Published: 27 Feb 12 17:11 CET | Print version
Updated: 27 Feb 12 18:39 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/politics/20120227-41017.html
German lawmakers voted overwhelmingly Monday to endorse a second multi-billion euro lifeline to avert a Greek bankruptcy which Chancellor Angela Merkel warned would entail incalculable risks.
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The only reason I can figure for chancellor Pantsuit to want to risk/throwaway German taxpayer money is to further the kommie cause of kollectivism/unification. Kollectivism/unification of nations, will inevitably fail as it always does. The EU is furthering it's goal of becoming USSR II and will get the same results as USSR I.
This women, I'd call her a lady if she wore dresses, is an idiot of colossal proportions, though not so colossal as our own president Downgrade.
There is nothing negative about loaning money, to someone who is actually in a position to repay. At some point, a lender will become an enabler.
Surely it's better to solve problems through a restructure, than to shower it will large sums of money. When will humans realize that money USUALLY is not the best solution? Are the rich and famous not miserable too?
Another way of looking at it is to assume that many clever people are attempting a job that nobody has ever attempted before in the interests of most people affected. Sure, there are unforeseen problems, some even forseen and ignored, but when making major changes you must sometimes just do things and fix any problems later. The result is to never move on.
The EU and Euro are a long way from perfect. However, those that remember the times before consider today's crises quite tame to constant sword rattling, trade wars, currency limits, exchange rip-offs, an inability to compete with superpowers etc etc
'as always, and this is the cancer stage of capitalism'
Wrong. as always, this is the Cancer stage of socialism and collectivism. it will most certainly lead to revolution, but the Revolution will be waged against the idiocy that is the EU. and the counter-revolutionaries such as yourself won't put up much of a fight.
I hope that all this will bring some much needed assistance as they try to change their system but I can't see a fast fix at the moment.
I don't think Germany and France should rule the government of Greece; however, I'd like to see an international organization globalize the collection of taxes for all countries--level the tax code for everyone. This would solve many of the problems the Greeks are now having. From what I see, the biggest problem for Germans is that there well off greeks are just not paying their fair share... and the rest of the EU is suppose to pick up this slack.
I don't think the EU should bail out Greece. They will be coming back for a 3rd loan next year, I guarantee it! I understand the need for "austerity" measures (although, I think it's more of a ... get your house in order and balance your checkbook type of thing). It's like a parent and child... when the child runs up a huge credit card bill. Does the parent just keep paying the bill? Or does the parent make the child learn from his/her mistakes and get them on a financially responsible path? The Greeks have acted and are acting like impetuous children. I think this loan is just putting a bandaid an deeper illness--and I don't think Germany nor France are equipped to be a "parent"--nor should they be! Compusive debting, lying and an overblown sense of entitlement is what drove Greece to this state. I just don't hold much hope for Greece turning itself around. In the bigger picture, it's a small country--better to let them default and boot their arses out. Let them figure it out on their own.
Except Merkel?
I wonder if parliament will be so enthusiastic for the next inevitable bailout?
But watch the pressure ,the threats,and the bribes start before they get the chance.
Fifteen MPs from her coalition defied her in a September 29 vote on beefing up the eurozone's rescue fund and around a dozen lawmakers had indicated they might stick to their guns in Monday's vote."
This is embarrassing. Get your numbers right.
The coalition has 330 MPs, not 311.
311 is the overall majority in the house because there are 620 MPs in the Bundestag.
29 MPs were not present and didn't vote.
Of those 29 MPs 6 are members of the coalition, 23 sit with the opposition.
620 minus 29 is 591. So the majority needed is 296.
"Yes" votes from the coalition: 304.
Conclusion: Merkel didn't need a single vote from the opposition.
Not even the number fifteen is correct.
"No" votes from the coalition: 17
"Abstention" votes from the coalition: 3
On the other hand, I find it rather interesting that for the last 6 months the media and the politicians are obsessed and over reporting the 130 billion euros "Greek" bailout while at the same time they have hardly reported that ECB just provided 530 billion euros bailout to EU banks in addition to 489 billion euros in December.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17203134
So in just two months, the ECB provided 1019 billion euros (i.e. our tax money) to the EU banks and there is hardly any discussion. In contrast, there was a 6-month frenzy about the 130bn "Greek" bailout? Why? The question is rhetorical of course.