February 8, 2012
Published: 9 Apr 10 16:40 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20100409-26451.html
Chancellor Angela Merkel on Friday paid her respects to three Bundeswehr soldiers who fell in battle against the Taliban last week, marking the first time a post-war German leader has attended such a memorial service.
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Maybe, my father asked the same questions, 60 years ago, sitting on top of the king david hotel in jerusalem - without a blue helmet, because they hadn't been invented yet.
The future is taking its time.
The fallen were all paratroopers of Fallschirmjägerbataillon 373.
All three were professional soldiers who fell in battle at the hands of the enemy on the second of April, 2010. Their names were:
Hauptfeldwebel (OR7/OR8) Niels Bruhns
Hauptgefreiter (OR3) Martin Augustiniak
Stabsgefreiter (OR4) Robert Hartert
A personal note to my fallen comdrades:
You followed the flag, and in doing so, honored us all with your sacrifice. Thank you for the defense of those that could not defend themselves.
I saw a bumper sticker that said "My son fought in Afghanistan so your son can party in college"
Pretty much says it all.
Thankyou guys again, and God bless your families now.
They will need it.
The name is HptGefr Augustyniak; my apologies to the family.
The three fallen were members of a small German motorized patrol. They were ambushed outside of Kunduz by an estimated ~100 enemy combatants. Of the three, one fell to remotely-detonated mine-turned-IED. One fell to a bullet wounded to the head. The third fell from multiple bullet wounds to the body. 8 other men were wounded.
It should be noted, with great emphasis, that the reason for the high casualty count was due to the fact that these honorable men refused to bring heavy ordinance to bear on the enemy, because the enemy positions were composed of civilian homes whom the paratroopers believed to also be occupied by non-combatants.
On another note, another patrol vehicle was attacked today with an IED in the same area. No casualties are reported.
You seem to have alot of details about this. The Bundeswehr rules of engagement are pretty restrictive and it seems stricter than the general NATO engagement rules. Hope in conferring with Gen McCrystal and the NATO command this can be cleared. Don't expect the Americans to be so nice once they arrive in force in the Kunduz area. The American military and public wouldn't stand for it. It would have been the same for the Germans many many years ago but the perhaps the citizen-soldier stuff is good for warriors. And hope I don't sound callous. They should be able to use the Americans for cover as they ramp up their responses to the cowards.
Of course this is a war. The far left doesn't define it. It is what it is -- a sh*tty, useless war that is needlessly wasting lives and treasure. It's time for it to end.
Those who went there knew that there is a huge risk that they will die. And if they had an IQ over 100, they knew that Germany does not "get defended at the Hindukush". If they had an IQ under 100, then I'm sorry for them, for getting their stupidity exploited by those in power.
Things like this will happen as long as the Bundeswehr is in Afghanistan. The war can not be won. And for taking my taxpayer money to play war in Afghanistan I hope that those who are responsible for sending our troops there, will suffer from cancer and die a slow and painful death.
The Bundeswehr is a DEFENSE ARMY and WE DID NOT GET ATTACKED. I'm not willing to pay money for this. Once we get attacked by another country my complete solidarity and support will be with the soldiers. Untill then I couldn't care less if they die.
At least it's soldiers who died. Who mourns about the innocent civillians who got killed by the Bundeswehr??? No word about them...
The American military also fights with one hand tied behind it's back too. Soldiers are discouraged and often prevented from using heavy force on the enemy, even though this would help the fight. Some soldiers are even charged in a military court for using doing what they should be as a soldier.
Read about Michael Behenna and his capture of Ali Mansur, a known member of an al-Qaida cell. After capture, Mansur was uncooperative and became physical with Behenna, lunging at him and trying to take his gun. In self defense, Behenna shot Mansur. The military deemed this as excessive force, even though witnesses back up Behenna's actions. Behenna is now sentanced to 22 years in prison all for doing his job as a soldier.
Ultimately, the American army is also fighting with a handicap too. The war cannot be won if things keep going to this way.
Which people are defending their country?
Was Hitler's invasion of Poland a defensive act?
Perhaps Germans should really confine their forces to defence of their country.
@psychoid
While I agree with you that the Army has no business in this moonscape of a land, insulting the intelligence of those who are fighting there and believe they are doing a service is offensive and untrue. If you know anythingabout the Fallschirm Jaeger it is that they are not stuipid.
Rot scheint die Sonne!
Has the German Armed forces set up a fund to assist the families/children and if so what is their adress?
The cost of Freedom is eternal vigilance.
If we can't supress garbage like the Talliban, our days of Freedom are numbered.
I am not aware of one. I will look, but I doubt it is necessary. Between military death benefits and the social welfare network, the families are probably more than taken care of.
@dbert4- Socialism is when you give to everyone equally in need. What these families have given to the cause of Freedom can never be repaid, but only honored with tribute.
I didn't mean to sound offensive; I'm not. I just mean that that is really not an issue in Germany that I have ever heard. It's taken care of.
Well, the presence of the Chancellor certainly changes the scope a bit. More uniforms, more people, more venue. However, all soldiers, sailors, and airmen get a very dignified funeral and viewing with full honor guard. Whether the location is disclosed, and whether it is open to the public, is entirely up to the family.
However, I think you're asking whether we have any crazy people like the Westboro Baptist Church in Germany, that go and protest at funerals. No, that doesn't happen, really. It's just not done. You don't go to a funeral, anyone's funeral, and start protesting a political issue.
I agree with you that no civilized person would attend a funeral, particularly a fallen soldier's funeral, to protest.
The Westboro mob is not civilized. As you may have read, that group of crazies just prevailed in an appeal to a federal appeals court which overturned a lower court ruling in favor of the father of the dead soldier who was trashed by these homophobic "christians" at his funeral. Not only that, the dead soldier's father has been stuck with the court costs for the "church," somewhere in the neighborhood of $17,000.
Germany has its share of things to complain about, but I can't imagine something like that happening here.