July 30, 2010
Published: 28 Sep 09 17:36 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/politics/20090928-22217.html
Guido Westerwelle, Germany’s newly designated foreign minister, refused to answer a question in English for a BBC reporter during his first press conference after the election, news magazine Der Spiegel reported on Monday.
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Must be an early attempt to discredit the new foreign minister. At least he offered to meet the reporter afterwards to discuss the question further. At least give him credit for that.
Guido as party leader trying to clown around and get attention while his party is deep in the woods of the opposition might be willing to chat in English here and there but no national politician is going to speak in a foreign language at a press conference. duh. behind closed doors sure but not when put on the spot like that. When I saw it on TV I thought the silly Beeb reporter was being kind of ass.
ELDR Conference: Guido Westerwelle
Still, fair play to the guy for having a good go at nailing the "I can go where I want and speak to whoever I want - even to a guy who is overnight one of Europe's key politicians - and they should speak English because I want them to" conceit.
With English being one of the major 2nd/3rd languages, what would it have hurt to answer in English. I'm sure all the other German reporters would have understood
what was being asked/said anyway.
As for the Obama/Spanish comment, he does speak Spanish, and has answered questions in Spanish when asked. Whats the big deal.. If you speak/understand
the lang. then use it.
The time used to berate the reporter could have been used to just answer the question. If he had, then
there would be no headlines.
From my point of view he just has qualified himself as the future foreign minister. After all he is supposed to represent germany. Everyone knows we are rude and arrogant. So he´s a perfect fit.
The Reporter needed to do what he did AND inform the Press of the International Standard period! Just because he is a Native Englisch speaker does not give the Speaker license to ridicule. The analogy does not work anywhere in any other country but Native Englisch countries.
The FDP showed their Ass first day into the next 4 interesting anti-immigrant filled years...
It was a German news conference and the language is German.
If this is a problem, I suggest a German reporter pose a question, in German, to Obama or Brown at their next news conference. Do you think they will respond in German?
They frame their question in Englisch, like everyone else in the room if they do not have an interpreter.
Again your argument is true only in English speaking lands, all other lands use English too as a form of communication among the Press in news conferences.
The anti-immigrant sentiments of the T(r)ight wing politicians could in the very least be covered up with diplomacy...
As to the behavior of the Reporter, everyone knows in Germany that ALL official business is ALWAYS done in German. He merely wanted to Goat the Speaker and solicite a reaction. He got what he wanted, he was an Ass for his cheap shot.
Our soon-to-be foreign Minister had an opportunity to conduct himself with dignity or take it personally and react, he blew it. I am sure he will review himself and present a more level handed image in the future. Even though his feelings have been elicited and his true colors revealed, he will recover his image.
Actually, not. Many of my students work for German companies where the internal and external communication language is English. Oh, and you don't "goat" a speaker, you "goad" them.
Be that as it may - I think it is perfectly reasonable to expect a future Foreign Minister to be able to speak such an important trade language as English. And I'm sure the journalist wasn't being a berk or an ass, just naturally expecting the Minister to be able to respond in kind.
And as for the discussion above about leaders speaking languages, the Australian Prime Minster, Kevin Rudd, speaks fluent Mandarin.
Oh, and Angie does speak English, and very competently too.
Maybe this is all so exciting because of this sense that "in German we speak German". Well, derr. But on the international stage it's quite a different matter. And let's not forget the six official languages of the UN: Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian, and Spanish. Westerwelle should be lucky he was only asked a question in English!
PM Rudd speaks Mandarin because he was a diplomat posted to China. That also means he has strong foreign language learning capabilities since Manadarin is very difficult for native English speakers. Not everyone has strong foreign language capabilities.
As for DK's claim that Obama speaks Spanish and has answered questions in Spanish in public, that's news to me, and I frankly doubt it. If Hillary Clinton could hold a news conference in a foreign language, it would be news to me as well. Of course, Madeline Albright and Condoleeza Rice did have that level of ability.
I really hope that they abandon that silly tradition of handing the office of foreign minister to the coalition partner. It may be a nice job for the person in office but it is completely useless for advancing a political agenda. The ministers of the Interior, Finance, Justice and several others are far more important on the national and even on the European stage.
