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Ahmadinejad slams Germany for woman's courtroom slaying

Published: 13 Jul 09 08:00 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20090713-20551.html

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has blamed Germany for the murder of a pregnant Egyptian woman in a Dresden courtroom, state media reported late Sunday.

"The judge, the jury and the German government are responsible in this case," Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying on the website of a state broadcaster.

The official IRNA news agency also quoted him as blaming US President Barack Obama and other international leaders for "not reacting" to the murder of Marwa al-Sherbini.

"We have not seen any reaction from (Barack) Obama, other European leaders or the secretary general of the UN. We ask them to condemn Germany," Ahmadinejad said. "When there is a small incident in a country which is opposing them, they adopt resolutions against it, but they do not respect the minimum rights of people in their own countries."

Sherbini was stabbed at least 18 times in the courtroom in front of her husband and three-year-old son on July 1 by a Russian-born German man who has since been charged with her murder.

On Saturday, around 150 Iranian Islamist students pelted eggs at the German embassy in Tehran and chanted "Death to Germany! Death to Europe!".

On Friday, Iran had summoned Herbert Honsowitz, Berlin's ambassador to Tehran, and protested against the murder and urged Berlin to step up efforts to protect the rights of the minorities there.

Muslim groups have dubbed Sherbini's death as the "veil murder" and her killing drew thousands of mourners at her funeral Monday in Alexandria, Egypt.

Sherbini's husband, geneticist Elwi Ali Okaz, is in a critical condition in a hospital after he too was stabbed by the assailant and also shot in the leg by confused police who took him for the attacker.

The unemployed 28-year-old attacker, identified only as Alex W., was in court appealing against an earlier conviction and fine for calling Sherbini a "terrorist" for wearing the Islamic headscarf during a dispute.

AFP (news@thelocal.de)

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#1
10:24 July 13, 2009 by eddymanly
Usually i dont support Ahmedinejad, but this time i agree with him.

Head scarfs are banned in school, azan is not allowed. Where is freedom in germany? Immigrants and foreigners are just treated as second class people and cheap labours in germany.

What will germans say?

1. if you dont like here, go back to your own country.blah blah blah

2. you want germans treat you like a king, blah blah blah

3.dont bring your culture to germany, blah blah blah
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#2
11:38 July 13, 2009 by wood artist
I can't really speak to the issues that immigrants face in Germany from personal experience, but I do find Ahmedinejad's comments interesting. On one hand he is correct, in that the court situation allowed something to happen that shouldn't have. On the other hand, the courts of his own country routinely dispense results that would never qualify as justice anywhere else. The recent crackdown against peaceful demonstrators is another example. He has little room to talk about treating people fairly and not discriminating against those who are "different."

We can all work towards better things for everyone, and leadership such as denying the holocaust and Israel's right to exist are hardly positive examples of that type of leadership.
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#3
12:44 July 13, 2009 by airborne1092
People are murdered everywhere, all the time and heads of State don't have enough hours in the day to condenm every one of them.

Ahmedinejad is simply using her murder as his new soapbox; her family should be outraged, Muslims worldwide should be ashamed that they allow him to speak for them and yes, the German courts should be censured for allowing this murder to be commited.
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#4
13:33 July 13, 2009 by michael4096
The question is: has the reaction in Germany or from any "European leaders" been any different than if the murder was of, say, a white christian? As tragic as the event was, I don't see that there would be any difference.

The system failed those it was meant to serve. It happens every day in every country but less in some countries than others and Germany has a good record.

Of course, this comes at a time where it conveniently takes the minds of Iranians off their own systemic failure to hold believably fair election. Ah, what an opportunity!
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#5
14:01 July 13, 2009 by ibth123
He is trying to point away from his own country where they killed the woman on the street and arrested people in the hospital for demonstrationg. Off course it is so much easier to point at somebody else than to clean house at home. In Dresden she didn't get herself killed because she was a muslim but because the guy is crazy and can't take that a woman tells him what to do. But the press as always has to make a big deal out of an ant.
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#6
16:06 July 13, 2009 by sparkling
In Dresden she did get herself killed because she was a Muslim AND he was a crazy man, let's not forget that the husband was shot by the police.

