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As Germany's robust economic recovery continues, the country’s companies are finding it increasingly hard to find enough skilled workers. Kyle James reports on the impending labour shortage.
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Laws and social norms are different,if you are educated in a field that is in need, chances are you can find a good job in the USA,why would you move here,ya the social system is better but if you have good pay and Blue cross/shield,you are covered, the rest of the social benefits are mainly for unemployment .
The USA has it all if you have money,,great outdoors,travel not tripping over the next guy.Driving with out all that stress of the autobahn,,shopping is a pleasure,you don't have to pay for TV,,no no way would I move here if I was an engineer making 100 K+ in the USA,its not that good..here...Me I am married to a German and that makes things a lot easier than if your not..
Your chances are far better than 1 out of 10 of not having the hospital mess you up as stated in an article on the local.(maybe all those malpractice suits helped..
Getting employees that can function on the same level as a German in Germany is not that easy..
I'm an IT specialist and I'm REALLY looking forward to move to Germany this year (find a Frau, raise a family and so). I speak a bit of German and I guess this probably will be the main problem trying to find a job in Germany. I just hope the companies/government give some credit to people willing to integrate, learn German and mainly BE a German.
Greetings from brazil.
The shortage will magically
disappear as more foreigners and young German students will be
flock to the profession.
I just feel bad for those who will be suckered in by german advertisement only to get here and find there is no sun, food (eggs lol), shopping..etc...
I like german cars. the end.
western world . Why ?
Because for years they have been used as a commodity by the industry.
After years on hard study in university they got low salaries (relative to other real professions),
long working hours, low social/company status and frequently are laid off .
It Is not surprising to me that young smart guys don"t start studying engineering at all.
All the current "skill shortage " whinging aims only to dump salary levels to increase
corporate profits.
But developing countries have low salaries and no shortage. China must have loads...
In here many jobs are very demanding in terms of requirements. You need to know this and that, etc... there isn't almost any graduate jobs and this raises a problem, because everyone tries the graduates ones. The others can stay there for months because companies rather not hire anyone than to hire young people. Experience calls is in every single application and with the number of graduates bellow the number of retireés its hard to fill the gap.
Another thing is although you can be learning the langauge or speak at least the basic companies don't care for it. They wanted people with a set of roles and estabilshed skills. Money, money... no ones wants to lose even a bit of it.
As for the reasons you give, seeing how you list the paltry TV tax as a reason to shun Germany, it's difficult to take you seriously anyway. FYI, the USA are bankrupt: from the federal state on down to many municipalities, and new, sometimes very creative taxes are mushrooming all over the land. Be glad you're here and not there.
OTOH I, too, disbelieve claims of a skills shortage. Inflexible (and not infrequently absurd) requirements as well as unattractive salaries have more to do with it IMO (as in the US, incidentally). At least in Germany there isn't the insane pressure of rampant immigration and the demographic trends are in our favour but even so it isn't so easy to find a job, shortage or no shortage.
Lastly it's important to have more than a basic command of german, esp. if your job involves a lot of writing, and that will always be an obstacle.
I presume you are referring to the U.S., mind you, for engineers around here seem truly respected and well-compensated as far as I know. Plus, it is far from a career drawback to be a white male.
Regarding the skill gap, it might be the Ruhrgebiet experience talking, but I can't say that the stiff a-holes who pass as managers in this country are exactly a big draw for international talent. Living here is interesting, though, and offers more positives than the U.S. has been coming up with of late.
@Dinho Can't say that I followed what you wrote, though it seems as if it would have been of interest. Could you please clarify?
The key to all of this actually very simple. If you were to provide a thorough education for all of your citizens, one that is based upon an effective psychology, then I'm sure you would find it rather easy to be successful in all things.
Sehr leicht!
What I meant say is; Most jobs available have incredible stupid requirements
e.g.: mechanical engineer, CATIA v5, SAP, electric wiring, 5 years experience in chassis development, experience in project management, fluency in technical german and english, etc...
I mean unless everyone in US, UK or EU studies and develops their professional career with idea of someday moving to germany to work there in engineer I find it a bit hard to match every single thing.
On the other hand we have graduate and graduate jobs. If you are a graduate seeing the job description were experienced is called here and there, you might not think in applying.
For all the hassle of bringing experienced engineers from UK, US, or elsewhere you need to compensate them well financially at least. In many aspects Germany is better than most all other countries (security, social benefits, etc...) but that isn't enough to "catch" people.
I know many say that US will eventually go bankrupt, etc... but when that happens pretty much all europe follows because the US market dictates the market here as well.
Over the age of 30 particularly in country areas work is even more difficult to find.
For people receiving unemployment benefits it does really not meet the weekly cost of living and that is an incentive to find work that is difficult to find when someone does not have the qualifications and a person has reached a ccertain age. This may sound incorrect, speaking from the number of non interviews from job applications sent to me they are valid facts.
