard of Ernst Strasser? The former European MP had to resign and now is doing 4 years jail time for what he had done during his term.
The Romanians are comming, oh lord... what is I gonna do... oh lord.
Why did they allowed this countries to join in the first place, if they didn't want to them, if they are so bad? They really don't get anthing in return? It was just out of the kindness of their hart?
Maybe Mr. Robert Schuman can help you:
"Our century, that has witnessed the catastrophes resulting in the unending clash of nationalities and nationalisms, must attempt and succeed in reconciling nations in a supranational association. This would safeguard the diversities and aspirations of each nation while coordinating them in the same manner as the regions are coordinated within the unity of the nation."
And you whould be surprised how many of us speak French and German as a second language.
Have a nice day,
Andrei
I am sure that, if the UK should leave the EU, the countries who remain in the EU will still want to trade with us, just as they want to trade with the US, China and the rest of the developed and developing world. The UK could have trading agreements with the EU like Switzerland, who has free access to the EU for certain goods and services, provided they adopt the regulations applicable to the production of those goods and services. But, of course, they would have no say in the formulation of such legislation.
On the other hand, there is a good chance that those international non-EU companies who have invested in the UK have done so partly because the UK is in the EU and partly because they understand the language. With the uncertainty that Cameron has caused, such companies may now reconsider their strategy and decide to transfer their UK operations to Poland or one of the Baltic states, where labour costs are lower.
It seems strange to me that people who have moved to work in Germany, with no or little German, should think that this would deter others from doing the same thing. In my experience, many of the Poles who came to work in the UK had little or no English. I have sat in a site induction where there were a dozen Poles of whom only one could understand what was being said to them and who had to translate for the others.
If Cameron really cared for the UK pubic the election would be BEFORE the next election, he then has the mandate to go to the EU and say "Here we go this is what the UK people want", this game of his is all about trying to keep his job for another 5 years, all he and his privately educated chums have done is wreck the UK even more, they blame everything on the unemployed and disabled people. Shame on Cameron and the tory twits.
9 countries in the EU are not happy with the current unaccountable Brussels model and have made it public for ages via background grumbling . The fog of the Eurozone crisis has blurred the EU debate as the banking regulations have been more important to those worried about their lending gravy train than opening up a timely review on the state of the union. What would be the result of a referendum in Germany if they ever had a choice?
London city only attracts money because it is deregulated more than other places and can walk closest to the legal / moral edge. (Every major city bank has been penalized for cheating in the last year - and that's just where they got caught.) Now what happens if all EEA countries can deregulate to whatever standard they feel like? Why shouldn't Oslo (just an example) just cream the city's milk? Before deregulation London was not a major financial center and if the rules for everywhere are loosened, it will lose its crown.
Same story with the social regulations. If all countries are free to screw-the-workers to any extent they want, the UK will quickly and easily be at a commercial disadvantage. Europe has many countries that would be quite happy in a free for all race to the bottom, the UK can only lose.
Have you forgotten Switzerland? their banks do o.k. without the €uro or the E.U..
Same can be said for workers right on paper Germany 's are fair but under closer look they can only be used with the backing of a lawyer and there is no legal aid ,is there anti-discrimination laws in Germany? ,jobs are often based on religion as is entry to ground schools and kindergartens .
What about the case of the rape victim and hospitals? ,sometimes the U.K. gets it right as well as wrong.
I hope the U.K. stays but I and many agree that the E.U. is corrupt and undemocratic in its present for and needs a shack up and a reality check .
Switzerland used to be the world's banker but only because they were less regulated than elsewhere, they really walked on the wild side. Once that changed the decline began - "they do OK" is very poor compared to what they used to do.
The UK is a leader in new ways of doing things because it is very easy to start and stop major ideas there - all it takes is the right personalities behind them whereas in Germany buy-in bogs down many good ideas; although once ideas start, they have a better chance of finishing. This means many high profile failures in the UK but also many more original successes than most places.
Cameron was right about many things including who Europe's competitors will be in the next decades, that changes are needed in the EU, that this is recognized and changes are coming in a new treaty. The question we disagree on is how to achieve the goals. His tenet is that a looser organization can react quicker - the British way - and that this is obviously best so the EU must do has he says or he'll lead the UK out. This is actually not obvious at all but the silly idea that Britain has THE answer is counter-productive in the first place. Not only does THE answer not exist but it is the consensus matters not THE answer.
Though, actually, I suspect that Cameron knows all this but, in the absence of any other external threats (where is Galtieri when you need him), he must manufacture fear uncertainty and doubt about the UK's relation with Europe to swing voters in the "Scotland in the UK" referendum towards the status quo.
On many point we are in agreement ,but as to banking the U.K. and Switzerland are full of regulation compered with the middle and far east.
Why did not this regulation mentality help German's second largest bank? or will the job cut make it more competitive ?.
The banks need pulling into line no question but so does the common agricultural policy ,the building programs paid for by the E.U. .
The banking services are a major employer in the U.K. whereas small farms receive E.U. funding in France ,Germany and many of the less developed new members does this not seem a little unfair?
The E.U. needs major reform but nobody wants to grasp the nettle ,why two different cities for meetings the cost of moving is sky high ,yet nothing changes ,why should the budget rise unless we can see clearly where the money is spent .When will they tell us Turkey is joining (unless they don't want to ) and I said tell us not ask us ,there is no democracy within the E.U. .