My German is marginal at best, although I'm trying to improve. When I'm in the country, I try to use it when I can, but a lot of what I need isn't in the typical vocabulary of "conversational German" courses. So, I try to politely ask if the person speak English. Almost without exception, they do, and their English is far better than my German.
The one exception to this was at the archiv in Berlin. There was a wonderful woman there who spoke English and was more than willing to assist me. However, she was the receptionist. When I went to the department to ask for the documents I needed, the man refused to even work with me, and although I filled out the paperwork in German, I never heard back. When I asked if the woman might help by translating, he stormed off.
In my case, officials can be "official" if it suits them.
Should he have answered the question? It depends. He could have, and most people would have cut him some slack if his English isn't perfect. Clearly his proposed position would be enhanced by knowing the language, but that's not an absolute requirement I suspect. In the end, it's a tempest in a tea cup.
Simple as that.
So I'm not really sure what the reporter tried to achieve, would kind of expect that from someone from the Sun but not really from the bbc.
he should be able to present his questions in german, since sometimes there are a lot of people there who don't speak english anyway!
And, yes, German IS an international language-- it's one of the most popular throughout East and South Asia, not only in China (where the business community often speaks it quite well) and its old strongholds in Korea and Japan, but increasingly in Vietnam, Thailand, even in India. (Germans and Austrians are now able to get contract work, instructing native Indian teachers or going to teach the language themselves.) Germany for now is more or less the center of green tech with a lot of the best innovation in it, and the core of the EU. Plus, the Asians love those German classical composers, philosophers and inventors-- a more traditional culture in that way. German's also big in South America (the German car companies alone are a big factor), and of course in Eastern Europe where it's a critical language.
For my own work in East Asia (solar panels and wind tech), the main language is increasingly Mandarin Chinese, for obvious reasons-- China's the main trading partner, has millennia of history with the countries in the region, and despite the authoritarianism they still have there, seems in the minds of many to have a more sustainable (and less rapacious to its own people) economic model than the USA, even giving recent emphasis to green tech and a health care safety net. 15 years ago, just about all the international conferences in the region were in English. Now, they're in a gaggle of languages but increasingly in Chinese-- even in places like Thailand, Korea, and Malaysia-- or occasionally in Japanese. (Fortunately for us Westerners, they've figured out how to put up their slides in pinyin rather than just the Chinese characters so it's not as scary to look at as before.)
The nasty truth of the matter, is that the United States just isn't looked up to much anymore in the East Asian region in particular-- they increasingly see us as not only cruel to our own people (the health care mess is being followed by EVERYBODY these days) and overmilitarized, but also so overwhelmed by predatory and crony capitalism, and immigration levels that we truly can't handle, that our model is unsustainable for any country that wants to hold together. Foreign students from China and Korea who used to study in the USA, are balking these days with good reason-- they don't want to be forced into indentured servitude if they wind up sick and have to go to a US emergency room! Hopefully this will change soon, and if we can reform our system a little they'll restore some of their confidence-- but they need to see real results, and a more humane place overall, for our reputation to regain some of the luster that we need to attract them.
He's making fun of the Englishman here because he feels embarrassed about his poor English.
Of course he should speak English. Regardless of whether or not he was given this position by default or not, he is still the Foreign Minister. eventually Germany has got to learn to get along with "Foreigners."
This arrogant response to his own inadequacy is so typical here (Germany) it's not surprising the world "loves" Germans.
Who else will respect and promote you and your language if your people will not do it themselves.
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He was speaking to the people who elected him. Foreign correspondents should have realised that.
Still, if you don't feel utterly secure, answering questions of the press in a foreign language is risky. Better to remain silent and let people assume that you might be a fool, than to speak and remove all doubts.
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Would you expect him to be able to answer a question asked in Urdu or Japanese?
It is not the job of a Foreign Minister to pander to the press of a foreign country but to represent his own country.
Most of the press there were German and it would be difficult for them, if they didn't know English, to follow up with a question or even make the mistake of asking the same one that the BBC reporter did. Also maybe incite a lot of discussion there on what the translation of the question and answer were.
