Army first in line to get cutting-edge swine flu shot

With that being said, swine flu, aids, and a host other smaller viruses. Immuneology is the only answer, as well social and animal, aircraft and cloud control.

Guinea Pigs.

If I were living in Germany, I would be up in arms that the government cared more about protecting its soldiers from these dangerous and toxic additives than the rest of its citizens. Thimerosal is not safe for any living thing. It has never been tested for safety and what's worse - it is put into vaccines to ease the risk of contamination but it has been shown for many decades that it isn't even good at doing that!

Squalene, the adjuvant in some of the new AH1N1 vaccines (attached to aluminium - another potent neurotoxin) is believed by many to be one of the major contributing factors to Gulf War Syndrome.

No, these vaccines are NOT safe and they have NOT been tested.

Here in Australia, we have already seen spontaneous abortions and severe anaphylactic shock being reported after the vaccine. Guillain-Barre syndrome (GBS) can take a little longer though there has been one report of paralysis following the new vaccine - it's too early to know yet whether this is GBS or another reaction.

Oh, and one other thing: before using a Baxter Labs vaccine, the government should be urged to test it for contamination with other unrelated viruses. This company has an unfortunate history of issuing contaminated vaccines - the last time was as recently as February 2009.

All this risk is being taken to try and prevent a flu that is milder than normal seasonal flu. For this, we will most likely see a repeat of the US tragedy of 1976 where thousands more people died and were permanently injured by the shot than by the illness.

Wow, poor Germans. Our vaccine in the States contains no adjuvants.

As for thimerosal, you can request thimerosal-free vaccine. Or you can just accept that your average tuna sandwich has more mercury than the thimerosal contained in one dose of vaccine and deal.

@shotinfo, you're going to need to provide a link to the claim about spontaneous abortions. Health officials here are worried that pregnant women will be scared by people like you into not getting the vaccine. Here in the States, many pregnant women have died from H1N1.

Is it ok if I get up in arms after I've had my dinner and caught up on episodes of The Daily Show? I mean, I'm all on for a bit of righteous up in armsing, but it's been a long day and I'm kinda hungry.

Your comparison of the mercury in a flu vaccine to mercury in a can of tuna shows remarkable ignorance and is dangerously misleading. The form of mercury in vaccines is ethyl-mercury. It is injected into infants, crossing the blood-brain barrier. There is no safety guideline for ethyl-mercury. Incredibly, the only guidelines that exist pertain to methyl-mercury, less toxic than ethyl-mercury, and not used in vaccines. Further, these guidelines, as set by FDA and EPA: (a) differ markedly from one agency to the other; (b) do not pertain to exposure by injection; and (c) are based solely on ingestion of fish. A flu vaccine can contain up to 25 micrograms of mercury. According to EPA's guidelines (.1mcg/kg of body weight per day), you would need to weigh 551 pounds to ingest 25 micrograms of mercury at "a level not likely to cause harm". (Neither FDA nor EPA say at "a level that is safe".) (12) (13) There is currently not enough mercury free flu vaccine for everyone in the US; therefore, many will get up to 25 micrograms of mercury via their flu shot.

From: http://www.autismtruth.org/Archived/people_092004.html

The spontaneous abortion was reported on our email list by someone who works with this mother. She was 4 months pregnant, got the vaccine in the afternoon, felt unwell that night and had lost the baby by morning. Do you really think the drug company will admit to any connection?

The FACT is that these shots have never been tested for their safety or efficacy in pregnancy. It states that very clearly on the package insert so your claims are totally baseless. Women are told not to have a glass of wine or take an aspirin during pregnancy but it's perfectly safe to inject themselves with viruses, bacteria, mercury, squalene and other toxins? I don't think so!

@shotinfo, "Here in the States, many pregnant women have died from H1N1. "

Exactly, as of Oct. 13, 2009, 28 pregnant women have died from H1N1. That's not many, but it is too many for a vaccine that's supposed to save lives. I believe the operative word among the H1N1 producers is "collateral damage." Are we supposed to become used to mandated vaccines that will continue to do more harm than good?

From this article, it's obvious that one of the dangerous ingredients, thimerisol, is not needed. I just heard an interview on ABC news (10-08-09) Dr. Denese Jamison of the CDC, who made it perfectly clear that the mercury is there to make the vaccine cheaper to purchase--shelf life and preservative/multiple use viles. FOLLOW THE MONEY, HONEY!

I know it is a little early in the day but I'm confused.

I thought H1N1 was the virus, so the question is have 28 pregnant women died from the virus or from the vaccine?

And, for what it's worth. I also thought that having the vaccine was voluntary. To me that means that if, after a conversation with your doctor, you are unhappy with the risks in your own personal situation you can choose not to have the vaccine.

Or have we in the western world lost the ability to make informed choices?

The vaccine is not yet widely available in the US. The pregnant women cited have died from the illness resulting from contracting the H1N1 flu, not from the vaccine.

I'm not going to chase down the source about the mercury, but I've read it multiple places. If you don't want thimerosal in your vaccine, request one without it.

