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Court: skin colour good reason for cop ID check

Published: 27 Mar 12 12:06 CET | Print version
Updated: 27 Mar 12 15:54 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20120327-41589.html

German police have been told they can continue to single out black train passengers on the basis of their colour to check their papers, prompting allegations of institutionalised racism.

"If this is true, it is essentially illegal," Tahir Della of the Initiative of Black People in Germany (ISD) told The Local. "The authorities have always said the police do not do racial profiling."

"Non-white people already get a disproportionate amount of hassle from the police, if this is now being officially sanctioned, then it will open the floodgates," he added. "I am of course very shocked by this. It is basically racism."

A Koblenz court knocked down the complaint of a black German man who got into an argument with two federal police officers who demanded his papers while travelling on a train.

He refused to show the officers his identity papers, and was taken off the train to a police station where his rucksack was searched and his driving license eventually found, the court said in a statement.

The officers then accused him of abusing them, and took him to court. During the hearing one of the officers said that when deciding which travellers to check, he sought out those who seemed to him to be foreigners and said one of his criteria was skin colour.

This prompted the man concerned to sue, saying their conduct was illegal. But the judges at the Koblenz administrative court in Rhineland Palatinate ruled on Tuesday that the officers had not acted illegally, but were guided by their “border policing experience.”

In the case concerned, the man had been checked on a route which was often used for illegal entry into Germany, the court said, although it did not reveal where the incident happened.

Because only spot checks were possible on such trains, the people selected could be chosen based on their appearance, the judges ruled.

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#1
12:46 March 27, 2012 by dellort
i am neither black nor caucasian, but this is just not right. How can caucasian ( romanian, russian, or even turkish) who just have fair skin being treat exclusively yet those so called "coloured" person getting prejudice. I admit that some of them are doing nasty things, but it's just human being.

"Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. "

Mahatma Gandhi
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#2
13:06 March 27, 2012 by karwa
@dellort: Well said by Gandhi and well reminded by you my friend. To complete the phrase:

"It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right".

I believed that Germany was a democratic country and that the courts here would be fair. But this sentence deprives non-whites of their precious freedom. Further, the west is mostly fighting fair complexion people (iraq, iran, afghanis, east europeans.....). Browns (south asians) and blacks (african) aren't fighting them.

What a SHAME !!!!
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#3
13:23 March 27, 2012 by boopsie
How refreshing in an era when "profiling" has a become a politically correct dirty word. Well done Germany.
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13:26 March 27, 2012 by szukalski
Get over it guys and get into reality. This sentence just shows how logical Germany is and how they are not being bullied into PC-madness like the UK.

There is a reason why they were doing it, it wasn't racism, it was common sense. They are searching for illegal immigrants, the officer even went as far as saying that he was looking for people who look foreign to him, I would hazard a guess to say that this would include Romanian, Russian, or even Turkish.

This guy looked foreign to the officer so he did his job, the guy took offence and caused trouble so he went through the long process. I have long hair and often have a beard, yet a don't raise a fuss when I am stopped late at night whilst driving and asked if I have been drinking or had drugs. Hell, I would stop me.

Honestly people, stop crying like PC babies and let the guys do their jobs.

I am aware that their is a level of hidden (and not-so-hidden) racism within Germany but let us not end up where the UK has gone where abuse at police and public is rife.

If the police had introduced this guy to a broom handle or shot him in the back for standing his ground then I would understand but they did not..
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#5
14:07 March 27, 2012 by ATM
This is definitely racial profiling. Not sure how people look foreign other than their skin color. But then there are people of color and from other groups who are German by birth. As a Black American living in Germany I have on occasion been stopped by the Polizei and asked for ID. Showed my Identification, they asked a question, thanked me and I was on my way. I did not feel I was profiled as they were asking other people for IDs Now in the states I have had a few incidents where it was obviously profiling. I think the German courts were wrong on this one. But if your paperwork is in order then you have nothing to worry about. .
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#6
15:19 March 27, 2012 by Cuchullain
Time for other countries to start spot-checking whites -- just in case they're German Nazis. I mean, you can really only go by skin color...
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#7
15:30 March 27, 2012 by catjones
szukalski....a little bit of racism is ok as long as it's not against you, eh? Hey, if women are discriminated against in the workforce it's because they're not qualified, eh? You and others like you are evolutionary speed bumps.
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15:48 March 27, 2012 by Peepopaapo
Funny to see how some people once again come out and start to spread their anti-German sentiments by saying that this is typical of Germany. Have you ever been to Paris, France and seen that the French police usually only checks black people at the train stations? Have you ever heard of the fact that black people are more likely to be sentenced in the U.S. than white people?
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#9
15:53 March 27, 2012 by el3ktro
I have to agree with szukalski. This is not racism, this is common sense. If I want to stop illegal immigration, I can either check EVERY SINGLE PERSON, or I concentrate on those persons who are most likely illegal immigrants. White, Caucasian people are the majority in Germany and Europe, and neither Germans or EU-Europeans can possibly be illegal immigrants, so it makes sense to concentrate on those people who - by their looks - are obviously not from Europe or don't have their roots here. That's simply common sense! If you have a valid ID the police will give you a quick "Thank you sir, have a good day" no matter where you're coming from and that was it.