My biggest concern is, the politicians and media were quite hush hush about this case until they realized the case was too visible and their silence was not well received. The West is losing it's right to criticize Ahmadinejad. What he is basically saying is "see, you kill our Muslims, don't treat them as human beings, you don't have the right to criticize me when I don't treat the Christians well any more". This is no good...
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#7
16:07 July 13, 2009 by sparkling
has the reaction in Germany or from any "European leaders" been any different than if the murder was of, say, a white christian?
I guess you don't know the Munich case.
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#8
16:13 July 13, 2009 by Chrisimo
Do you remember the case where a turkish husband killed his german wife because she wanted to divorce him?
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#9
16:15 July 13, 2009 by sparkling
of course
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#10
16:17 July 13, 2009 by Chrisimo
Do you remember his name?
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#11
16:17 July 13, 2009 by katekatekoala
Ok, I'm sorry. Does anyone not see the overreaction here?

Yes, it was tragic that these women were killed like that. Yes, it was obviously because they were Muslim. And that is absolutely despicable.

But for the Iranian president to ask all the Western countries to focus on it, comment on it, and condemn not only the issue, but a WHOLE COUNTRY for this is ridiculous. It is not Germany's fault - it is these crazy nutters faults.
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#12
16:20 July 13, 2009 by hermannyorks
Godwin's Law and I claim my five euros
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#13
16:20 July 13, 2009 by Keydeck
But for the Iranian president to ask all the Western countries to focus on it, comment on it, and condemn not only the issue, but a WHOLE COUNTRY for …
Yeah, but I've Gotta Dinner Jacket is batshit mental. So really, anything he says or does doesn't really come as a surprise. He could moonwalk into an interview grabbing his balls and it'd hardly raise an eyebrow.
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#14
16:24 July 13, 2009 by sparkling
I agree fully, that's why I don't like the current situation. It's the international politics game, and he gets the upper hand for a while (or let's say, he and his supporters perceive it so).
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#15
16:28 July 13, 2009 by katekatekoala
But, fortunately for the sane people in the world, no one else perceives it that way. So we're just fine. He's just trying to make a bunch of noise and guilt the Western nations into apologizing or groveling or some , which can actually be quite easy to do. But not in this case, because its nothing we can do anything about.
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#16
16:35 July 13, 2009 by cb6dba
@peasandcarrots - not sure that a person who is the president of a country where women get tried for Adultery after being raped can accuse anyone of being a hypocrite.

However the guy who killed her wasn't German - I think it say more that An immigrant was prosecuted for verbal racial abuse against another immigrant.

I think that shows that in Germany, the law regarding racial abuse, at least in principle, does not differentiate between where you 'were' from, just that you are here.

If I were in Iran and were to be racial abused by a non Iranian, would they also be taken to court?
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#17
16:37 July 13, 2009 by Steven192
Here we go again.

I am going to assume that all the posters saying that the Germans or the courts "allowed" this to happen are just struggling with their English instead of being completly off their trollies.

The rest of the rubbish has been addressed by others so I will put a question to Sparkling et al.

What do you want the Germans to do about it? Sack cloth and ashes or just wailing in the streets? A couple of "spontaneous" demonstrations with some flag burning and cries of "Death to the Russians"?

The killer has been arrested and will get a fair trial, not something he could be sure of if he had done this where Mr Iamadinnerjacket is in power.

The cop is under investigation to find out why he screwed up so badly.

As for searching everyone who enters a courtroom? Well up to now it hasn't been needed but who knows if this sort of thing will happen again when those from a different culture are exposed to justice?
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#18
16:42 July 13, 2009 by sparkling
But, fortunately for the sane people in the world, no one else perceives it that way. So we're just fine. He's just trying to make a bunch of noise an…
I'm afraid it's not that easy. First of all, Germany has the not-so-clean history, this is a very bad card dealt to the current generation of Germans. Second, the hate crimes have been rising. I have been feeling it for some time, but I also see reports showing it:

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=86173...ionid=351020604http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/discrimina...ges.aspx?id=111

If one digs, I'm sure there are more, I'm just pasting the first two.

