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Updated: 2 Nov 11 14:01 CET
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Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan criticized Germany’s attitude to its Turkish minority on his arrival in Berlin to celebrate the 50th anniversary of a "guest worker" agreement between the two countries.
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there may be racism in germany as in anywhere else in the world, but from our experience as Kurds..despite Turkey's pressure, Germany is much more respective of our cultural rights than our native country Turkey.
If he cares so much about the wellbeing of the Turks in Germany maybe he can take some of them home with him to care even more. Speaking of human rights, Erdogan is one of the last to open his mouth, regarding the situation of the Kurds, the genocide of the Armenians, the situation of Christians in Turkey etc. I'm so tired of this muscle-playing, hopefully Merkel gives him a cold shoulder.
But for sure, people do not have to use it if it is something in their personal life. I mean, nobody can tell people "if you are in Germany, you must speak to people (friends etc.) in German in your private life." (like Kurdish people in Turkey). This is clear. If you are in a government office in any country, you are expected to speak the native language.
The things which are told in previous comments are pointless and will only serve mess and fascism.
Also, in that news, to tell truth, I could not see anything which is related to "genocide!" (which EU people like most to talk about in every matter). This is really funny.
He has moved his government towards the east and an Islamic republic.
I would think he is more inclined to think in terms of a future Arabic coalition.
Remarks that people of other descents asking for citizenship, should not be required to learn the host countries language is obtuse.
Belgium is a good example of in house language problems.
"Native" Germans, Americans, French, Japanese, etc. are not reproducing enough to maintain the population "pyramid" needed to support domestic economic growth or the welfare / pension plans.
These countries (Germany, USA, France) truly need these people (Turks, Mexican).
So, either "get busy" and start having more children or just accept that they (Turkey, Mexico) are going to be complaining more, and more, and more, since they are essential to the survival of the economic systems of the industrialized countries. Or... invent a new economic system.
But, "getting busy" would be a lot more fun.
Muslims in India, although generally poor financially, breed large families and somehow survive amicably. They answer any question to mean that God's Grace cannot be abridged with ephemeral wishes of human beings, by simply saying, it is all "Allah ki Dua" or the 'Grace of God'. Probably it serves no purpose blaming contracted guest workers with imbued contentment.
Majority of Turkey's kurdish population came from iran at 16. century long after Turks came to Anatolia at 11. century.And southeast anatolian kurds accepted ottoman hegemony with free will for protection against the iran.
This is a distorted news. He made this comment about the proof of basic German requirement for family reunification visa. This is a common belief that it is a violation of constitutional protection of family. What he meant was that this procedure violates German constitution and European laws.
It is very simple to distort a news...but it is very hard to understand a comment if you don't want to really understand it..
Finally, take a look at this case : http://www.lg2g.info/Foreigners-Law_Articles-on-Residency/proof-of-german-knowledge-when-immigrating-to-a-german.html
Prime Minister Erdogans remarks prior to the visit while appeasing the conservatives back home could possibly bolster and incite the intentions of others with a nationalistic passion. It doesn't take much research to realize there are vast differences culturally between Europe and Turkey let along between each individual EU country. And a cursory review of history tells us much. Germany is Germany and when one commits to making Germany their home they are committing to follow the Basic law and all of its tenets. Ones personal rights and culture while acceptable back home are usurped with ones decision to live here even if it is temporary, which is hardly the case in most instances.
Cultural diversity is a wolf in sheeps clothing. There are big differences in how one views personal responsibility, religion, society, attitude, education, relationships. Add to that the vacuum created by one of the lowest birthrates in the EU and the extremely large families among immigrants and an uneasiness among nationals should be expected. This trend I suggest somewhat exists in the US as well. Only there it is a matter of tens of millions of illegals. The US has its own set of problems in this area but they are similar in many ways. My sense on the toughness of the immigration laws in Germany is this is the governments attempt to stem the tide of immigration if not get those in country to accept Germany as it is and not demand change.
When one looks at what is happening in the EU and in the US with immigration one begins to realise and see recognise and understand the subtle change in demographics. The result is some see the change and do not like it yet they remain silent. But while remaining silent they may begin to wonder if the shrill cry of the far right , while not at all in a agreement with their philosophy and policy, may have a grain of in it.
If you want to live in Germany become a German through and through. You still have your cultural heritage to relate to and you still have your former homeland to visit and consider. Don't impose your culture and your nationalism on your new homeland. One gives up that right when they determine to live somewhere else. And when your former homelands Prime Minister makes scurrilous commentary prior to visiting your new homeland let them know they are wrong.
And this was about the spouses of immigrants? Oh dear, then this is the worst piece of journalism ever. This site is a rag.
So true! Immigrants should not be FORCED to learn German, but SEDUCED to it! Like does Spain force immigrants to learn Spanish, France to learn French or UK to learn English? Immigrants in those countries do it themselves, without anyone forcing them to do so! German politicians should take example from them!
"So true! Immigrants should not be FORCED to learn German, but SEDUCED to it! Like does Spain force immigrants to learn Spanish, France to learn French or UK to learn English? Immigrants in those countries do it themselves, without anyone forcing them to do so! German politicians should take example from them! "
Thank you Asgarli, and in the meantime let the taxpayer keep paying for Interpreters because your Countrymen can't be bothered to learn the language, and why should they? Der Staat keeps on paying, Good night Europa.