Published: 9 Oct 12 14:01 CET | Print version
Updated: 9 Oct 12 16:32 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20121009-45449.html
German Chancellor Angela Merkel told Greece on Tuesday that the "tough path" of painful spending cuts will pay off, as tens of thousands of protesters massed in the capital in protest at her visit to the eurozone's most indebted nation.
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I guess that is not nearly enough for them, maybe if Germany doubles or triples their payouts they will stop their protests.
Wow! Now I'm really curious... Why should she?
OK, then, don't take the 31.5 billion Euros, no problem. Freedom, above all, you're right.
But, not taking the money, I understand would cause much more hardship for everybody, and even less "freedom". Is that right?
Correct ichBinkönig. And these people will end up paying back this money. No wonder they don't want to.
'And these people will end up paying back this money. No wonder they don't want to.'
IF, a very big IF, the Greeks end up paying back these 'bailouts', the repayment will NOT be going back to the German Taxpayer. Thanks EU!
The German tax payer buys control of the rest of Europe for their Government, then the German Government will collect the Miete(Rent), not the German Tax payer.
It has nothing to do with the banks, it has everything to do with the Government insisting on sending money to those banks.
The ones who caused this problem are not the ones who are picking up the pieces or suffering "tough path".
EU = NWO
Good luck!
However, the Force(German Propaganda) is strong with this one. Merkel is more popular than ever... Looks like the same strange polls we have in a lot of places these days`. its meant to create a + narrative where there isn't one.
Greece went bankcrupt and they asked for higher income.
Bild's readers are Nobel contenders compared to them.
Maybe they should exit the Euro and watch their savings be decimated by devaluation and inflation, or maybe they should stop protesting and actually get on with some work and accept the massive assistance that currently props up their nation. Amazing how your GDP will reduce if you spend so much time smashing up your own country then trying to find someone else to blame.......
And everyone knows that most of the money needed by Greece are needed to pay off debt to German banks and companies...
This debt to German banks and companies was in order for Greek to buy German products. Everything with the Euro is geared towards Germany's elite making massive profits through exports. They have cheapened labour in Germany and are now imposing austerity on other EU countries to keep this Euro gravy train afloat for themselves. We the proletariat are being made row harder, faster and for longer and longer in our lives.
Especially in the bloated public sector vast numbers of people were overpaid for very little work and then received generous public pensions at very young ages.
This is why Greece is broke.
And also, very few of them ever paid their fair taxes, so now Germany must send boatloads of money to get them out of their mess.
1/3 in Greek hands. Guess the other 2/3 has nothing to do with lending to their own banks via bailouts?
YOU IDIOT!
Should be interesting to hear your distorted view as I don't read BILD.
1. Bild type
Germans leave in an ugly country, with bad weather, bad food and bad landscape. That is why it is ok that they work, to pay for people who leave in wonderful Greece.
2. Educated type
Greek people did not get any of the German money, Greek government got them to pay debts to German banks/companies. This is a circle, German tax payers at the end pay for German banks and companies profit.
Which one do u prefer?
This is very dangerous
then i noticed something similar too. Aren't the protesting Greeks who call Germans with nasi names the ones who gave the Greek nasi party the biggest thumps up in last election.
Yes, I do think all of the PIIGS have lived far beyond their means since EMU, and I think the money went many places other than to buy German made goods.
Germany has been a top exporter the whole world over for decades before EMU, people the world over buy goods made by BMW, Mercedes Benz, Bosch, Miele, etc. because of their reputation for high quality.
You always make it sound as though German export prowess began the day EMU came into force and that Germans would be starving without it.
Frankly, I think German companies would be wiser to focus on new markets in Brazil and China and Russia rather than in the bankrupt unproductive PIIGS.
Yes, agreed German products are renound for high quality and yes Germany has been an exporter since before the Euro. But since the emergence of China as a world power in manufacturing and exporting Germany could not compete and the strong DM was a major hindering factor. The weaker Euro has undoubtedly benefited German exports to such an extent that they can compete somewhat in the export market. However, this is apparently at the expense of the weaker economies who find the Euro too strong.
