Published: 4 Jul 11 17:32 CET | Print version
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Germany’s armed forces has officially ended conscription, heralding a new era for the now all-volunteer Bundeswehr.
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Your comments about this article:
hmmm, I must've missed that.
You must be a coward. Listen, the nice part of being a soldier is the glory of protecting your homeland, to secure the beauty and unity of your country. A country needs strong and healthy soldiers like steel who will defend their country with heart.
I hope that is sarcasm - otherwise it sounds like a direct quote from a training manual of the "Wehrmacht" !
15 years as a soldier and you fail to identify with the "nice side" of soldier? Nothing else.
Yet another underclass army compareable to US army.
Oh and anti eu, your a punk,
Beside the nick i kinda like the comment [#9]. The nick is just too serious yet, make it a bit more trashy or trolly.
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First of all, there are many words I would use to describe the life of a professional soldier (honorable, brave, patriotic, etc), but "nice" is not one of them.
Secondly, I didn't specify in what capacity I served my country, for all you know I could be a secretary/clerk at the Bundestag. And no, I'm not a soldier (at least not in the strictly military sense of the word)...
So you are making your accusations against me, just because I love my country. Listen, people like you are tricksters; they are against everything, like nation, religion, and unity of a country. What does loving Germany has to do anything with 70 years ago. I love Germany and I say Germany is the most blessed country in the world, with the greatest people in the world. people of peace, knowledge and creativeness. People such as yourself condemn anyone who loves Germany, and in a biased way not only spread hate agaist Germany, but you are like a sneaky fox ready to accuse anyone, just becuase they love thier nation. Yet you promote your ideas with trickery and hate. Any one who talks about peace, love and the love of their country, you hate and you accuse and relate them to World War 2. How sad and disturbed. Every Germany loves their country becuase it is their fatherland, and their great ancesters have used their heart and soul to build it brick by brick. God will bless Germany and help it succeed in a healthy and prosperous direction. God bless Germany and Germany people, and may he always protect us. Peace to everyone and love to the world.
On a serious note, maybe the way to say it is that "soldiers can be nice" at times, depnding on the situation. actions such as helping children, the sick, etc.
@ trash head, the brilliant intellectual whose enlightening comments are always of significant depth and relevance. Not!
Tell you what, after you next bong hit of the trash you smoke, go out and find yourself a one of those underclass American Army soldiers. Be a man/boy, walk up and call him underclass and slap one of them. Use a racial epitet too. Don't worry, you'll be fine. After your success there, find one of those army underclass officers and engage him or her in an in depth topic or your choice. Demonstrate your mastery of how to smoke dope.
@ german-guardian_ your last comments are just fine and thank you. Well said. Like rnntynntynn always says, enough of WW2. Throw the 30 years war back at folks. Blame the Italians for the Roman invasions. Better yet, let those who live in the past, die there.
Yes I am (I've been been playing in the sandpit for the past few months, obviously without an internet connection). I really am trying to be more polite around civilized folk, but certain people make it extremely difficult to be cordial...
Nationalism and religion are the two most dangerous forces in the world and have been the cause of most aggression and wars. Congratulations you seem to encapsulate both!
I dont feel individually responsible for what people / governments do in the name of religion. I have not found anywhere in the Bible where the God I have decided to place my salvation in has or will instruct me to kill in his name or for his purpose.
At the end of the day God gives us free will to decide our own salvation but it is extremely important to seperate the Faith from the perversions man injects into them. After all, this is your soul we are talking about.
@ Frenemy
After reading your reply, I see what your saying now. I guess when I read "nice" even though it seemed like a peculiar choice of wordage I thought it was just lost in translation and inserted my own impression of what word should be there.
Surely you must have worries that other people fight,kill and do/and have done, heinous things in the name of the religion you believe in?
Your omnipotent god, gave this ability of "free will" so that all the bestiality, cruelty etc. etc. perpetrated by mankind can be explained(very handy)! Well all I can say that he must have been or is a very cruel and perverted entity to allow this to happen when he has so much power.
By the way you don't have to worry about my soul thanks very much.
Sarcasm is for fools like you.
Could you list some of the rights your God gives you. If he exists that is !!
The rights God has countries is to build themselves up and to protect themselves. Germany will be at peace with everyone, but it will also be stronger than everyone, both military and industrially and creativeness. May God bless Germany, may God bless German people, may God bring peace, love and joy to the world and lead us in his direction. Peace, love, strength...
You sound like a seriously disturbed person !!!
I can accept that you may be a patriotic American citizen but that doesn't prove the existence of your god. In any case why should this debatable god give you ANY rights except the ones you personally decide to have in his/her name !!
If you're going to do it, do it, or just forget it. Germany was wise to stay out of this "flying circus".
However, I'd say that society has defintiely gone down hill since conscription ended, as a general thing.
A few years of military life is a great thing and you can definitely get on better with veterans than these ever more unbiquitous "terminal civlian" types who will, somehow, just never get it.
They aren't making the world into a very nice place.
It is true that military service really is a great thing for some young men and women. It shapes them into young people of integrity and purpose, whether or not they choose to pursue a career in the military. Of course, I've also seen other young people experience the same "flourishing" in a university environment or after starting a career that uses their talents.
On the same note, military service can also be detrimental to some individuals - it is not that there's anything wrong with those young people, but rather their personalities simply clash strongly against the personality of military "types." I've seen good young men go into the service, voluntarily or otherwise, and come out in much worse moral and intellectual shape than they entered.
All that aside, forcing people into a role based on perceived "behavioral benefits" is a terribly bad idea. Lots of things are good - but they cease being good when you force people to do them.
The gender inequality matter only made it worse, and even less justifiable. Yes, there is something wrong in this day and age with legally requiring men to do six or more months of government service, and not requiring the same from women. No, men and women aren't the same, but they are both certainly capable of non-combative military service or, more popularly, working in hospitals and care centers. Cries about "duty to ones nation" and so forth ring hollow when apparently only 50% of the population has those obligations. That such a grossly unjust and unequal practice lasted for so long, mostly unaddressed by the same government officials proudly preaching about their "egalitarian culture" and so forth, only speaks to the power of "tradition" to justify unjustifiable laws.
Hopefully the few remaining European countries still conscripting young men into involuntary servitude, merely because of their gender - that's you Norway, Finland, Austria, and a tiny handful of others - will follow suit.
This is a very good day for Germany.