February 9, 2010
Published: 11 Nov 09 17:47 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20091111-23185.html
A Russian-born German man was sentenced to life behind bars on Wednesday for the brutal murder of a pregnant headscarved Egyptian woman, a crime that sparked outrage in the Muslim world.
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Unbelievable... The guy is such a calculated monster, he is actually trying, in such a stupid way, to get the smaller sentence. He feels no guilt here.... let him rotten for life.
I hold immense respect for the German culture, this wonderful country, the language, the heritage and its people but it hurts me and scares me that no matter how much i try to integrate myself here, if some day something like this happens with me...i will be 'confused' as the attacker/offender.
Monsters like Wiens are in every society, if its not against foreigners then it would be against other religions or whatever. And yes he should get life in jail because death is too small a punishment for him.
As he was quoted saying. Thus being his motivating factor, had he not considered too that he was a foreigner since he was Russian born?
It's a hate crime, racist crime, premeditated crime. For this he needs to be removed from society for good. There will always be religious people. There will always be foreigners. There will always be people of different societies, race, religion, and creed. He and others like him will always have to face these obstacles if in fact they are fueled by the hatred. Removing him and the likes of him from society helps in such small ways to the large picture, but it has to begin somewhere.
I am a foreigner. I have contrary religious beliefs, and I am not fully integrated into Germany. Am I next in line for people like this to kill?
Does the country struggle to deal with immigration issues? Certainly. Virtually every country does, and, at least to me, Germany seems no different on that score. Since 2001, the issues have changed, and everyone is trying to find answers to questions that simply weren't as important before that time.
This man obviously had problems, and took unacceptable ways to deal with them. That might sound a bit flippant, and I don't mean it to in any way. The request that started his attacks was both reasonable and polite. What he did (both then and later) was wrong, and I believe justice has been served. I wish it had never happened, as does everyone else, but...it. did.
Certainly. And that is exactly what is scary for me. I would guess that the Veil Martyr and her husband were also integrated. But then this happens. They had the image that police and courts stand for protection but then this court became the murder scene and the police became the 2nd attackers. This surprise is more shocking. If this happens in, lets say, Afghanistan..you would expect that due to corruption and lawlessness.
All said, i would agree with 'wood artist'. Furthermore i add that there was no time when my good German friends made me. even slightly, feel that i was not a part of them or was an 'outsider' or something.
you are right, the other side of the society exists, but where not? tell me one example, if you can, i would be happy if there were one! in nearly every country you will find foreigners who are attacked by local people. but nowhere such a fuzz was made about it. surely, the crime ought to be punished but everywhere! what`s about the murderer of the two young German girls in Yemen? surely, they have done something wrong but did Germany see this as an attack of Germany at all or as an attack of christianity? it could have been seen at that with the help pf propaganda.
and please, do`nt reduce Germany to just one ( addmitingly very dark and awful) short period of time. we have learnt from our past and most of us do not want to have those people back. back to your examples, there is something wrong. as a white south african you would have been treated very well if Germany had not learnt from past! you are playing with sterotypes but in a wrong way!
i think the crime is been rewarded with the correct punishment. but i believe that the sentence is not been given because of the cruelty but because the tension from other countries was too strong and the politicians are threatened and that`s also a wrong way.
To knock the cops shooting as racist is, I think, a tad of an over reaction given we have not full details on how he saw the situation.
Ask yourself how a Cop would react in a similar situation in a different country with a different ethnicity. I think the same error in the latter case would have the same basis as this shooting. View that through your ethnicity and see how you would feel? I go along with Jibsy