Take Iceland for example. They had a problem with bankrupt banks but without the restraint of the EU and the Euro they were able to burn the bond holders as should have been done in Ireland and were also able to devalue their own currency and rebuild. They are now doing fine without austerity being imposed on them like Greece, Portugal, Ireland, Spain and probably Italy.
It gets us nowhere but back to the same problems.
I hope people don't just comment here so quickly, but also take time to research other sides to this issue, rather than expecting the media (bild or others) to balance things and represent people fairly.
Isn't that just like trusting banks and politicians to balance everything?
On that factor, What of France, is the anger from Greece only directed towards Germany or is it directed at France as well, my understanding was that France was doing economically good too.
'Greeks are Lazy !'
Agreed, but the socialist here don't want to hear it. They stand in solidarity with what the Greek Unions tell them.
I am not the spring of wisdom either, but as a German I can say that the products sold to Greece on dept that caused part of their dependancy have been produced by German engineers and low class factory workers (a few of them are even from Greece). It is rediculous to blame Germany as a country for offering their technology and innovations while they didnt even get paid for it in reply.
Sure the Brechtian revolutionaries here are right saying that the banks and both side's governments are majorly responsible for this fatal financial depency, but what is the consequence? Going to grandma the next time you want to get a loan for your house, because all our banks closed? Or maybe we will be asking the Chinese government, because they have so much money?
Anti-capitalistic socialism always fails when it comes to reality and you ask them for a working concept to substitute the current one. Change? -> Yes, Revolution? -> can be necessary, Socialist Anarchie? -> No!
Most of the people in this Forum studied economics but prefer wasting their time writing opinions in Internet Blogs.Generalizing is easy!Germans are nazis and greeks are lazy.And what about you?You are stupid then...
Go buy yourself an iPad to relax!
Posting ideas in the web/facebook is pathetic thats why i hate myself!
But its ok...at least i dont pretend to be happy!
well, basically most of us share the same defect: we usually chose the easiest way, how short sighted in may be.
The politians chose to comfort their economy leaders by approving big business opportunities for them regardless of the consequences that the next elected states head has to deal with. This even creates new jobs and they are the stars of the day.
The banks at the same time see their own profit and hope that crisis comes later than everyone predicts, saving their own private money in secure Switzerland.
In so far I share your critical view of the deciders' behaviour and the system that allows them to do so. You're right the people have to stand up and protest, kick some asses that feel a little too comfortable. However, in Germany we have a saying: "Who says A also needs to say B." -> If we critisize the current system then we also have the duty to suggest practical solutions.
Otherwise we really end up in chaos like the old Kommunists or Nazis or like Robespierre after the French Revolution.
I dont envy Merkel for her job by the way, she probably has the least comfortable one these days!
Now it is the German government who " encouraged" the Greeks to join the Euro? I was around reading Bild at the time and all I ever heard was Greek governments and some other southern ones lobbying non stop to pressure the north to let Greece into the Eurozone against strong German opposition to letting them in. There was even very strong German resistance to letting Italy in, can you remember the "spaghetti euro" debates that raged at that time? So the Germans got a relatively weaker currency for a few years and that helped exports so now they are obliged to cough up every single benefit in the form of bailouts, transfer union payment, pooled debts for the rest of eternity, all to countries they have little in common with? Why?
The Greek peoples frustration and dissatisfaction would be more accurate if they pointed it at their politicians and corrupt banking system.
The measures are Draconian by anyones standarts but the fact is the Greeks need the support to avoid a total collapse. the problem is the money will only serve to restructure existing debt.The only way out is for the EU to impose these austerity measures with checks and balances from an outside source and forgive the debt.The Greeks will never come out of this cycle if the debt is continuously restructured.
Yes, but who,
And why?
Just as an fyi, I don't know much on the entire subject but I can use google. Before you right comments, you should check what you're saying. Here is a link:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/dec/08/europe-working-hours
The link will take you to a page showing averages hours worked per person within a week. This was from Dec 2011, and shows that greece has the longest hours of work per week, next only to Austria.
Lawyered.