Published: 12 Feb 13 07:31 CET | Print version
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/opinion/20130212-47901.html
Conservatives should be glad when gay and lesbian couples want to get married, says Der Tagesspiegel's Malte Lehming, as it strengthens tradition. The UK has paved the way on gay marriage and Germany must now follow suit.
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To equate homosexuality with pedophilia is insulting, stupid and wrong.
Equally strange is to equate gay marriage with joining the €uro?
You are pontificating about a lost cause.Take two aspirin and think about it tomorrow.
There are many "wrong" things people do; I suspect you yourself practice many of them. However, living in a modern society means that we tolerate that.
If social conservatives and the Catholic church want a political fight of this, don't hold back. You'll find yourself on the losing end of this debate-objectively, morally, and politically. So, please go ahead: the sooner you people self-destruct, the better, as far as I'm concerned.
You're way off with your comment.
Marriage is for Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve.
Marriage is between opposite sex and not same sex.
It is not normal nor should it ever be regarded as normal.
No it isn't. Obama may support same-sex marriage but it is determined on the state level. Nine states permit; nine states prohibit. Not sure where the other 32 stand...
"President Barack Obama supported gay marriage - and won re-election."
That's not saying much given his competition came in the form of Mitt Romney.
Is it really only about love and mutual commitment? Or is there a legitimate basis for the exclusively heterosexual nature of marriage that has been the norm for all the thousands of years of recorded history?
In "What Is Marriage? Man and Woman: A Defense,¦quot; written by Sherif Girgis, Ryan Anderson, and Princeton professor Robby George, the authors write, "The health and order of society depend on the rearing of healthy, happy, and well-integrated children. That is why law, though it may take no notice of ordinary friendships, should recognize and support marriages.¦quot;
Gay-rights advocates claim that heterosexual marriage would not be harmed if gay marriage were legalized. But that¦#39;s not so. ¦quot;What Is Marriage?¦quot; meticulously details some of the critical social goods at risk if we go down the revisionist marriage road—gay or straight: real marital fulfillment, spousal well-being, child well-being, friendship, religious liberty, and limited government. These are not trivial matters! The book tells us why in masterful detail.
The issue revolves then around the question of whether we are self-directed or other-directed. Are society's best long-term interests promoted by supporting the essentially selfish goals of individuals, or will our "social contract" be better restored by promoting strong families through the long-standing traditional view of marriage as a man-woman relationship? (The question is rhetorical.)
"Marriage is for Adam and Eve" who married them then?
Why work yourself up about something you already decided. Is it Steve or Eve?
Practically all the gay relationships I've seen have been "open," here in the US they may be "married" but it's essentially playing house while they still have outside relationships, which pretty much invalidates the whole point of a marriage.
Ask yourself--what do you call a gay couple in a "marriage?" Partners? Husband? Spouse? Practically no language has a pronoun for it. If it was something so natural and normal it would have already been happening by now.
This isn't some necessary and unavoidable evolution of society but the product of Leftist/Socialist thinking and a way for gay rights advocates to force society to validate their relationships.
According to Gay&Lesbian manners you address them as Mr. White and Mr. Bright. with the idea that the conjunction (and) indicates they are a couple.
I have also seen Gay relationships that are open relationships and those that are fidelity relationships.
The main reason for a same sex union is legal, where one member can sign for the other, in such things as hospitalization, joint ownership , trusts and wills ect.
A Gallup poll of Americans in November shows the spread between those in favor of gay marriage and those against is 7%, people in favor being ahead. That is pretty significant, and also a majority.
Just as electrical energy has nothing to do with the definition and purpose of any gross electrical instrument except to energize into action, so is the universal consciousness which sensitizes subtle minds of living creatures activating into life pursuits.
By the sheer prowess of human mind faculties to fathom and reveal the causative secrets of phenomenal creation, science came into existence. All universal creation including the highly evolved human beings whose minds conceptually obey all laws of creation to build up science. Yet mind dynamics transcendentally scan the subtle aspects of phenomenal world to bring about actualization into rational and logical scientific explanations as well as technological innovations. Thus there is a procedural follow up for the gross rational but none for the subtle mind spiritual.
Among the many procreative processes of living creatures, human procreation is designed on par with hetero gendered (not confounding with sex as defined above) male/female bodies common to mammalian species. The heavy advancement of human science appears to be taking toll on all minds which created it due to vast accumulation of knowledge and yet no rational means to give peace to toiling minds. Now human mind is yearning for transcendental freedom of perverted amusement in its own created jargon of modern existence which no science can purport and the ultimate death cannot redeem to freedom.
You are right although a poll means nothing until those same poll-taking citizens take action within their respective states.
This situation is just a symptom of a dead country.
Within 20 years, Gemany's population will be millions less. With a shrinking population, shrinking economy, shrinking social welfare, and a ridiculous percentage of old people, Germans will not have the time to focus on this and will focus on other things... like heterosexual procreation.
Or has the "Brave New World" finally arrived?
During my time as a child in Britain, Homosexuality was looked upon as a crime, something just done by dirty old men.
This law was changed and it was agreed that this problem was due to bodily/mental deficiency and was to be regarded as an illness, which in most cases could be successfully treated.
Now we are being asked to accept this way of life as being normal.
What comes tomorrow, will it possibly be regarded as a duty?
None of us are perfect, but surely if nature wanted such partnerships, it would allow them to have their own children.
The word marriage is completely false in this concept.