If I go to, hmm let's say Japan, and I run into immigration police, I wouldn't be surprised if they chose ME as an non-Asian instead of the very obviously Japanese businessman next to me.
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16:03 March 27, 2012 by Peepopaapo
@ el3ktro: Yes, that's right - if I were in Japan and the Japanese would check my ID just because I'm looking European I would not be angry at all and I would not consider that as being racist towards me. I would just show them my passport and that's it. And I don't consider the French to be racist when they check the ID of black people because the French actually have a lot of problems with illegal immigration from countries where black people live. So it's only logical that they use to check especially black people.
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16:12 March 27, 2012 by jg.
It is plainly racial profiling but, as the court said, in a country where 91.5% of residents are indigenous Germans, race may be one viable criterion to asses whether or not someone is likely to be a German citizen. A visit to your local Auslanderbehoerde will demonstrate this.

Conversely, when they are looking for right wing extremists, I seriously doubt that the police would consider anyone who isn't white.
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#12
17:36 March 27, 2012 by Staticjumper
So, does anyone know what happens if the Polizei check someone's ID (for whatever reason) and discover the person is in the country illegally? Is the person detained?
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#13
18:12 March 27, 2012 by fload46d
This is smart on the part of Germany. PC will get you into trouble and can get you killed. Like the guy said, show them your papers. If everything is in order, you have nothing to worry about. Also, I like the fact the Polizei are in teams with one carrying an automatic weapon. Looks like they're ready. Being smart makes you a winner.
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18:52 March 27, 2012 by Dono
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#15
19:13 March 27, 2012 by mastiboulance
So if they are looking for a pedophile, they should start cheking the 91.5% of german citizen. Is that the logic here?
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#16
19:37 March 27, 2012 by diepiriye
The sad part is that I know that this makes perfect sense to loads of people in Germany. It's efficient, and asking ethical questions is simply inefficient. Frankly, I'd like to Boycott the nation, but unfortunately have family there, and so while I will AVOID TRAVEL TO GERMANY AT ALL COSTS, AND CONTACT THE EU, I will also have to avoid speaking about it in mixed company because I am so sick and tired of discussing ethics in a nation that is clearly only concerned with efficiency. Bet they don;t check skin color when exporting all those "fabulous" German cars. Money talks and until our governments place pressure on this nation, they will never get it: Ethics matter. The content of your character matters!
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#17
19:43 March 27, 2012 by KamiZ
How's the Koblenz district court in NRW? It's supposed to be in Rheinland-Pfalz (Rhineland-Palatinate).
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20:21 March 27, 2012 by patmanlou
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#19
20:22 March 27, 2012 by kiaat
i dont see the problem here... you are in germany and you have to play by their rules. they did not colonise to the same extent as france, uk and spain... they did not do that and do not have to deal with the reverse flow back.

they have every right to ask for ID as by law you must carry ID in germany. it is the law - full stop. if the judges ruled that based on experience there must be something about how the cops check people then i would imagine that they are doing their job in catching people that are not allowed in that country.

