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Germany 'needs more public security cameras'
Published: 21 Oct 12 10:33 CET | Print version
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20121021-45685.html
Germany needs more cameras in public places and more police patrolling the streets, the interior minister said in an interview on Sunday. Attacks were becoming more brutal, despite a decline in general street crime.
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Germany currently does not have extensive security cameras coverage of streets and parks – they are largely limited to train stations. There is a strong social suspicion of public monitoring in the country which can be seen in strict privacy and data protection laws, as well as photo-based maps being forced to blur out houses when requested.
Anything other than putting more cameras and “the more police the better” on the streets, would be surrender, he added.
The Christian Social Union (CSU) politician said it was unacceptable that in certain areas in cities, people could not go about their daily lives safely and suggested that cameras would deter criminals acting as a preventative measure against crime.
Increasing police presence on the street would, he said, also help people in Germany feel safer. The brutal murder of a young man in central Berlin has triggered Friedrich's push for increased public safety.
The seemingly growing brutality of street crime in Germany has concerned the minister. He added that in general, figures had dropped but the attacks that did happen tended to be more violent.
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For example how many violent attacks have been videoed at underground stations. The may help in solving crime but the surveillance is a heavy price to pay.
They are becoming increasingly unpopular in the U.K. where they are seen as the start of "big brother" (the book not the other rubbish ).
Violent crimes in public areas happen because there's no presense of law enforcement to prevent them. I think the cameras are simply an excuse to have even less policemen on the streets, which will eventually result in more crime.
To top that, the moment these cameras are up, we'll have all the good-doers protesting, crying "Big Brother" (tho I doubt they ever read the novel).
They are slowlly taking away all the small freedoms we claimed after the Nazi's fell, of course the right to privacy and freedom from government surveillance is chief among them. The crime rate is down overall, it is a fraction of what it is in other western countries, yet still they find an excuse to play to people's fears so they can win an election next year.
Can't help smile about the indignity this issue always generates in posts. Great stuff.
They feel this is a reasonable intrusion to guarantee poeople are held acountable for their social actions in public places.
No doubt this will soon be coming to Germany as well, just like the British CCTV cameras.
LOL. If they did that in the Friedrichshain district of Berlin they would have one giant pile of dog poop to filter through. I doubt there is a lab big enough to handle this amout of crap.
I am a bit discouraged over the loss of privacy but safety trumps that.
I believe the crime of today has two root causes.
1. Because of the unbridled effort to accumulate TAG watches, Over priced BMW's. And homes large enough to house 3 families. This means that most families will have both parents working. Thereby leaving the kinder to be cared for by an uncaring stranger that only looks after them for money. This leads to a lack of discipline. Of course the working parents might feel guilty and will lavish monetary gifts upon them. What the kids needs are parents.
2. As western society marches ever closer to the Karl Marx government model of the government mandating how everything is to be done. To include how, When, And in what way you are allowed to raise your kids. I.E. parenting through government committee. One is not allowed to use a stern voice with their children anymore. In fact. If your child misbehaves. You are not allowed to punish them in any way. We are told that we must hug them and tell them that it's OK and we understand why they assaulted the kid next door. To show them how much we understand. We then will buy them a new iPhone 5 if they promise to not assault anyone again.
No wonder the kids are so screwed up and have no direction or goals in life.
The truth is, seldom does one see a policeman on the streets or in the parks here, there are far too few of them about. That however is not the only problem, when criminals are caught, many are not even charged with an offence, because the judges are said to be overworked and the state attorneys tend not to put first-time offenders before a court of law.
Also the British idea of a neighbourhood watch, or the private patrolling of public transport, as can be seen in Berlin, does not seem to catch on here. Crime would appear to be something the majority do not want, but against which nobody is prepared to take action.
We need better education is the key, in a loving atmosphere before warped ideas induce greater suffering for everyone.
We need to be more affectionate with our children and enjoy life so we can respect human value. We need radical change that is the simplest to implement. If you are religious, spiritualism is good for you and love heals all. If you are not, positive reinforcement still makes sense from a practice point of view. We must strive to be happy because this is what mental health is based on, happiness. Not attacking our fellow man. lest we become attacked.
Just like the London Underground/Tube bombings. Police asked that if anyone had photos or video from the Underground from the day of the bombings to please come forward with photos or video....all the while London police enforced their moronic "No photography in the Underground" laws(Section 44 and Section 41).
Maybe you could explain the violent crime in the 1930'S ?
When people didn't have anything following the wall street crash .
While crime is crime. There are differences from today. As you said. Most in the 30's didn't have a thing and resorted to crime in varying degrees to survive. And there weren't any emergency safety nets. Such as welfare, Food stamps. There were huge amounts of people that were starving. Add to that the fact that the alcohol prohibition in 1919 created the ideal situation for the formation of organized crime. The stock market crash just expanded the sphere of the Mob.
Compare that to today or even the last 40 years. In the US. The governments own figures show that the impoverished house hold has the following. A house or apartment with Airconditioning, Cable television, Internet, A cell phone, A car, Computer, Xbox/PS3. While they may have a hard time making ends meet. They are nowhere near the same as the poor in the 30's.
A lot of the violent crime of today has grown out of a mentality that has been drilled into the heads of the young. And that message has been, If you want it and you don't have it. It's because someone has kept you from getting it. In other words. The kids for several decades have been taught that it is their RIGHT to have everything they want. And if they don't get it. They will take it. Those kids are now adults and still have that same attitude and pass it along to a new generation. All of this is the result of a lack of parenting. Coupled with the liberals in government restricting the rights of parents to parent. The politicians then pile on by telling all within earshot that if you vote for me I'll give you things.
Hint: It doesn't actually do any good.
As for childhood discipline - I'm not someone who freaks out if a parent yells at their kid or even (I probably shouldn't admit this) applies moderate and controlled corporal punishment (ie, when the parent is actually in control of themselves and not lashing out in anger.) Those might not necessarily be the most effective forms of discipline in many cases, but they're definitely not going to destroy children either (once again, as long as the parents retain control of the situation and don't go overboard) - as evidenced by the fact that they were the most common forms of discipline for thousands of years.
With that said, I think people are oversimplifying the problem, and blaming one of their pet issues (lack of discipline of children! overly lenient justice system! Muslims!) for a problem that is in fact caused by a myriad of interrelated issues.
And in other cases, the problem is drastically overstated and overhyped in the first place.