By the looks of it I think he weighed all the options and probably chose the option that would benefit everyone.
"...but this is Germany here"
shows how un-charming and how un-diplomatic he is. He is playing the patriotic card, but patriotism is out (thanks to Bush). I wonder whether he will make a good foreign minister for Germany.
Not that it is in any way relevant, but does Steinmeyer speak English? I've never heard him speaking anything other than German.
They frame their question…
By God, before you know it, they?ll ruin those All-American names like Chicago, Manchester, Berlin, and Milwaukee.
By the way, I really like the city of Bismarck. Kind of surprising that the name survived two world wars without being changed to Freedomtown.
It does not mean he/she is a nationalist or refuses an other language too.
But some people who have a broad minded and wanted to good communication all over the world prefers to speak in those languages, which he / she speaks practically in the daily life.
As a human being we should have to understand each other for bringing harmoney, peace, love, respect and good behaviours in a positive views.
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Westerwelle answered well. The English love a good cup of tea. Offering a stein would have been so obvious ... this is Germany here.
The man is genius.
German is pretty insignificant as an international language so it shouldn't really come as surprise that foreign correspondents don't speak it. That said, i think it was well within reason that he refused to answer in English.
Perhaps the Beeb should reconsider its priorities if it can't cover an event like the German election with a couple of German speaking journalists, as the election was hardly a sudden and unexpected event.
It is the height of arrogance to field a question in a German news conference in English. It was quite correct of him to refuse to answer it. For some of you guys to accuse him of arrogance is rather hypocritical.
The arrogance of some English speakers knows no bounds.
The guy is in his home country, giving a press conference in German. As other people pointed out, it's potentially dangerous to speak publicly in your non-mother tongue. Nuances could end up causing gaffes, and seeing as there's alot of media attention on this case - a perfectly normal situation - gaffes in this modern day assfuck known as "the media" are the last thing a person wants.
so good for Westerwelle. Although I found him to be a bit overboard. He could have said something in english to make light of it like "I just got the job, so I think for now I would prefer to answer in German."
It could have been a funny, light-hearted moment, but this is Germany and self-deprecation equals death.
And Why?? , When you get an international position , the first and basic thing is that you are able to COMMUNICATE , and that you will be measured for every single angle. And the first metric he got in public , is just really really bad.
It is hardly an outragous demand to expect a major broadcaster like the Beeb to send someone who can speak the language to cover a national election.
Can anyone imagine the ARD or the ZDF to send a correspondent to Paris, Rome, Madrid or to London, for that matter, who asks a local key politician in a national post election conference a question in German and demands to be answered in German as well? It´s not hard to imagine the uproar in the British press if ze arrogant Germans dared to do something like that in London?
Perhaps Westerwelle might have been more charming in his reaction but the journalist was well out of line.
I'm fluent in German, but our official language at work is English. If I'm presenting to a big audience in a meeting being conducted in English, and someone stands up and asks me a question in German (it's actually happened to me), my first thought is "this is some troll trying to trip up the auslaender gast/fremdarbeiter in front of a live audience". I employed exactly the same sort of thing Westerwelle appeared to ("last time I checked, our official corporate language is English, and as a courtesy to our non-German-speaking colleagues (of which there are a few), I'm going to continue in English if you don't mind"). Then I'd find out who the guy was, summon him into my chambers and give him a proper bollocking in German.
C'mon. The Bush-appointee American ambassador to Germany didn't speak a word of German. The new one does.
When using interpreters, the "body language" is not conveyed. Rather important.
How easy is it to learn the english language , for refugees, immigrants? and even ... Politicians who have more important tasks to attend to.
Only a neutral auxiliary language, easy to learn, error-proof, taught in all primary schools in every country, would provide our descendants with a tool for inter-national communication, whilst respecting and ensuring the continuity of all national tongues, dialects, idioms within each ethnic group.
