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Hitler knew about WWII flight to UK by Heß

Published: 29 May 11 12:45 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20110529-35329.html

Adolf Hitler knew about his deputy Rudolf Heß' solo flight to Britain during World War II, according to a newly unearthed document.

Der Spiegel magazine reported that a historian has found a document in the Russian state archives in Moscow that could undermine the assumption that Heß had acted without the Nazi leader's knowledge.

The document, a 28-page handwritten statement by Karl-Heinz Pintsch, Heß’ long-serving adjutant, claims that the flight of May 10, 1941 was part of ongoing negotiations between Berlin and London.

Pintsch, who had been captured by the Red Army, wrote the report in 1948 while in a Soviet prison camp. He was eventually released in 1955.

According to his version of events, the flight had been agreed in advance with the British. Furthermore, Heß had been given the task of “using all means at his disposal, to achieve if not a military alliance between England and Germany against Russia, then at the very least the neutralization of England.”

At the time of Heß’ flight to Scotland, Nazi Germany was just weeks away from launching its massive invasion of the Soviet Union, dubbed Operation Barbarossa.

Heß was arrested after he landed in Scotland and after World War II he was sentenced to life imprisonment for war crimes. He killed himself in Berlin’s Spandau prison on Aug. 17, 1987.

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14:39 May 29, 2011 by DavidtheNorseman
While certainly possible I would be highly suspicious of a document made up by a prisoner of the Soviets that worked towards Soviet propaganda success......just saying. I suspect Herr Pintsch would have written that he was a green monkey from Mars if it was suggested to him under the tender ministrations of the KGB...
14:56 May 29, 2011 by mike_1983
hess did not kill himself! he was killed by the british secret service. at the time there was alot of public support for his release and they couldnt risk him getting out and unfavourable information about england and nazi germanys ties/negotiations coming out!!!
15:14 May 29, 2011 by fritzwiz
I read a book written by a British Army M.D. assigned to Spandau who claimed that the man called Hess was an imposter as he didn't have any sign of the chest wound Hess suffered in WW I. The book went on to an elaborate theory as to why some one would do that. It looked like disinformation to me.
17:11 May 29, 2011 by DOZ
The silencing of Nazi-Germany after WW2 was imperative to the Brits, French, Canucks and Yankee's. They didn't want their Puppet Citizens to know that they had actually backed Russia's plan of taking over Europe. In fact the Cold-War that enveloped the World was a direct result of Britians stupidity. In short, blame it all on Britian, USA and Canada. Right now Germany should watch Stephen Harper very closely to see if he is trying to De-Stabalize Germany.
17:52 May 29, 2011 by Loth
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18:22 May 29, 2011 by wood artist
@Loth

That is the most amazing perversion of history I have heard in some time. You need to study a bit more, and perhaps even read a little about Stalin. He had purged the Red Army of nearly all of its leadership and had no desire to get into the war. He also knew that Hitler would come east eventually, but figured he had another year, that the attack would not happen until 1942. He had no desire to get into that fight, especially not in 1941. The idea that "Zionists" were funding Stalin is more than slightly over the top. You suggest that it was the same people who funded Hitler and then changed sides...so the concept that "Zionists" would fund Hitler is true comedy. Take a moment to read Mein Kampf and you'll see how likely a "Zionist" would support him.

Now, as to this report, I find the timing quite interesting. In 1948, Russia had imposed the blockade on Berlin, and was trying everything short of a shooting war to chase the western allies out of the city. Anything they could use to discredit the US or the British would be fair game, and if you read the propaganda they were putting out, they literally tried EVERYTHING. The Berliners, led by Reuter, were smarter than that, and the Luftbrücke succeeded in breaking the blockade.

Given there is nothing more that this one paper to support the idea, I guess I'm skeptical. The timing, and the fact that it was written by a POW still incarcerated 3 years after the war ended just doesn't quite pass the sniff test. I can't imagine no one has found any hint of these "negotiations" in any other place.

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18:34 May 29, 2011 by Flint
Lot of crackpots posting here.
22:20 May 29, 2011 by OkieinBerlin
flint, I'm with you on this one -- lots of crackpots, lots of crackpot history. It's amazing how every crackpot has his own "true history" here.
01:00 May 30, 2011 by FIUMAN
I give this report zero credence. The thought that the British would come to an understanding with the Nazi German government after the betrayal of the Munich agreement is not plausible. In fact we have KNOWN for years that the British were actively courting the USA to join in the conflict against Nazism at the very time Hess made his flight.
08:59 May 30, 2011 by Gilly58
What a load of crap....where do you guys get this stuff from...
09:43 May 30, 2011 by Angry Ami
Well every documentary that I've seen here in Germany states that uncle Adolf was pissed off beyond belief, because old Rudy took off for the UK at the behest of an astrologer, who was executed once uncle found out his identity.
09:59 May 30, 2011 by wenddiver
It really doesn't matter, Germany was headed for trouble the second they put this frustrated little Artist in charge.

