Published: 11 Jun 11 14:04 CET | Print version
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20110611-35603.html
German officials say that the likely source of the deadly E. coli epidemic, a vegetable sprout farm in Lower Saxony, will probably not face criminal prosecution.
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I am of the understanding that the farm produced Bean sprouts and not Brussel Sprouts. To the local, can you please clarify in your translations?
I hope this is all over but something doesn't add up, how about the whole truth?
Ironic. Final verification is still pending, but they went ahead and named this farm. Now, not to be too critical, what happens if final verification cannot be made? Can the farm owners sue the government? Will this be like the "Spanish cucumbers" debacle?
Essentially, it seems the package of "organic" sprouts in which they found the bacteria, was in a garbage can.
The corporate-dominated TV media in the U.S.A. is spreading propanganda that is fait accompli. This is consistent with the American Agribusiness and FrankenFood Industry's enduring campaign of continually trying to put "Organic" and "E.Coli" in the same sentence.
The corporate-dominated TV media in the U.S.A. is spreading propanganda that is fait accompli. This is consistent with the American Agribusiness and FrankenFood Industry's enduring campaign of continually trying to put "Organic" and "E.Coli" in the same sentence.
Very Interesting, and certainly every crisis brings out opportunists, the way some ambulances, and even funerals, bring out the attorneys.
And my condolences to the families of all those who perished in this...Sincerely.
Here it was a garbage can, which could have been exposed to residues common diapers, spoiled meat, carryind ecoli and slmonella, and everything in between.. That would make the Garbage can the only link? This Ecoli, found in our bowels, as I understand , is a super strain, which even washing hands would not have stopped. It also, implies, there may be a carrier, immune. So we may not have seen the last of this. Ruling out the remotest improbable cause, a home brew concoction, or deliberate contamination, we may have to resign ourselves to the fact , that nature at the microbial level, is far more opportunistic, and adaptive, then we could ever imagine.
Isn't it odd that all this illness and only one little package of contaminated sprouts?
"@FIUMAN.....'American sue-crazy'? Until I got to Germany I never heard of personal legal insurance. Maybe 1/2 my German friends carry it and I know no one in the States who does."
I guess it's a cultural thing. It has to do with risk aversion. My observation is that Americans tend to be willing to accept greater risks, at least in some areas of life. You are much more likely in the U.S. to get your pants sued off for things that wouldn't even go to court here in Germany, and yet, as you said, personal legal insurance is nearly unheard of in America. Whereas in Germany, even if you get sued, no court will award a plaintiff millions of $$ like it happens frequently in the U.S. ... I guess most Germans are simply more afraid of bankruptcy, even if the risk of it is smaller than in the U.S.
That could also be one reason why healthcare and health insurance are still such a contentious issue in America. The very real possibility of medical bankruptcy, a term that pretty much doesn't exist in Germany and describes being up to your neck in debt from expensive medical treatments with hardly a chance of ever paying it off, should be reason enough to enact mandatory health insurance. And yet, among others, a great number of low-wage blue collar workers in the U.S. are against it for fear of losing monthly pay, although they are at the greatest risk of going broke over medical bills.
I think your correct. I have personal legal and liability insurance here in Germany but not in the United States.
In addition to the rarity of disease caused by this particular strain, there is the resistance of it to multiple antibiotics, including recently introduced drugs unlikely to be used in agriculture because of their cost. In general, antibiotic resistance is the result of widespread inappropriate use of antibiotics. However, the routine use of antibiotics in farm animals in Europe ended in 2006, and studies of outpatient (human) antibiotic usage in Europe have repeatedly shown that greatest use is in southern Europe and least in the north where this outbreak has occurred.
So, we have an outbreak of food-borne illness linked to organic bean sprouts locally grown without the use of manure, with a bacterial strain unusual in many ways. This does not make sense. Some will suggest bioterrorism using a laboratory-produced bacterial strain, considering the possible Korea link and the antibiotic resistance. But this does not make sense either; 1)it would make more sense to use a more common STEC such as O157, and 2) the antibiotic resistance does not make the strain more deadly, as antibiotics are not used in the treatment of the illness, because doing so can precipitate the release of more toxin from the bacteria already present.
Very strange.
Is there not a single article on this site that someone cannot somehow connect negatively with the U. S.? I have no idea how you came to this conclusion.
The second question seems to ask whether Germany is somehow different than the US in these cases. It's hard to say, but I can be certain somebody in the US would be filing a suit already. I'm not proud of that, but it remains true. In the US, personal liability is often included in the homeowner's insurance policy, so it may not be as common to purchase it separately.
Personally, I would hope the "victim mentality" doesn't cross the pond. I'm sick of it here in the US, and nobody else needs it.