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February 10, 2012
Two people put each other in hospital over shopping cart
Published: 13 Dec 09 15:16 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20091213-23915.html
A row between a 74-year-old man and a 35-year-old woman over a supermarket cart in Aachen escalated into a violent altercation in which two people required emergency treatment.
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The tensions were carried over into the supermarket until the situation boiled over at the cheese department. Here, the mother of the young man who hit the man tried to intervene, and the 74-year-old pushed her onto the glass counter.
This ended the fight, but both the 53-year-old mother and the 74-year-old were taken to hospital in an ambulance. An investigation has been opened to clarify how the fight started.
DDP/The Local (news@thelocal.de)
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Having been told never to hit a woman and to respect age, this might be interesting. Which one was the ossie?
LOL.. LOL... LOL.. put them all in a cage, circus in hamburg. perhaps, it will help. especially, for the younger brother... hahaha
In all fairness, who hits an old man of 74 in the first place and what type of 34 year old woman gets into an argument with a 74 year old man over a trolley. Not the sort of woman you would introduce to your family as your girlfriend. LOL
What I've noticed is that once a German reaches full fury.....he won't hesitate to blast anyone....even relatives. And it can go physical in a matter of seconds.
All three people behind me immediately tried to adjust their trolleys so that I could easily go to the newly opened register. I thanked them told them to please go ahead as I could wait. The line (which by this point had grown by a few) orderly split into two groups with everyone politely allowing the people in front of them to select whether to switch to the new lane or stay put.
No one was unfriendly, no one ran for the new register or tried to beat the other shoppers down with their trolley to be first. And I thought, wow...this is completely normal here. In fact, a different scenario would appear to be completely out of the question. Yet in Germany, this would have NEVER happened.
Some on this forum may leave comments (as in the restaurant service story) about how much they hate false American courtesy and politeness, but I'd say they're wrong. There's nothing false about it.
There are differing levels of mutual respect and courtesy in the world and in Germany it seems to be very lacking. With no respect for each other, things like this are bound to happen, and probably occur much more than is reported.
oh, then I am certainly relieved that nothing like this ever happens in the US. I just wonder what to think about news like this, though:
"Panic At Gunfire In Toy Store"
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/nov/29/local/me-toystoreshooting29
Violence and bad behavior happens everywhere and of course I did not say it never happens in the US.
But, the aggressive rude behavior that precipitates such actions is not the norm in the US, especially when it comes to providing each other with common courtesy in stores.
Did no-one concerned have the dignity to just back off and walk away?
Evidently not given the outcome.
Walking away is really not that difficult.
It is actually a wiser person who does back away,contary to popular belief.
I love Germany than my country UK.I experienced more worst than this in my own land.
Can you guys please look beyond your own borders? The situation you described would also have happened in the UK and very probably many other countries around the world too.
@berlinski
I can see half of your argument, but I'll bet that the guy was cantankerous and argumentative too. Basically 6 of one and half a dozen of the other - just like in a kindergarten only the children are bigger which is why it got to hospital.
@adnaw
Sadly not. You're talking about the only country I know of (admittedly there may be more) that needs Haftplflichtversicherung - insurance in case somebody sues you. For many people, attack is their only defence to try to scare people away, regardless of whether or not it is warranted.
You really thing that people putting each other in hospital *over a shopping trolley* happens everywhere? It certainly wouldn't happen in any part of the UK that I've been in. People would be too embarrassed to act like kindrgarten children. Yes, there might even be a heated discussion, but it wouldn't come to blows. I also cannot imagine it happening all over the world, so please do not insult the rest of the world.
But over a *shopping trolley*??? Only in a kindergarten.
"Why did you hit, her?"
"Because she took my favourite choo-choo train."
"But you weren't playing with it !!"
"Doesn't matter - it's mine !!!"
"The toys are for all of the children in the kindergarten to play with."
"IT'S MINE !!!! WAHHHH!!! MUMMY !!!!"
Sadly, situations like this are bound to occur when you get 2+ selfish idiots in one space.
Of course, this is a sickening story. But thanks for publishing it, Local, I'll be thrilled to mention it during the next smirky sermon on bad American consumer behavior that I'm doubtless soon to hear.
It depends on the mood as well. If one is utterly pissed because of whatever other reason and some "dude" / "gal" rubs you the wrong way you might be surprised about your own reactions.
You should see what's happening in normal traffic these days. Just recently a man from Kuwait attacked another person with an axe in Germany in a traffic situation. Germany's going to the sewers.