yes, it is uncomfortable to be asked for your ID and to have to prove yourself, but that is how it works in germany. if you dont like it .... (you know where this is going...) i was also checked and asked for ID and i am ethnically white. it is just how they do it. that man should have just shown his ID and conversed with them in perfect high german telling them he is happy to be a contributor to society there and thanking them after they looked at his ID and wishing them a good day. but he did not.. he wasted his time and theirs... you aint gonna change it there and they give f all about whether or not you buy their cars . @diepiriye you are so naive. yes, AVOID coming to GERMANY and the EU.. just stop. thanks for stopping... and i may say that you should pressure your "governments" to focus on much bigger issues. i think they are going just fine in germany.
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20:50 March 27, 2012 by Peepopaapo
@ diepiriye: You are free to avoid traveling to Germany and you are free to avoid buying German products, but I fear for you that the Chinese, Brasilians and others won't stop traveling to Germany and buying German cars and machines and to be honest I don't think that they really care whether in particular black people are checked in Germany or not. Why should they? German cars and German machines belong to the best cars and best machines in the world.
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#21
21:06 March 27, 2012 by ovalle3.14
"Show your papers and you have nothing to worry about."

This incident has nothing to do with having something to worry about, for God's sake. Also nobody is arguing that black people should not be checked. It's easy to divert attention from the real problem here, and pretend to be in favor of "doing the right thing".
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#22
22:02 March 27, 2012 by patmanlou
@ diepiriye: You are free to avoid traveling to Germany and you are free to avoid buying "German products, but I fear for you that the Chinese, Brasilians and others won't stop traveling to Germany and buying German cars and machines and to be honest I don't think that they really care whether in particular black people are checked in Germany or not. Why should they? German cars and German machines belong to the best cars and best machines in the world."

That's the myth that needs to be debunked......

Any country's manufactured car is just as good as Germany. It's people like you spreading that myth, and those who can't think for themselves just accept the bull you spread. I would put any American can against a German built. Well.... except for the Chinese.... They cars are pure crap, stolen technologies from the rest of the world.
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#23
22:02 March 27, 2012 by Lawdog20636
I wish the United States could get away with doing this. Immigration is a real problem here as well. We can't even ask to see identification from someone prior to them voting.
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#24
22:07 March 27, 2012 by Lawdog20636
Ich bin ein stolzer Amerikaner und Liebe mein Land. Ich liebe Deutschland und Reisen dort alle zwei Jahre für einen Besuch. Ich denke, dass Deutschland einen tollen Job und Wunsch, den die Vereinigten Staaten, in gewisser Weise folgen würden tut.
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#25
22:53 March 27, 2012 by GermanMonarchist
While I don't think that you should single out people just for their race, I do think they should be more cautious with people of middle eastern or African descent. Only because they danger we face and all of western civilization is facing. And that is Islamic terrorism, so police should be more aware and be allowed to investigate people because they appear middle eastern. Now their of course has to be restrctions on how far they go, but we have to realize who we are facing and where they come from.
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#26
22:55 March 27, 2012 by Mingus
Now I understand better why the guys of the Zwickau Cell were not detected for more than ten years.
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#27
23:16 March 27, 2012 by ngwanem
A lot of comments here just reveal the xenophobic tendencies by a lot of The Local contributors... How can you justify racial profiling just by using genetic traits and even associating danger to it? With this attitude, the extreme right wingers can happily celebrate because they are above suspicion, while the Ausländers have to bear the brunt of selective control... It is really sad to note the pervasive presence of tribal ideas in 21st Century Europe!!!
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#28
23:18 March 27, 2012 by kiaat
@Lawdog20636: du schreibst so suess! but you forgot your verb... we like to see a verb at the end of a rambling emotive explosion of teutonic brotherhood-love. and fyi, most people that post here are usa people that are 3rd generation of germans that emigrated crow's year's back...

