February 10, 2012
Published: 20 Jul 10 18:08 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20100720-28631.html
Germany on Tuesday marked the 66th anniversary of a failed attempt by army officers to assassinate Adolf Hitler in his "Wolf's Lair" military headquarters in a daring bid to end World War II.
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And that is fine, since they never sought glory for themselves. What they did seek is to remind us, and what we will always remember, that even in humanity's darkest hours, with the entire world gone mad, someone, somewhere, will remember the right thing to do, and have the courage to do it.
Sometimes, often purely by coincidence, that man or woman wears a uniform - and does their nation the greatest of pride, whether they ultimately succeed or not.
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I think you have your history somewhat confused. The Nazi regime was, by and large, heavily support by conservatives through-out Germany. It was, as a rule, the liberals and communists that were shot by the Nazis. Stauffenberg had a conservative upbringing, but was most definitely a liberal his entire adult life.
In other words, please keep your idiotic, polarizing debates out of this. This insanity of left/right-bashing, has absolutely nothing to do with real courage or heroism.
Extremely well expressed. Both times.
Can we just stick to the real topic and that is that at least an Officer from Bamberg had the bravery and moral conscious to attempt to kill Hitler. I do dispute the articles premise that the conspirators were trying to stop the war, I believe they just wanted the Austiran out of the way so they prosecute the war and defeat the allies.
Whether the allies would have been amiable to a peace with a reconstituted German government is anyone's guess. If they hadn't, the war would probably have lasted a bit longer since that raving lunatic wouldn't have had the privilege of ordering practical suicide missions reinforced by phantom divisions. However, I think in this alternate history, if the allies had then offered some small number of concessions behind an *officially* unconditional surrender, the Generals would have probably surrendered. They knew that the war was lost as soon as the tide turned in the Soviet Union. The western front was really just a side-show in comparison, with the war in Russia destroying well over 70% of the German armed forces.
@grenadier - I disagree that himmler would have taken over. Unlike bush in iraq, von stauffenburg had already got the post-win situation planned very well with many civilian leaders as well as abwehr commanders poised ready for the take-over. There are even rumours of a deal with the allies but I haven't seen any proof of that.
All this talk about possible scenarios and political alternatives is conjecture. Have fun with it, but don't take it very seriously.
History proves that Nazi leadership weren't prepared to surrender at all. Although it fell apart proximal to Hitler's death, it was also proximal to the Russians overrunning Berlin, too. Berlin was the bigger deal.
I think you misread my paragraph above. The condition for Himmler's taking control would have been in Staufenberg's absence, as per the earlier mention of a suicide attack, which all boil down to Staufenberg's connections within the reserve command.
And no, there was no deal with the allies.
You are absolutely right: Stauffenberg was very important and yet I feel that others, like Rommel, would probably have had even more of an influence but, as you said, the whole thing was extremely risky and dangerous. My daughter saw a filmstrip here at school, showing my uncle, with his name directly under his picture, being insulted by the dreaded judge and being sentenced to death. I was a member of the 5th Panzer division in Neuruppin when we received the news of the failed attempt. Ours was an old Prussian regiment and we were very disappointed but also quite afraid because the German nobility was now definitely on the blacklist and we feared that, should the war be won, we would all end up in concentration camps.
Thank you for that amazing perspective. In Germany, you never hear much from the German soldier's perspective on these things. As a historian, I would be fascinated to hear your story!
Incidentally I've only been back in Canada after a glorious month traveling throughout Germany, met so many wonderful people, strangers who stopped to help seeing the obvious look on my face. Of course I remembered the history, it was taught to us from an early age. With my uncles and aunt who served with the Canadian army during the war, I remember the ongoing suffering they had brought back with them, the stress, the nightmares, the loss of so much and yet and no point we were ever taught to hate. I've never forgotten being told by one of those uncles at a very young age, probably about 1968 that you can't hate a country for the actions of a handful.
I hate to burst your bubble, but I think you need to read a little bit more about Panzer Meyer (sp?) and what his 12th SS boy soldiers did to the CDN 3ID.
I am not sure how to respond to this? Deutschland and its people have done a lot to wipe the stain of what it and their grandparents did, however to say that it was only a handful? Please quit being so naive!
if you really believe that the germans you meet today are in anyway related to "Panzer Meyer(sp?)" or that the british you meet hate sepoys or that the americans you meet are just ready for another mei lei then *you* are the naive one
As for Hitler i'm not sure Germany was better of without him, Stalin was far worse. After years of war nothing was really concluded in the end. Many Eastern European countries just ended up under Stalins rule, Germany lost large parts of its territory and the US,Britain and France just left them to it. Don't forget that between 1945 and 1948 12 to 15 MILLION Germans were starved, beaten, marched or froze to death, including children. Shame on them and what they did to innocent German people, the people they said they went to rescue from tyranny.