EDIT: here is a link to a web page for pregnant women, addressing H1N1 vaccine concerns including the one about thimerosal/mercury/tuna sandwiches.

As for the pregnant woman who unfortunately miscarried after receiving the vaccine, I also read an article about those kinds of concerns. It is a problem with a widely distributed vaccine that a certain number of people are going to get ill with something or miscarry or whatever soon after receiving a vaccine, whatever it is. Most of these people would have had this happen without the vaccine. But other people are going to pass around stories about how the vaccine "caused" this outcome.

EDIT: here is a link to a story about tracking the flu's side effects and safety, including comments about coincidental health events that people will claim are related to the vaccine, but are not.

If your claim is legitimate, shotinfo, you will easily be able to find a link to a reputable news source about it. Sorry, but "I got an e-mail that somebody had a miscarriage after the flu shot, what else could be to blame?" doesn't cut it.

Pregnant women should get the H1N1 vaccine because during the course of their pregnancy, they are immunocompromised and less able than other people in their age range to fight the flu. In advanced pregnancy, their lung capacity is also decreased, due to the size of the fetus. The vaccine is considered safe for the fetus. H1N1 flu (the illness) is not safe for the fetus or its mother. Pregnant women are normally advised NOT to get the seasonal flu vaccine, but the seasonal flu is generally not especially dangerous to pregnant women. The H1N1 flu can be fatal.

A number of sources and researchers, among others Dr. Len Horowitz, Dr. Ott, Dr. Deagle, Dr.G. Lanctot and Dr. Carley claim that the so-called H1N1 2009 swine flu vaccine is designed to trigger a vaccine-induced pandemic meant to drastically reduce the world population. Far fetched?

Think about it: according to the CDC, the seasonal flu kills some 36 000 people each year in America alone, yet the WHO, which appears to be a front for pharmaceutical companies and depopulation interests, declared a highest level (stage 6) pandemic on the basis of a few hundred deaths world-wide, from a new type of flu which is reportedly less deadly than the seasonal flu!

By an amazing coincidence, the pandemic was declared shortly before the useless and dangerous drug Tamiflu governments all over the world involved in this swindle had purchased at great tax-payer expense for their citizens, was due to expire!

While the mainstream media was doing a brilliant snow job by issuing streams of WHO-inspired propaganda about this so-called "swine flu" "pandemic", governments now proceeded as if on cue to squander billions more of tax-payer money on orders of virtually untested, useless and dangerous mercury and squalene-containing vaccines for all their citizens, regardless of whether these vaccines were safe or even needed.

In the USA, Massachussets introduced legislation to make the vaccine mandatory under threat of jail and a $1000 fine for each day of avoiding the vaccine. US health professionals were also told that taking the shot is mandatory for them, although this is now being contested in court.

In Europe, Austrian journalist Jane Burgermeister has filed criminal charges in Austria, Switzerland and also the USA, against the WHO, the CDC, vaccine manufacturers and some government figures for conspiring against the public good by implementing a genocidal agenda involving the swine flu vaccination programme.

Recommended information:

www.the flu case.com

www.flu scam.com

(close the gaps between the words)

'Vaccination Information Network'

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Vaccination-Information-Network-VINE/69667273997?ref=ts#/pages/Vaccination-Information-Network-VINE/69667273997

Most people make the mistake of believing that vaccination has something to do with disease prevention. It doesn't. There is no real evidence to show that vaccines have ever prevented any diseases or protected anyone's life.

Vaccination goes back over 200 years. It started with Edward Jenner's barbaric cowpox vaccine, which he hoped would protect people against smallpox. It didn't. To save face, the medical authorities proclaimed vaccination a triumph of medical science and that the smallpox vaccine had eradicated the disease, when it had in fact declined of its own accord.

Over the past two centuries, vaccination developed into the multi-billion dollar global industry it is today, which is basically an organised criminal enterprise peddling its toxic injections under the guise of disease prevention.

Today, vaccination serves three purposes:

1. Vaccination is a money making-racket

2. Vaccination is used to promote illnesses and disorders,

the treatment of which is a huge source of income for the

medical-pharmaceuticl establishment (80% of asthma cases are e.g. vaccine-related)

3. Vaccination is used for population control and

reduction purposes.

truthcrusader, your posts are such a load of bollocks I don't know where to begin. Why is it that polio has been mostly eradicated, if not for the vaccine? Why is it that only the unvaccinated are getting polio now?

I am now convinced that The Local is attracting people to TT who have an agenda and would not otherwise find us to post their nonsense. Not good, Editor Bob.

By the way, I think I have H1N1 as I type. I've been developing a cold for the past couple of days, and now have a fever as of last night. It's not that bad, but I hope my husband and daughter don't get it. (I was not planning to get the H1N1 vaccine, since I'm not in the high-priority age range, but was going to get it for my young daughter, if she can manage to get the vaccine before getting the flu.)

Hi cinzia,

You seem very informed. If the vaccine is safe for fetuses. Why is not safe for children up to 12 months?

And are you saying that you get the same reaction either by eating mercury (tuna sandwich) or getting it straight into your blood through a needle?

Thank you so much!