February 8, 2012
Published: 14 Aug 10 10:58 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/money/20100814-29155.html
A third of German businesses cannot fill open jobs with suitable candidates, as most of those applying are not qualified enough and in many cases simply no-one is trying to get the work.
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Another game is to call for foreign workers. Of course it would be no problem e.g. for spanish or english workers to come to Germany and work here. But those european workers want to have good wages and german employers want to flatten their costs, so it would be really nice to get cheap but skilled workers from China or India. So, lets cry about immigration barriers! If only employees from EU are allowed to work in Germany this doesn't work, because they are well paid enough (or even better paid) in their own countries and they prefer to stay in their own culture. But when all skilled foreign workers are allowed to work in Germany for smaller wages this flattens the level of wages in Germany.
Capitalists logic makes me vomit!
But circumstances should force companies to train also the older one's. Some companies do so because they are really desperat. Thats the way it should work! Of course it takes years to get a diploma as an engineer or scientist but it takes only months to upgrade skills of unemployed graduated people. Companies spend much money for one-year traineeships for young graduated people. I think they shall spend this money also for older graduated or just intelligent people who want to learn and perform! This works also for craftspeople in their kind of jobs, sometimes intelligent people without diploma can also do the work of graduated people if you give them a chance. Running a company is not a licence to print money you also have to invest and take risks! But many german companies prefer to cry and complain...and let their employees do the work for the "missing" skilled workers. That's cheaper!
German companies will take the risk on older, less qualified workers if you show a willingness to work. Now let me tell you about the Germans on my Umschulung ... Of the 20 in my class, 1 is still on a career roll. 8 years on, most of the rest are still unemployed because the "conditions weren't right", because they were expected to travel, because they had to go to a big city, etc.
When I started in my first factory job, I was told by an old guy that if one wants to work in Germany, one can find work.
Been true for me!
I'm an IT professional, experienced in Java and PHP and a bunch of other stuff. I'm also totally fluent in German.
I was in Berlin about 2 years ago and I couldn't get a job to save my life.
First of all, the place was oversaturated with other software developers better qualified than me.
Second of all, they were making on average 800 euros a month before tax - about 60% to support an ailing health system and an aging non-workforce.
Third, I didn't want (and still don't want) to move to Bad Currywurst and be bored out of my mind.
Germany is not having a problem of qualified people they are having a problem of these people wanting to stay in Germany and the government and the companies don't seem to understand this at all. Case point(I got many)a close friend of mines works in a major German company as a lead project manager his Gross is about 75,000 his netto is €40,000(about $51,008) he meets a person in the same level position from the US 3 years younger who makes $130,000(€101,944.79)per year netto know tell me this where would you rather go.
Even more worst when you are not highly qualified there.
A better house in the US? they all have a better house and cars compared to the germans who are just mostly renting because even if you are just normal workers in a factory there, you can easily go to the bank to get mortgage for a big house with a swimming pool, where are this people now ?? during economic crisis?where are their houses now???? Germans will just laugh at them.
That's the secret of their success "high quality", where people from other countries displaying the MADE IN GERMANY as their status symbol.
But anyway Germany from the start after the war is always a " wonder "
I don't normally responding to the stupidity people write here but you forced me. As a general Contractor (Master Builder here) in the States I am held to a very high standard of craftmanship. I just had my home redone here in Germany by a "Master Builder" Trained for years in his trade. This was the worst example of German craftsmanship one could imagine. Not one thing this well trained guy touched is correct or even close to it. To be honest I have guys that have 1/4 of this builders training and do 100% better job. This HIGHLY TRAINED builder is now being sued for over 40,000 Euros. There was a time when made in Germany meant something, but not any more, From my VW being in the shop being repaired more often than being in my garage or being driven to workers who can't do the jobs they are trained to do, Germany is falling behind.
I have had a housing inspector, an Attorney, builder,mechanic, and others that I have hired and proved you so very very wrong here. Get out of your little hole and check out the rest of the world before you speak. People don't want to work here because the German Goverment pays them the same if not more to stay home and with no end in site to the free money, oh wait it isn't free my taxes pay for it. I do love this country and grew up here, but have had a chance to compare it to many other countries, and so my friend I am telling you, Take off your rose coloured glasses and wake up! You have no idea what you are talking about!!!!!!!!!
It's really nice to follow your discussion.
I am an Engineer from Poland - and from electronics/medical market.
I can see your problems that you have not enough engineers etc.
But you have good relations between prices of food related to you monthly earn.
-correction- From my point of view.
What I mean - please help me to understand - how it is that in my local shops and discounts i have this same prices for food like you have in Germany (and other countries, where i have had opportunity to be) and as an production engineer i earn 650EUR/month!
This is amazing. I have lucky that i have diploma and good job i but lot of people works for 375 / month after 10 years of work... And they have to spend this same money like you have to in EU.
What is amazing also is that the lot of new companies in Poland were opened (with abroad assets) and in the same time lot of polish companies were closed. I cannot believe that "my" goverment let to close all shipyards and to let go abroad all native human qualified resources to german's and scandinavian's ship-markets - but this is another long story.
What can i feel now - it will not sounds good - but after 50-years of russian's occupation - i feel like a negro-slayer ;) i am qualyfied engineer and i am earning just arround 650 EUR per month and i have exactly the same prices in shops than you have. Thats why so many companies decide to move production to Poland. we are well qualified and very cheep. And there is allways lot of hands to work.
But generally I am able to predict that after next 50 years the nation would be reach and old and then we probable have to look for some new cheap and qualified - assian / affrica resources. But first i need to find out good government because this one is still (sic!) corrupted and indicted from communist's elites.
Within westernized countries, there is a perception by the citizens that foreign workers are coming in and taking jobs. Business say they can't get enough workers. Workers don't want to work for low wages. Low paying jobs are available and are filled by workers that are desperate or to foreigners that think it is a well paying job compared to their homeland.
Politicians want to give the appearance of protecting jobs for citizens, but they also know that there are jobs that people don't want to do because of the nature of the job and low pay and also that often highly skilled and specialized workers are needed because there is always some unmet demand. Germany has a declining birthrate......you need more people.
The US has plenty of people and there isn't any complaint of bringing in highly skilled, educated, successful people. They don't want the uneducated and unskilled people.......only to pick the crops and clean the office buildings. The US problem is that too many people go to college and get degrees. The degrees are in things that often there is no need for. They need more trade schools that give people skills needed in middle income non-professional jobs. There are so many college educated people some day you will need a masters to become a garbage truck driver.
In the US there seems to be less loyalty between employers and workers. Germany is becoming more like the US. This is because of global competition.
Elect rational leaders, improve the education system, promote work over welfare and then everything will be fine.
The answer to all of Germany's problems is actually quite simple. Just base everything on Efficient-Conservatism.
They can't possibly go wrong with this concept. It is the most brilliant system ever.
Second thing, nationalism in education bring professors to put their nose high (they become überheblich) and they demand too much from students, therefore Germany has problem with lack of high educated people. To pass exams is Swiss is so easy that they pass crowd of exams after 5th semester, they don\t pass exams every year than crowd of it in several days after 5th and after 9th semester. So, only 2 times they have exams in 9 semesters and rarely someone don't succeed. What can I say, German's should educate in Basel, or other Swiss cities, then come back to work in Germany (theoretically, of course, people who live near Swiss, they work in Swiss and live in Germany). So, change your professors and education system, don't be so proud that you demand so much from students and result is: they fail at their exams. Real education is at job, school is just making people ready for real jobs, ask people who finished Faculty of Law, why they must make practicum 2 years after finished faculty? Because school is one thing and real job other thing.