@mingus: you are dealing with reality. but please make a distinction. most posts here are about current german law which requires you to carry and show ID at all times. this has a history from the Nepolianic days to put it into context. This is how it is here in this country. nazis, beer, the best cars in the world, nosy cops and lots of sharp elbows... but.. it is progressive, values privacy laws and has a background/ethnically mixed bag of leaders, e.g. a gay foreign minister, ethnically asian coalition partner leader and a female head of state.. reality can be hard to wrap your head around, eh?
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#29
00:12 March 28, 2012 by chicagolive
Well being black this has truly blown my mind. I left the states to get a break from the ignorance of there and now I got Germany which should have learned its lesson. From its Fathers and grandfathers that massacre the none Aryan groups going around saying yep its okay to go back to the good old days. If you are in Bavaria or Southern Germany prepare for the racism level to jump ten fold. I get checked everytime on the train coming from that area.
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#30
00:44 March 28, 2012 by Proud-German
I lived in Japan and was routinely stopped for my id. It's a hassle and can be annoying, but Germany IS originally white European and should stop illegal immigrants by all available means.
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#31
00:49 March 28, 2012 by el3ktro
@chigagolive: Which train routes exactly are you using? I'm travelling to and from southern Germany by train for business regularily - sometimes several times a week and I can't remember that I have ever seen police in the trains checking people's IDs.
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#32
00:59 March 28, 2012 by Chigozie Ohanweh
People find it so easy to criticize others, while they are worst. The officers were doing thier job n didn't act wrongly in any manner yet some branded them racist. That man are the difficult types, they make things difficult for themselves, he would have shown them his papers n earn the officers respect n apology but he chose the difficult way, he sued, but what did he get at the end of the day? Go HOME U HAVE GOT NO CASE.
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#33
04:34 March 28, 2012 by catjones
german citizens of color will have to have 'the talk' with their children. Welcome to Florida.
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#34
06:47 March 28, 2012 by sfd69
Germany surely knows that if this stands it will face the wrath of African American celebs and politicians calling for economic sanctions and boycotts and give it an image that it won't be able to shake? Someone needs to put the breaks on this NOW, Germans are decent people-meister meinen freunde sind Deutsche and I would like to keep it that way.

SlikkFromTheD
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08:41 March 28, 2012 by Michael R
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#36
09:29 March 28, 2012 by lordkorner
You won't find a dog warden running around looking for cats.
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#37
09:33 March 28, 2012 by Peepopaapo
@ patmanlou: Well, you are actually the one who is living in a myth. But you are free to buy any cars you want no matter where they come from... it's your choice.
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#38
11:06 March 28, 2012 by nitseen
I am shocked, yes. I also stay in NRW and have been stopped once by the police (at 11 PM and because I was wearing dark clothes and riding a bike with no lights on), but they were polite (albeit firm) and checked my ID's and told me to switch my lights on as they dont want an accident.

The only other times I have ever been asked for an ID are in the DB, but that was always just a perfunctory check. I'm brown skinned btw.

I don't mind the occasional ID check though. I recognize that I'm not in my country and cannot hope to be treated like I'm back home. But I am uncomfortable with an official ruling regarding the same. In the times where Germany wants skilled labor, this isn't encouraging.

If I were to get a good job back at home and a good job in Germany and I read through something like this, will i relly be motivated to come here?

Very difficult issue to digest.. very very difficult.
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#39
11:32 March 28, 2012 by Wobinidan
Random ID checks are bullshit anyway. Checking someone's ID on the national database means you suspect them of a crime. If the police can check you whenever they want, then you are always a suspect, no matter what you are doing. Sitting on a train, walking down the street, going to the supermarket, you are always a suspect if you are black.

This is very bad for integration. How do you expect people of other races to integrate if they don't even have the same rights as white people?
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#40
11:47 March 28, 2012 by dicaps68
you are born a German ,you do not become a German. what is wrong with Id checks.this done every where on earth
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#41
19:45 March 28, 2012 by kofiflay
I looked forward to the times when black people will be asked to hang their id's on their necks ;)
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#42
20:46 March 28, 2012 by chicagolive
@ el3ktro Since I travel in the south by train alot I have noticed it the most along with my co-workers that it is the trains from Munich, Konstanz, and Bern. Now I would not have a issue(I still don't like the stasi style of going to citizens checking them)if these controls where actually random but they are not especially since I work with in this type of groups. We get alot of complaints about this.

I have co workers who have been shotgun with Zoll and they don't ask any whites nothing, even though by stats they are the ones we should be looking at the most. The polizei always go after the darker skin people and the excuses of why have nothing to do with police work. Many are some little punks cops who are mad that there sister got knocked by a black guy and just don't like blacks period. If you don't see them its beside they are plain clothes. It is rare you would see any with uniform.
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#43
11:17 March 29, 2012 by bwjijsdtd
Those who forget the past, are destined to repeat it ... 1933 -1945 ...
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#44
13:19 March 29, 2012 by gremar
I'm wondering why this one topic is in multiple(3x) forms on here?! Talk about "feed the fire". Anyway, this link should help many understand the fundamental issue here: http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/pauswg/__1.html. This is brought down to a race issue when it's not really the issue.