I'm sure some idiot will now jump and say something like "but xxx Turk/Muslim killed a German too, ha??". Yes, I am sure hate crimes towards the Germans exist as well. Two (or thousand) wrongs don't make it right.

Many things could have been done, but instead the politicians (Merkel+Koch mainly) and the media chose to feed the xenophobia instead.

He has a case. And I am sorry he does.
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#19
16:45 July 13, 2009 by sparkling
Roland Koch, who got the vote and still is in power, who was btw supported by Merkel for his xenophobic campaign. There are still many many German peo…
I wrote my expectations before, and was slammed because of that.
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#20
16:49 July 13, 2009 by katekatekoala
He has a case. And I am sorry he does.
And I'm sorry, he doesn't.

Yeah, Germany has a history of xenophobia and racism to the extreme. But bringing up old to fling isn't going to make today's discussions any better. This generation did not perpetrate the Holocaust. I'm sure they'd want to kick your ass if you tried and make this comparison to their face. So don't. The fact is, these two incidents are being made such a big deal out of because they are so close together. This has probably happened before. It will probably happen again. Unfortunately, hate crimes are nothing new to the human race, and fortunately, neither are people crying for something to be done about it. But for a leader to cry and bang his fists on his chest and say "There must be something done!" and not really suggesting that anything be done, except for the West to grovel and admit what a big bad influence they are, is stupid.
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#21
16:50 July 13, 2009 by sparkling
anyways... I'm taking a break from this topic.

I guess the politicians will go into the damage control mode soon, some will counter-attack. It's a show to watch again. I'm just not into it any more.
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#22
16:50 July 13, 2009 by cb6dba
Depending on how far you back, no one has such a clean history.

This case had no German input what so ever until the Woman reported the guy to the police. Mr Dinner jacket is just trying to use the situation to calm everything down in Iran.

Like he actually gives a crap about some Egyptian woman when he will happily tear gas Iranians trying to carry out a peaceful protest.

I can just see him in his office now, 'Hmmm, yes, open fire on thr protesters - shame about that Egyptian woman mind...'

Yes, that is really how it happened....
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#23
16:51 July 13, 2009 by sparkling
And I'm sorry, he doesn't.

Yeah, Germany has a history of xenophobia and racism to the extreme. But bringing up old to fling isn't going t…
I really can't even be bothered to discuss with people who don't bother to read. The reports are not from 1930s.
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#24
16:52 July 13, 2009 by sparkling
Mr Dinner jacket is just trying to use the situation to calm everything down in Iran.

Like he actually gives a crap about some Egyptian wom…
exactly, it's an international game of politics.
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#25
16:52 July 13, 2009 by Chrisimo
@sparkling

So you don't remember the name of the Turkish guy who stabbed his pregnant German wife? His name is Cengiz K. Maybe you want to look up all the outrage this case has created. I couldn't find that much to be honest. Not nearly as much as the case of the two foreigners in Munich or even the case of Marwa. But according to you the politicians and the media would have been all over the case.
I'm sure some idiot will now jump and say something like "but xxx Turk/Muslim killed a German too, ha??". Yes, I am sure hate crimes towards…
You are sure? So i take it you don't care that much about hate crimes against Germans?
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#26
16:55 July 13, 2009 by Steven192
I'm afraid it's not that easy. First of all, Germany has the not-so-clean history, this is a very bad card dealt to the current generation of Germans.…
Did you read the figures in your links?

Between 2003 and 2006, official figures for right-wing violent crimes increased steadily from 759 in 2003 to 1,047 in 2006, only decreasing slightly in 2007.
If you are worried about 1,047 crimes in a population of 82Million then whatever you do you had better not go to the UK. You would be too scared to le…[/quote]I notice that your home country doesn't collect figures for that sort of crime in fact racial/religous/etc motives aren't even recognised.
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#27
16:57 July 13, 2009 by sparkling
I'm sure they'd want to kick your ass if you tried and make this comparison to their face. So don't.
ok guys, it's getting really scary here. I'm off, have a great evening!