Going out and getting qualifications seems to be of little use. I have been working on a diploma in hospitality and not much seems to have taken place there though I don't need the diploma for what I have applied for, I need the cert111 which I have a pr requesit for the diploma. Still looking for work, though that may have something to do with my being well past 30
Sorry, but your comment makes no logical sense at all. Poorly structured argument and unclear premisies.
or even chinese for that matter
Germany would have to increase the base pay for attracting most job applicants and this would force them to increase the pay to be equivalent for their indigenous work force.
Germany should give better stipends and easy access to education and better pay for workers,now as this problem will persist into the next decade. It surely will not be solved from High Tech foreign workers.
This is me:
- EU national (ie. work and residence permit not a problem).
- IT degree (with honors), MBA (few months to have it done), and 10 years of work experience in Europe, US and Asia.
- Fluency in 3 languages (but none of them is German).
- Car and motorbike driver's license.
- Under 35 years old.
- Never done drugs, never got drunk, never smoked.
- I can fill a wall with my reference letters.
This are my "requirements" when I look for jobs:
- Must be Berlin-based (due to family reasons).
- Must have a real contract (i.e. No payments "under the table).
I am willing to do ANY job for ANY salary. I am willing to start from the very bottom until my German is ok, and yet I can't find any job.
Any yes, I know where the problem is: My German sucks. I just wish there was a company out there willing to hire me while I improve my German, so if there is any company in Berlin as desperately looking for employees as the article suggests, here is one: jobseeker_berlin@hotmail.com.
Everyone is always talking about how great the social benefits are here in German, which they are (other than their horrible public healthcare). I just do not ever see use for most of them unless I am unable to take care of myself. Even with private insurance I see the doctor once a year, but it makes an enormous difference that my daughter has private coverage.
I know some people are going to take offense and claim I am saying people who need a social safety net are lazy degenerates, which is not what I am saying. Just anyone that really has a skill set which is in demand is not going to care so much about what they get if they could not find a job.
Social safety nets are not a lure for people who are confident they can make it on their own. Lots of vacation days and salary/quality of life are. Germany does have the vacation days, but this does not apply to all jobs nor all salary ranges.
Deep thinkers? lol
I found many jobs and applied which were posted in other countries, because they were in English. But France and Germany are not willing to do that. But its true that every day hell of a jobs are posted on german sites but its very hard to find a one english job.
Desire and passion alone simply aren't enough. You must have a clear understanding of every endeavor you take on.
With the necessary knowledege, a person could accomplish almost anything. Verstehen?
http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2011/01/06/pm-more-turks-leaving-germany-than-coming-in/
30% of European University educated Turks are returning to Turkey although many were born in the U.S.
They go back because they are the top of the food chain there where in Germany they are like anybody else.
Engineering has been undervalued, leading to lower salaries than exist in the financial and other sectors. This has lead to more graduates, even with engineering degrees, choosing to persue a career in Accounting, Banking or other position in the financial sector.
This coupled with an almost xenophobic distrust of outsiders has lead to the current state of affairs.
The EU has not helped, while the Euro has provided a single currency, the lack of a common language within the Euro zone has made the realities of the free movement of labour almost impossible.
What Germany and nearly every other European economy needs is immigration in order to provide the skills that the employers desparately need.
I am: College Educated
Experienced in Event Planning/ Production, Hospitality, and Marketing
Extremely interested in working in Germany (I have all the necessary paperwork)
Thanks, Erin
Thanks for the clarification. I thought that was roughly what you meant, but wasn't sure. I agree with you regarding the ridiculously microscopic job requirement write-ups around here. I understand this (and have further had such related to me), not to mention it being a bit obvious as it is, that this is a means to "reserve" the job first to those candidates who have been educated "in-house". This is in strict opposition to the U.S., which does the same to filter out local talent in favor of foreign labor arriving at under-market values (for now). Typically solid long-term thinking from the beasts running the Fortune 500 into the ground one at a time over there.
Of course, if Germany actually wants to attract and retain top talent they should stop playing that game. It's an obvious excuse to pay themselves more for the same job and place foreigners at the end of the queue. In the meantime, I get to continue to re-write their "kompetent" code (speaking of, do any Germans bother to learn how to program in the course of getting an "Informatik" education or is it all about writing a Pflichtheft?!?)...
@leftbehind33
"I'll never be seen as German"
Not true at all, and not necessarily a problem regardless. It depends on whether you adhere to your American values upon living here and, of course, upon your German language skills.
You have to be a genetic German with family book to be one....
I have lived here 25+ years work in a German company,married to a German.I am accepted and even respected at times (:> but nobody that is a "real German" would consider me one,or anyone else not from pure German stock...check out the web site I gave you, they have need for talent...
Ever see "Mein Neues Leben" on TV?
I´m a german IT engineer and I don´t get a job.
The german government works together with the bosses of the componies
to push up the salary of the workers. Indian IT specialists which come to Germany was workless after 6 month they start here. I try now to get out from Germany .
I try to search a job in the US,Canada, New Zealand, Uk or in the scandinavian countries. German countries will fire you when you are about 40 years old.
If you want to star after your university education nobody gives you a job.
Here a enough engineers and IT-specialist which are workless or the must work at a gasstation.
Good Luck
Peter