Yes, I am black. I have posted my $0.02 on a sister article here on thelocal:http://www.thelocal.de/article.php?ID=41619#comment2720311

Maybe thelocal should re-write these three articles by first mentioning that IT IS LAW to always have identification on you.
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#45
13:46 March 29, 2012 by boopsie
@ chicagolive

Its not only the Stasi that are associated with ID checks. They are a very legitimate method used by all police to control crime and profiling is a very effective method of of controlling crime as well.
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#46
16:01 March 29, 2012 by chicagolive
profiling and singling out a single group is totally different. We do profiling but our boss taught us become racial about it makes you blind to the real threats. Our group has helped the Germans do there jobs because they where to busy being racial about it. When the killings and bombings where happening they where only focusing on Turks and as one Police sup put it lesser races. Totally ignoring the massive amount of people of there gene pool who are getting terrorist training and coming home.

Guess what the leaders of terrorism know this and they are using the blind ignorance or Germans against them it is only a matter of time before this blows up literally in there face. Germany has come extremely close in the last few years to a Madrid or higher level catastrophe and most of these actions are from there own who have converted.
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16:38 March 29, 2012 by boopsie
The police quite rightly profile arabs because of islamic violence issues and black africans for immigration issues. That there are some "home grown" jihadists appearing from time to time does not make the profiling any less effective. When it turns out that the greater threat comes from white muslims then the profile should be adjusted.
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#48
18:59 March 29, 2012 by Berlinbear
@ boopsie....you're absolutely right that the police are just "doing their job"....that's how 10 murders went "unnoticed" for about 10 years...as undercover police and/or V-Leute were inside this homegrown, German terror cell...
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#49
19:20 March 29, 2012 by boopsie
Well the police can't get all of it but they can concentrate on the greater threat. If we lobby the government to increase their budget maybe they can cast their net wider. They will have too as every slip up will entail greater damage in the future as terrorists find access to nuclear materials thru the Iranian network. One miss will result in catastrophic mayhem.
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00:06 March 30, 2012 by chicagolive
The German police have what they need. Money is not going to answer incompetence plan and simple. They don't need to cast a bigger net that only allows more holes to develop they need to focus or the right areas, and the RIGHT PEOPLE. What alot of you guys fail to realize Germany is the perfect country to get young white jihadists and why is that. Alot of these jugend have no identity they don't know what is Father/Mother Germany mean to them since the Nazi Party Germany has fought hard against nationalist attitudes.

The problem with this approach is that it creates a void of community connection with out this connection the youth are open to more corruption and outside influences. How many Germanys don't even know or hardly even talk to the people they have lived next to for years many very many. With this attitude of disconnect anybody can be a mass killer any day. Next you have this country of letting be down and degrading them, I am sorry if a employer talked to his worker in Germany in a few other countries I know who would be breathing from a straw. This also comes from a lack of connection and respect for the fellow next to them.
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00:29 March 30, 2012 by boopsie
Disillusioned white youth may be your fantasy chicagolive but the overwhelming social threats remain the muslim jihadist and the illegal african immigrant in my opinion. I spoke to someone in German social services a few years ago and they said that they are aware that many of the asylumed africans are selling dope but they feel obligated give them visas because of germany's history of national socialism. I don't think its an enlightened policy to import a questionable population at the expense of germany's young people.
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#52
08:52 March 30, 2012 by Michael R
It seems that The Local Journalists and many of the approved commentators on here scream racism at every turn. But when when it comes to Germany you cant wait to flog 1933-1945 .German history consists of far more than 12 years of fascism. By bringing the Nazi period into so many discussions on here you are using the old "guilt by association" prejudice, which is in itself a form of racism against all the generations born after 1945.

Now lets hope I don't get censured yet again.
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#53
10:58 March 30, 2012 by chicagolive
@ boopsie Okay I guess she is in a city that has 2 blacks and those 2 happen to sell dope. The largest drug traffickers in Germany come from Eastern Europe. With a good chunk run by the Biker Gangs, who the police are scared of and the Eastern Mafias who again the police are afraid of. So it is easier to just blame the issues on the lest represented groups than to say that they are scared to chase after the real crooks.

Now working around alot of local and federal officials there is a serious disconnect on information and reality(I thought the US was champions at this)people are really in there own little world in the gazillion different levels of the German government. The assertion of being obligated to give out asylum is probably the funniest thing I ever heard over less than 5% of Asylum apps are granted in Germany, the deportation procedures are just horrid and has been stated as being inhumane. Alot of people who can here are from countries that have raped woman and killed children and most seekers are these groups and no it is not possible to take them all.