Don't stalk me please!
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#28
16:58 July 13, 2009 by katekatekoala
I'm afraid it's not that easy. First of all, Germany has the not-so-clean history, this is a very bad card dealt to the current generation of Germans.…
I really can't even be bothered to discuss with people who don't bother to read. The reports are not from 1930s.
No, the articles you linked to are not. But that was only your second point. Your first was "First of all, Germany has the not-so-clean history, this is a very bad card dealt to the current generation of Germans." Very clearly referring to Germany's not so clean past in the 1930's. I can read, thank you.

But you know what? That article, "Germany awash with hate crimes", is bullshit. Most modern countries are awash with hate crimes. In America, hate crimes are perpetrated against blacks, mexicans, gays, etc... White in the Middle East have hate crimes perpetrated against them. Japanese perpetrate hate crimes on Koreans, Chinese on Taiwanese. The WORLD is awash in hate crimes. This is nothing new.
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#29
20:59 July 13, 2009 by HerrDinksbumps
... - a million times ......
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#30
22:01 July 13, 2009 by toko
[quote name='sparkling' post='1705316' date='Jul 13 2009, 4:06 pm']In Dresden she did get herself killed because she was a Muslim AND he was a crazy man, let's not forget that the husband was shot by the police.
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#31
22:11 July 13, 2009 by HerrDinksbumps
Wham bam thank you ma'am.. Well put toko. End of discussion.
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#32
22:39 July 13, 2009 by sparkling
Let me clear something up for you. What he did is considered a crime in Germany, it wasn't done by secret police like in Iran, but by a criminal. Show…
ideally you are right. There are criminals everywhere, the German police system is far superior and the justice system will take care of the problems. They were already on the right track by punishing the guy. There is the Roland Koch and Merkel campaign unfortunately. The wrong they have done could have been corrected, and this was in fact a good opportunity for them.
The bigotry that is really shameful is following: How many "headscarf martyrs" are actually shot by family members? Ever seen a demonstratio…
there are so many demonstrations, so many groups, so many volunteer organizations, so many statistics tracked in Turkey. If you are interested in discussing honour killings, please open another thread, I will be happy to contribute. Have I ever slightly even mentioned any defense for honour killings? Again, two wrongs don't make one right.
Do you consider the justice system in Germany to be "bad enough" to side with Iran? Go for it, bigotry pure.
seriously, you guys don't even read what I write any more. I have a feeling HDB is writing one post under one name then writing another one to celebra…[/quote]Agreed 100%! Local politicians using single crimes (!!!) for propaganda reasons are also unacceptable. I live in Hessen. I am Turkish. What kind of an experience do you think I went through during Koch campaigns? Every poster at every corner represented hate towards the Turks.
OH, Nazi card. You're very wrong here. The card is not very bad. It's neutral.

Do you think because of any history people should bow to hy…
I'm sorry but it's a bad card, and I am sorry about it. I didn't deal the cards, don't shoot the messenger. Some of us have been dealt better cards, some of us worse. Do you think I chose to be associated with all the "fantastic" prejudices attached to being a Turkish woman? I am sick and tired of answering all kinds of ignorant and idiot questions.
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22:48 July 13, 2009 by katekatekoala
ideally you are right. There are criminals everywhere, the German police system is far superior and the justice system will take care of the problems.…
I'm sorry, WHAT? So you think Germans are so racist they weren't even going to punish the guy? Of course they're going to punish him, whether he kills a Muslim headscarf wearer or a white person or anyone for that matter.
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#34
22:51 July 13, 2009 by sparkling
@sparkling

So you don't remember the name of the Turkish guy who stabbed his pregnant German wife? His name is Cengiz K. Maybe you want to …
Chrisimo, we discussed this in the other thread. I was the first one to write that the crime by the Turkish and Greek youths in Munich against the old German guy was a hate crime. I didn't restrict the hate crimes as only the crimes done by the Germans, but also "to" the Germans. However, what you are describing above is more of a domestic crime, and a horrible one indeed. If she hated the Turks, she wouldn't marry him in the first place. If he hated Germans, he wouldn't marry her in the first place. Maybe we should go back and define what a "hate crime" is.
No, the articles you linked to are not. But that was only your second point. Your first was "First of all, Germany has the not-so-clean history, …
right, that's what I am referring to. I didn't deal this card, and I am sorry about it.
But you know what? That article, "Germany awash with hate crimes", is bullshit. Most modern countries are awash with hate crimes. In America…
That is also correct. But million wrongs also don't make one right. Germany is not taking the Middle East as the role model. It's the other way around. Therefore, Germany can only further improve by analyzing the rights and wrongs and learning from mistakes. There is no existing model that one can take and implement here. It has to be invented. This crime case is an opportunity for Germany to look into "self" and understand what's wrong and correct it. If you cover it up with hush hush, it's not helping anybody, except Ahmedinejad.
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#35
22:54 July 13, 2009 by wood artist
katekate...look at the good side.