One of the objections cited by Education Authorities to the teaching of such a language is : there is no demand from any ethnic community, no evidence of student interest. When the roman numerals were replaced by the Hindu-Arabic numerals, had the education authorities waited for public demand we would still be making long divisions with M, D, C, L, X, V, I... what fun ! In the musical world, if each member of an international orchestra read his partition in his/her own language, could harmony be achieved? Maybe it is time for Educators to take the lead in the communication area. ..
English is often suggested as the international language. English is an elegant language, it would be a pity to see it disintegrating into englishes and being spoken badly by non-native english users. To preserve its integrity, we should protect it from splitting up as Latin did.
Of course, there have been many attempts at "simplifying" English; what would become of the treasures of literature?
However, spoken and written english are dismally dissimilar, which adds to the difficulty for students learning it as a second language.
There have also been many attempts at inventing an international language. Esperanto is at present gaining ground . It is very popular in Korea, Japan, China, Bresil, Canada; surprisingly welcome in parts of the U.S.A., and getting known in Africa. In Europe, whilst Finland was hosting the E.U. it had been added to the list of languages used to publish reports.
However, spoken and written english are dismally dissimilar, which adds to the difficulty for students learning it as a second language.
There have also been many attempts at inventing an international language. Esperanto is at present gaining ground . It is very popular in Korea, Japan, China, Bresil, Canada; surprisingly welcome in parts of the U.S.A., and getting known in Africa. In Europe, whilst Finland was hosting the E.U. it had been added to the list of languages used to publish reports.
Esperanto is rejected by some educators as being "artificial". The vocabulary is based mainly on latin, greek, german, russian, slav... hardly artificial. (And, come to think of it, aren't cars "artificial horses" ? shoes are not natural either, should we travel exclusively on bare feet to be "natural" ?) - Phonetic, carefully compiled, Esperanto is logical, free of the exceptions, inconsistencies, irregular verbs, and traps inherent in, say, english or french for example. It has a definite propaedeutic value, encouraging the learner and boosting confidence, as what one learns today is not contradicted tomorrow; it is a "bridge" to the acquisition of more languages. In a multi-language group (of esperantistes of course) it is like a multi-national dictionary in everybody's brains!
Here are a few sites with useful information :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YHALnLV9XU A Belgian linguist talks about it.
http://www.2-2.se/en/ written by a swedish doctor in medicine, Hans Malv,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaedeutic_value_of_Esperanto Here are depicted several experiments.
We often hear of "many millions" needed to teach local literacy, let alone foreign languages. Much time, effort and money, could be saved and employed for more beneficial ends.
Even if students never subsequently use Esperanto, their new knowledge of etymology, their practise of logic, and a positive experience with language makes the exercise worthwhile. They can make use of it however, and they will never lack confidence in travelling to non-english speaking regions, they will be able to learn other Native languages much more effectively and will benefit from the goodwill generated by going halfway, with an easy neutral language, when conversing internationally.
By using a non national, auxiliary tongue, quick and easy to learn because it has been logically compiled, speakers are on an equal basis, no one is embarrassed at lacking the facility of expression of their interlocutor. There is no rivalry between father-tongues. Everyone keep their own, and none gets cancelled out as by a dominant language. AND for a change english-born-speakers also have to co-operate.
Her Majesty speaks French but now well - I've heard her: "Vous connez". Get the idea?
I shuddered.
I meant to say, "Her Majesty speaks French but not well."
I suspect the BBC reporter did not actually know for sure, at the time he asked the question, if Hr Westerwelle was fluent in English, but he simply asssumed he was. Oh well...
And why is he even commenting on this? Doesn't he have enough to do at Germany's diplomatic front line that he's speaking for the Swiss?
The BBC reporter could ask in English(thats why there are interpreters) but he cannot demand from the Foreign Minister to respond in English. This is an outlandish lack of respect and complete lack of professionalism. Westerwelle's response to the untactful reporter to my judgment was pretty witty: if you like we can talk later in English but at this moment this is business and the official language of this place -which happens to be located in Germany-is German. I think he handled the case nicely. Imagine a reporter from France to demand from Blair who speaks some French to respond in French! !! It is about time for some English speakers to get over the illusion that English is the language of the world and it is everybody's duty to speak English. Thats why I like Americans , they stubbornly refuse to speak English.