Published: 14 Jun 12 16:30 CET | Print version
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The discovery of a fake suicide vest at a Berlin flat used by an extremist Salafist Islamist rapper prompted raids of around 70 addresses across the country by more than 1,000 police officers, it emerged on Thursday.
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Wowwwwww! how dangerous.. its so scary!! germans should start finding shelters. the dangerous shadow of a free copy is haunting us!!
H.Y.P.O.C.R.A.C.Y
As for the rest...Wake up Germany! You can open your arms to every person on the planet and welcome them to your bossom as your flock of sheep and enjoy the result of your misguided thinking that everyone will love you and treat you with the same respect that you treat them (or more accurately cower from them since Germany is so self absorbed with never offending anyone ever again).
Personally...if you come to Germany to live, you are coming with the intent that you accept German Citizenship and all its principles - If you do not want to integrate into German society, then why come to Germany at all? Stay in your own country, enjoy the benefits of your own culture and stay away from those "other" countries that you will not want to integrate into. No mess, No Foul...Easy really.
@ staggerlee
How do you know that the aggressor was Salafist? Did you have a theological debate first? How do you know that the aggression was motivated by religion differences? I am pretty sure there are Christians or Shinto (pick any other religion you want) that attacked other peaceful people - does that make the entire religion violent? I cannot understand your reasoning.
@ Dyderich
Salafist does not necessarily mean immigrant. Religious extremism knows no nationality.
"German Salafist believer was jailed for life in February for killing two American soldiers at Frankfurt Airport in March 2011."
"Furious Salafists even attacked the police, with one man stabbing two policemen during one stand-off. "
""Wowwwwww! how dangerous.. its so scary!! germans should start finding shelters. the dangerous shadow of a free copy is haunting us!!"""
H.Y.P.O.C.R.A.C.Y""
hypocrites come in all forms and sizes, mentality and social status, thanks for your insightful comment.
The difference of course is that the neo-nazis are mostly germans and the muslim "extremists" are immigrants and part of a world wide terrorist struggle to establish Sharia law everywhere. We have enough on our hands trying to deal with the nazis.
I know because the case went to court. Where he also refused recognize the authority of the court. The Judge did make this comment to him... and I paraphrase....'You don't recognize the authority of the court, but you are unemployed and receiving government benefits, which you are happy to recognize.
I understand that there are extremist East, M.E. and West, it comes from all backgrounds. I respect Islam as long as it does not infringe in any way to my freedoms and beliefs. In my case , it did infringe . I just wish that the same respect would be extended in return. I am tolerant and respectful, I am a dove, not a hawk, basically you'd call me a peace freak. I respect all belief systems as long as they protect women, children, are based on the rule of law, respect life, and human dignity, and individual civil rights, etc. Can the same be said for those who want to impose Sharia law on me??
But that doesn´t justify neglecting the fact that Neo-Nazis are equaly a major threat as the Salafists...it´s like paying more attention on "immigrant" crimes, while more national security threathning crimes are being committed by natives. And from what I see, a large number of the Salafists are actually German born and bread...jaaa maybe some are of "immigrant descent" but we all know that Germans of today/this generation can be Turkish, Arab, Latino, Asian, African or even North American. Infact in the case of Germany, discrimination, hostility, tactical dis-integration of ethnic groups, and the freedom of Neo-Nazism in this country adds to the radicalization of some those muslims. All these Salafist whatever started getting worse and so violent after the exposure of the killings of the muslims/immigrants by the right extremist groups. I don´t think one must be a muslim before being angered by those killings and the freedom those extremists still enjoy in this country. It´s still of my opinion that ALL those groups be banned.
Salafist, let me be the 1st one to tell you that your religion, just like all religions, are merely superstitions based on ancient myths. In other words, your religions is $hit.
You are welcome.
I would much rather not walk out of a pub and end up with broken bones for no apparent reason and then be told this was done out of "love"? This is the epitome of fanaticism and like the explosive vests must be dealt with severely. Internal national security is at stake in Germany and across the EU.
Those who worship diversity and inclusivism are the ones who are deluded, not the general public who see right through this warped theology.
Sorry but I don't know
"I believe we all still remember the tragic deaths of so many Muslims that were killed in Germany because of their religion."
Is this about those killed by the "nazi underground " or what ever they were called?
Because I thought that was about colour not religion ,didn't they murder a Greek by mistake based on his colour.
Please tell if I am on the wrong track and explain which deaths you refer .
Thanks
They know people are easily distracted.
Do not be silly, please. Certainly you recognize,extremism, even when disguised in sheep costumes? It is because of naivity such as yours that extremists are everywhere rather than staying home in their extremist countries. Multiculturism is fine, but this type of extremism exploits the efforts of societies to embrace others. If I may use this word, evil is the term that describes this extremism. We have seen this evil in prior times and have fails to name it and send it away or destroy it and the message it brings.
You must wake up. It is silly to trust .
"Through mighty signes and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God , so that from Hierusalem and round about vnto Illyricum , I haue fully preached the Gospel of Christ."
A true gospel preacher preaches the gospel of Christ. The man formerly known as Denis Cuspert is not a gospel preacher.
Sincerely in Christ,
Russell E. Willis
P.S. - Please read Proverbs 23:23.
I think immigration in general has too many downfalls on the grounds that we may lose our unique European cultures and our unique and in my opinion beautiful ethnicity.
Every other race has brownish skin, hair and eyes I think more should be done to preserve our race for the future not on the grounds of hate for others but on the grounds of love for our own people.
your words were very painful as you described what happened. If this happened to any one from any one in this planet, the second one should not be put to jail , if he is from another such country and did it based on biased belief or opinion, HE SHOULD BE KICKED OUT OF THE COUNTRY IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS.
If the german system did not help you, then you should help your self. I am sorry it could come to this, but you should take some reaction (I apologize again, i do not believe in revenging) but you should do something! because based on his motives, he would do it to other people. Some could be helpless and some would be hurt more than you. HE SHOULD BE STOPPED! THINK OF A WAY PLEASE! do not ignore it.
..http://www.dw.de/dw/article/0,,16028222,00.html
You can read some additional articles here.
This group of radicals has no intention of integrating or being civilized in Germany or any other country. The world does not have to tolerate this kind of attitude and it would be wise, in my opinion, if every single salafist was immediately removed from countries they have immigrat to and were returned to their home country.
If they despise other religions as much as it seems they do and if they are willing to act so aggressively toward people who do not wish to have their information......then go home. Get the hell out and don't let the door hit you in the ass as you leave!
Yes, most of the neo-Nazi crimes exposed last year had to do with victims having a different religion, nationality and sometimes colour (not the case of the Greek though; if you check his pictures on the net, you can see that he was as white as a typical German). The words "Gott mit uns" promoted by Hitler is still in use in the neo-Nazi circles.
But they are only part of hate crimes targeting Muslims. Maybe one of the most discussed case was that of Marwa El-Sherbini (Dresden, 2009), killed in court. These type of crimes I am referring to.
@ staggerlee #12
Ah, so you had the theological debate in court? Or is it that if he looked like a Muslim, then he must be a Muslim? And if he is a Muslim, then he is for sure a Salafist? And then you claim to be victimised because your story did not convince the court, even if he supposedly did not recognise the authority of the court? Sorry, your story does not really add up. And again, if a member of a religion/sect/religious group behaves in a way, it means that all members of that religion/sect/religious group are the same? I hope you realise how many Christians committed crimes (sometimes claiming that they are made in the name of Christianity) and that does not make the religion itself criminal.
http://www.fantompowa.net/Flame/yugoslavia_collaboration.htm