We all understand it is not easy to take them and some tough decisions need be made but sorry bud Germany does not even bother with that pretty much most cases are decided before the person even gets comfortable in the jail cell. Alot of people have died alot of very resentful people have been sent back to horrid conditions. The problem I have is this don't say you want to be a humanitarian leader while doing your best not to be humanitarian. Germans are great at talking hell they can out talk anybody, now when it comes to action you better just doing it yourself renegade style or just dealing with another group.

They love making themselves sound important while not doing anything. That is the German way look at the Greek fiasco more harm than good came from it.
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16:23 March 30, 2012 by conniemarks
This is such a difficult area. I lived and worked in Germany for many years, and have seen a huge change in attitudes since I lft Germany in 1993. When I was first in Gemany over 40 years ago, racism was part of wallpaper and went unchecked. I don't even think educated Germans realized they were being racist when they were making remarks about black people which wouldn't have been out of place in apartheid South Africa. Yet, the decision of the court in Coblenz is not unreasonable given the social problems in urban areas across Europe of today directly due to unchecked immigration from third world countries. Here In London,,where I live, the highest gun and knife crime rates are in the four London boroughs which the highest concentration of black residents. Young black men complain bitterly of the frequency of the police's "Stop and Seach" activity in black areas. However it has become politically incorrect to say to these young: "Stop committing crime if you want the police to reduce thehigh number of street Stop and Searches. Political correctness is now way at the level it is in Britain and America, so the Coblenz judges cannot be blamed for this decision.
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16:36 March 30, 2012 by conniemarks
My final point is that European countries which are exclusively home to peoples of homogenous racial groups is now a past phenomenon. The indigenous peoples of the British Isles, or Germany or France may feel uncomfortable about this, and even resist it, but facts are facts. Millions of people who have sought a better life in our societies now live alongside us. Germany is longer exclusively German; British is certainly no longer exclusive to the indigenous British people. In fact we are told that the English will be in a minority in my country by 2050. Obviously the law in our European countries has to catch up, but that 'catching up' doesn't mean that a court in Coblenz has to turn a blind eye to the fact that black immigrants have caused problems in the past and the present, but NOTHING on the scale of the crime brought in by eastern Europeans.
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#56
16:38 March 30, 2012 by jabulani
Let every country keep their SOVERAINETY and FREEDOM.

Did any one tryed to go to the muslim countries? YOU HAVE TO ABIDE BY THEIR LAWS OR ELSE !! did you ever tryed to preach religion in a muslim /jewish country? HA !! then you know that HUMANITY AND DEMOCRACY IS FOR THE GULLABLES.

So lets Germany tackle the undesirables...and keep their whiteness WHITE !! . I am not black nor caucasian but live in AFRICA and KNOW what this people are capable of and they are on the mayority ! !

A chinese is not german by having german passport...by blook he is chinese....

To have a EU passport is a wonderful priviledge so should anyone who have adquiered it by immigrating to the country would commit a crime...TAKE their passport away and send them where they come from !!!

Priviledges are there to be enjoy it and respect and appreciate them.
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#57
18:31 March 30, 2012 by GeeAitch
This term, "people of colour" is racist and offensive.

All people have a color of some sort. So-called whites are really a light sepia, not white at all.
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#58
19:16 April 3, 2012 by ChuChu
Sooo true...I quote "You cannot "become" a German, you are "Born" German. Just for the record...there are NO black Germans, no matter how much they cry and

protest..it is just the way it is, the same as "Whites" are not Africans...they visit Africa or they migrate to Africa but, IT DOES NOT MAKE THEM AFRICAN. The same as Europe belongs to the "whites" China belongs to the Chinese....your get my drift????? So please stop pushing, just accept it. I, f what the German Police are doing now, by profiling, offends you? welllllll, you know the rest!!!
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#59
15:06 April 5, 2012 by provita67
Papiere bitte, lass mich sehen Ihre Papiere!
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Fans flock to London for all-German CL final

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Hungary's Orban: Merkel policy like Nazi invasion

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Pricey Reichstag visitor centre scrapped

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Some fear inflation if small euro coins cut

European Union proposals to eliminate one and two cent euro coins is annoying some Germans, including a few at the Bundesbank, while others think an EU idea to introduce one and two-euro notes is a good one. READ () »

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