As Winton Churchill said Upon learning of Hitler's crazy declaration of war on the US after Pearl Harbor "I went to sleep and slep the sleep of the saved".

It was the most collasal F-Up of the Century to go to war and completely un-necessary. Hess's move was the right one, only a negotiated peace with the West gave Germany any chance for survival.
10:14 May 30, 2011 by freechoice
now how did a low ranking soldier managed to rise to the top of the leadership?

don't you see any conspiracy theories here?
17:56 May 30, 2011 by michael4096
Why did Hitler open a second front in the east at all? Probably, because he realised that he was short of natural resources, particularly fossil fuels - which were abundant in Russia, ask Angie. And, Britain, even if he could take it, was no better off.

Now, if you were forced into knowingly stretching your resources, wouldn't you consider reducing your vulnerability - a truce on the western front would sound good. It wouldn't have to be for long...

"how did a low ranking soldier managed to rise to the top"

...because, Germany is a land of opportunity where anyone, no matter how humble their background, can become president...

Sorry, nearly forgot myself for a moment... so engrossed in Disney there
20:06 May 31, 2011 by Jack Kerouac
Hitler opened up a second front because the East was his only real goal. He was surprised when Britain and France declared war on him. I guess he told one too many lies and lost credibility with the west after violation of the Munich agreement. He wanted lebensraum - read Mein Kampf. H-man had an obsessive, pseudo-historical view of Germany's role in the east, established by nationlists as far back as the late 19th century. That idea was nothing new, and obviously flawed.

I am also skepticle of this repoty. Russians would do anything for a "confession" or any evidence that the West was lying about something.
01:12 June 1, 2011 by whpmgr
(Tongue in Cheek) You all have fallen for the perfect propaganda. There never was a WWII, and this is all a dream. Hitler was really this young, really nice minded chap. He wanted only the best for his new found country, and only wanted to share the purity of its culture with the rest of Europe. A few wackos in the UK and France decided they didnt want the greatness from outside of their country and fabricated teh great lie we all now believe was WWII. Nope never happened, the battle of the Bulge, the great answer of "Nuts", come on, soemone would have said "F-You" not Nuts. And here we are all being taken back in again by the new release of soem obviously faked paper about Hess.

I remember when Hess died, I was thinking, why would someone keep this guy in jail until he died. They weren't yet doing wholesale deathkamps yet. He couldn't have known too much. WHy would you keep this one guy, when all others were gone or released and spend the money on guards, food, doctors, etc, for this one guy? Why doesn't soemone do aresearch paper (without plaguerizing) on this topic? WHat could have been so dangerous baout Hess by the 80's? I remember his son and wife tlaking about him in the news trying to get him out when they found the cancer, or whatever it was. I understand why he would kill himself with an electrical cord, 93 years old. BUt why was he really held? Many people speculated that he wasnt hess, and that he was an imposter, why would anyone go through that for so long? COuldn't be true. BUt hey, I am just another crazy Crackpot. I just happened to be in Germany during some of those years he was there and when he died. I just didn't get it.

LAst words-for now: ANyone who believes that the story from this guy who was his aid and a russian captive, must be wanting to believe anything. maybe Hitler and Elvis are together drinking Tequilla and taking pills soemwhere in Graceland.

One thing is sure, some day, hopefully we will know what this guy knew or did that kept him there all by himself for so many years. WHy couldn't they put him in a priseon soemwhere and get rid of the building? WHy couldn't the guards talk to him? What could he have told them about Russia, who was the main reason he never left Spandau? Damn to be a fly on the wall.
18:20 June 3, 2011 by Cynical175
I always find it suspicious that Hess was kept in total silaence.

He was not allowed to have visitors. From what I understand he was allowed writing material but what ever he wrote had to be, and was destroyed.

For a person who did not commited the horrific crimes done during WWII the sentence was totally out of line.

Unless a government (the English) had to hide some scandals. I cannot imagine that the Russians and the US had anything to hide.

Like in every war the victorious never commits any crimes.
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