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A group of major German newspapers and a human rights advocacy group Thursday published an appeal against the criminalisation of whistleblower website Wikileaks, saying the site deserved as much protection as traditional media.
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This reminds me of the speech about secrecy by John F. Kennedy:
http://bit.ly/1mwjJY
1: Do the American People deserve know the truth regarding the ongoing wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen?
2: Could a larger question be how can an army private access so much secret information?
3: Why is the hostility mostly directed at Assange, the publisher, and not at our government's failure to protect classified information?
4: Are we getting our money's worth of the 80 Billion dollars per year spent on intelligence gathering?
5: Which has resulted in the greatest number of deaths: lying us into war or Wikileaks revelations or the release of the Pentagon Papers?
6: If Assange can be convicted of a crime for publishing information that he did not steal, what does this say about the future of the first amendment and the independence of the internet?
7: Could it be that the real reason for the near universal attacks on Wikileaks is more about secretly maintaining a seriously flawed foreign policy of empire than it is about national security?
8: Is there not a huge difference between releasing secret information to help the enemy in a time of declared war, which is treason, and the releasing of information to expose our government lies that promote secret wars, death and corruption?
9: Was it not once considered patriotic to stand up to our government when it is wrong?
Thomas Jefferson had it right when he advised 'Let the eyes of vigilance never be closed.'
And no, state secrets are not public domain and people DO NOT have the right to read them. They are secret for a reason and any moron that thinks it is his right to read them is exactly that, a moron....
Bradley Manning is not being prosecuted ... under *any* law.
He has been held without charge for 7 months in solitary. He is in conditions tantamount to torture. He is not even a prisoner of war. The US government is (again) acting illegally in holding him without charge and in the conditions in which he is currently being charged. The US government seems to think it can do what it wants and that is what Wikileaks is against. When I see your comment I can understand why.
I don't agree with everything that WikiLeaks has published, but I do agree with the site itself.
I think you have a naive view of the issue. Information like what was leaked is secret f a reason. And if you handle this type of information, you sign that you will not diclose it to any unauthorized person or you will be prosecuted. He may not be charged with anything yet, but the full extent of what he leaked is not yet fully assesed. Hence, why he is held. He did it, we all know it so he is being held until they figure out what they want to do - simple and that is how it works.
I bet you would feel differently if Wikileaks published all your personal info about you and all your dirty laundry (if you have any that is)... The public has no right to know information that is classified by the government. Assuming you are not American, I am sure your gov has the same rules.
They are illegally forcing legitimate businesses to sever links with Wikileaks. The US goverment has no right to demand this of independant businesses.
That Bradley Manning broke US Military Law cannot be denied, but he is being held in illegal conditions - more illegal actions from the US government. You will also note that this article deals with the Wikileaks site, not with Bradley Manning.
The crux of the matter of what the newspapers etc. are saying is that the US government have acted illegally in their reaction to Wikileaks.
To return to the issue of Bradley Manning, you have to ask yourself why he did it. Money was very probably a factor but I doubt the only one. What did he see that made him think "the world must know about this"?.
Maybe one day you will be fortunate enough to think clearly, and for yourself.
How old are you? Your msg certainly sounds naiive. Most Europeans seem to think this way. Play nice and no one will hurt you. There should be no secrets or dirty play or thought. That won't get you far....
My god, liberals will be the death of the Western world as we know it....
I stand in solidarity with WikiLeaks, and I wholeheartedly agree with the thrust of this article.
Because 'Liberals' will execute people? Most liberals are opposed to executions, or unlawful internment, or arrests without charges. Seems rather life affirming if you think about.
When the only card you have to play is fear, you are holding a losing hand.
What would you expect from an ignorant American GI? He joined the military to go kill people. That's how he gets his jollies. He certainly wasn't recruited for his brain power.
Figureshe stands in Solidarity with Wikileaks...Typical lawyer, thinks he knows everything.... A little info for you to McFly -I'm not a GI. Helloooooo!!!!!!!
God save me from you ever representing me in court....
For starters, your analogy is flawed: private secrets are not equivalent to state ones; even if they were, people who violate the law also loose some of their privacy.
And insisting on the private's contract breaking as being a big deal while the whole point is the infinitely more serious illegal acts by the US is plain ridiculous.
But you're right when you say "Play nice and no one will hurt you. [...] That won't get you far...". That's why we should not play nice and let it for the US media to open the eyes of the American population, or why we shouldn't trust UN to oppose US' illegal actions, illegal wars, and war crimes: and finally, that's why people have to take action, and wikileaks is just doing it's part.
And the climax: "My god, liberals will be the death of the Western world as we know it..."
That's nothing short of incredible. How can someone say something so stupid? In case you really don't know: it's the existence of liberals what makes the "Western World" different (and, IMHO, better) to live in than, let's say, China.
Not to worry. I would never represent someone of your persuasion in court or anywhere else. Even lawyers have standards.
Your conflation of leaking government memos relating to various wars (information the public is entitled to have) with leaking information that invades a person's privacy (information the public is NOT entitled to have) is ridiculously moronic. That's why I might be forgiven for inferring that you're an American GI, as it fits the profile. Maybe you're just a mercenary.
You all have no clue what it takes to be Americans....But you all do have to know all the secrets like nosey little busy bodies don't you. Then you can sit and judge right or wrong huh? After all, you all feel it is your god given rights rigfht to know and judge isn,t it?
Let me tell you all something, the US government does a lot for all of you whinny little ungrateful citizens that you will never -ever know about. But when you question and demand things you have no right for that are provided for your protection so you can pursue the all mighty right to "question" authority then that is where you are fools....
So go get a subscription to People magazine and stop thinking you all think you know what is best for our country!
If you're one of the Americans "protecting" me from your little military nest in Stuttgart, I don't want your protection. If you represent the thinking of the US government, then my sympathies are with the other side.
P.S. Germany is not "your" country. It is a host country. Perhaps you should be more respectful of your host.
Maybe your preaching of the law might save your sorry little butt. though I have a sneaking suspicion you have not seen a courtroom in years...Personally, I wouldn't loose any sleep over your loss.
And you call yourself a veteran - the military and our country is better off with the likes of you...
Dear readers, I can only assure you that this is not the position of the majority of Americans. It is the position of a minority who are easily brainwashed in a country that celebrates ignorance and glorifies power over all things. Unfortunately the American military establishment is equipped with an all-volunteer force made up by significant numbers of high school dropouts who are easily brainwashed into believing -- really believing -- that they are on a noble mission. They are not. And the most recent polls in America reveal that more than 60% of the population is opposed to this war in Afghanistan, which they believe cannot be won. That is very disturbing news to blockheads like Mr. Landmine here, because it turns his entire belief system on its head. If I'm fighting for a lost cause to support a corrupt regime, is it really worth it? Why am I there? So one can understand his anger, his frustration and his jingoistic rhetoric, however illiterately stated. What one cannot understand is how such a person could argue against the First Amendment which is the cornerstone of the American Bill of Rights in an attempt to suppress the truth.
I support the work of WikiLeaks. Turn me in to Homeland Security, Mr. Landmine. And by all means, don't step on one of your namesakes in your misguided defense of what you think you're defending.
Typical lawyer....
Thanks for the entertainmenet lol.....