February 9, 2012
Published: 16 Nov 09 16:10 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/opinion/20091116-23311.html
Roger Boyes, Berlin correspondent for British daily The Times, believes German society’s fascination with authority belongs confined to where it once was lacking: the country’s military.
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But what Germany needs is not a great Army today but Great systems, Reasearch & Development, Technology, Great Economy, New Global Business houses.
The army part I think America has taken care of that and a responsible role in the world.
Without a doubt, authority is very important. Someone or an elected group must lead. However, at the same time, the team that they lead should be listened to. This too is very important. Because no one knows everything.
And if a leader has destructive policies, then obviously he has the potential to destroy everyone and everything.
I care as much about Deutschland as any other human being who has ever lived in this world. And I agree with Roger Boyes, in that Germany has many talented and intelligent people. But he country lacks an "Efficient Structure". Simply put, Germany's power is being under-used. I shouldn't be afraid of the past. Germany could become a world leader in many things, without creating fear within other countries around the world.
Liberal and inefficient policies will never take any nation to the zenith.
1.because other countries are alraedy out of recession them not yet, still crawling
2.Bad government, full of corrupt officials.
3.Bad education system
4.Bad Health System
5:Low state pension
5.To much youth out of school,graduates with no jobs and they are known in the whole world of their habbits of binge drinking
6.Banks are crazy, easily give credits to the people
7.People like to go on credits and credits, and living beyond their means
8.They are printing money
9.People like to flee (so be careful germans) from "great" britain because they think their country is like a toilet.
10.they are bankrupt
It's only few of the lists, you can read more http://www.dailymail.co.uk
Whether the offensive 'writers' were American or German, I don't care. I have lived in all three countries and I know where I will end my days. Please think about what you post, educate yourself and try not to be so rude in future about my homeleand.
@ xyz_79_ whatever decisions Germany makes about its military, it is fullly entitled "now" to do. Respectfully, the following statement you made tatement is not accurate:
"The army part I think America has taken care of that and a responsible role in the world."
American is not and can not be the "policeman" of the world. The American people totally reject that and would prefer to take any military action "in concert" with its allies. Although it could go much better, the NATO effort in Afghanistan, of which Germany is committed to, is a test case for joint action. The citizen soldier concept is not new and theoretically is a good concept. The FRG has proven record of reliability and cooperativeness the past 60 years and the citizen soldier concept seem to have helped. But frankly, now is the time for both reinforcements and for the "gloves to come off" in Northern Afghanistan
Perhaps the best example of an "Efficient Structure" is Denmark. As some of you may know, the Danes are Germaic People. Us Germans could surely learn a few things from our "relatives".
Take a look a the state of california, in the US. Although they have the world's sixth largest economy, however, it is almost a failed state, primarily because it is too liberal and lacking of authority. It sort of reminds me of Germany.
Just how do you justify saying the American president doesn't want a strong military Lordwilliams629? Give a comment about the decision the previous President and Vice-President made about going into Iraq, despite the "dire" warnings from our allies, who predicted what would happen. We had decided almost 20 yrs ago that "if you break it, you own it" in regards to Iraq then went recklessly ahead and disgarded the wise decisions of a previous administration. Now President Obama is "anti-military" because he wants to return to traditional "smart analysis" in American military decision making?
It is very difficult to accomplish anything, with such a structure.
Look at Switzerland. It has a similar structure. And the Swiss would tell you that it takes forever to get anything done.
If a nation were to elect an effective, conservative leader and then place conservative intellectuals around him for support, then the people would most likely experience consistent, longterm prosperity.
O.K. Sir "lordwilliam 629", much respect to the two tours you served in Iraq. Maybe you're American, but "lordwilliam 629" indicates a British name. Anyhow, we see how favorably the Brits view Iraq as they have pulled out, not even managing the port area of Basra very well when they were there. But at least they went. Come on, your questions are rudimentary and were available in any reputable publication or media outlet. The US Congress went so far as to try to ban "french fries" because of the French response and the German government then very specifically warned of the consequences of military action. Very many--geez, Europe, Middle East nations in particular, pushed to allow the UN team to return to check out the charges of "weapons of mass destruction", which proved to be groundless. The issue isn't whether Sadaam was a better man than Bush. He was boxed in, and we didn't need to "do anything" but keep up the sanctions and other restrictions that had effectively boxed Sadaam in. It is not the U.S.'s responsibility to take out every tinpot dictator. Perhaps the best response is that there was a "Bush" who understood very clearly the consequences of invading Iraq: "father knows best". Keep on being unfair to Pres Obama but I remind you that Pres Bush was a "no-show" to his Air National Guard unit and Vice-Pres Cheney received at least two draft deferrments. What was that about military experience? As for the 40,000 for Afghanistan -- are you thinking clearly man? Here is a Switzerland type country in terms of terrain, the size of Texas!!! Had we focused on Afghanistan instead of that ill-fated Iraq misadventure we'd be somewhere. We've passed our time, it is 8 years now and we and our allies want to stabilize and scaled down. The American people do not agree with you.
Logic Guy -- "conservative intellectuals"? You mean like the ones that advised Pres Bush, got us into Iraq, drove up the price of oil and contributed to the current economic downturn? You mean those guys? That conservative stuff always sounds good till the truth comes out -- it's just another way to slant the laws and policy to benefit the wealthy and well to do.
The topic of this article is about "Germany's Citizens in Uniform", not about the U.S. Your initial comment was that "every country needs a stong mlitary to stay free". Not so but, O.K. The author strongly dislikes the "citizen-soldier" concept for the German military. That is a decision for the German people to make, and is no business of the British. What do you think of the citizen-soldier concept for the German military. Do you know why it was adopted decades ago? Does it hinder Germany's ability to conduct military operations now? This philosophy has affected the German govmnt so much that the Chief of Staff of the Bundeswehr just resigned, due to the airstrike in early Sept that killed some civilians. Other NATO countries have killed a number of civilians mistakenly in airstrikes but their military chiefs haven't had to resign. Stick to the topic!!!
Stop making disgraceful remarks about your President!!!! That isn't American!!