He can't very well use "German history" as an argument, because he's already said the Holocaust never happened. On the local level, this is a very unfortunate situation, and legitimately questions courthouse security. On the international level, this is just an opportunity for him to shift attention elsewhere. A classic case of the tail wagging the dog.
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#36
22:55 July 13, 2009 by sparkling
I'm sorry, WHAT? So you think Germans are so racist they weren't even going to punish the guy? Of course they're going to punish him, whether he kills…
Kate, I have a feeling you just started reading about this case and the discussions surrounding it.

Axel was in the court because he was punished before for his first hate crime (the punishment I am referring to is this one), a minor one compared to the killing. Now the killing is his second crime. I really suggest you read the news from last week.

May I ask a few personal questions:

How old are you? What is your education level? Why are you suddenly so concerned about this case? I don't remember seeing you in the other thread.
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#37
22:57 July 13, 2009 by katekatekoala
Germany is not taking the Middle East as the role model. It's the other way around. Therefore, Germany can only further improve by analyzing the right…
And when did this happen? Don't think I got the memo. How is it suddenly Germany's responsibility to lead the way in the human rights argument?

Well, I suppose I should be rejoicing! Normally people cry to America for doing that sort of stuff. Phew! The burden's been passed.
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#38
23:00 July 13, 2009 by katekatekoala
May I ask a few personal questions:

How old are you? What is your education level? Why are you suddenly so concerned about this case? I do…
No. you may not. They are irrelevant. And so is the fact of if I was reading the other thread or not. I was attracted to this thread because I saw completely ridiculous allegations being thrown around by you and felt I had to put my two cents in and try and set you straight. But... alas, you continue to argue your much belabored points, which have been proved wrong by others (better than I did I think), not just me.
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#39
23:08 July 13, 2009 by sparkling
Alright, I was just curious whether I was wasting my time writing and trying to give the past facts to a screaming adolescent high-school drop out who seems to feel entitled to just write but not read. I think I am right. Obviously the case doesn't interest you. Somehow you are just happy that you wrote something here, anything. You have to work on straigthening up yourself first You don't even have a clue what others are writing about. I wish you did.
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23:30 July 13, 2009 by RainyDays
BTW, why does Ahmadinajad always wear those Erich Honecker style jackets?
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#41
23:31 July 13, 2009 by katekatekoala
They don't call 'im President Igottadinnerjacket for no reason
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#42
23:37 July 13, 2009 by sparkling
BTW, why does Ahmadinajad always wear those Erich Honecker style jackets?
I see these jackets in rural Turkey on guys of his generation, every day, even when wearing a jacket is not necessary. Maybe it was fashionable when they were young and they just can't stop wearing them.
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#43
23:55 July 13, 2009 by Binaural
The German system has something to answer for here in my opinion - allowing an armed man into a courtroom in a case he is involved in smacks of shitful security measures and heads should roll over this. That this poor woman was stabbed 18 times before her attacker was restrained, while injuring her husband close to death in the process, is another awful failure of court security. If no lessons are learned here then the death of this woman is in vain. But those lessons are related to court security, not racial animosity. This attack could just have easily come in a rape or divorce case, and we shold be careful to remember that this scumbag was in court facing charges of racial villification. The system was actively protecting the common rights of Muslims when this occurred - does not sound like a conspiracy against them to me.

And of all the people in the wide world with moral authority to criticise Germany for this, the very last should be Ahmadinejad. Iran executes homosexuals and adulterers amongst its vast range of oppressive and unjust policies. Since we're talking state responsibility for individual actions, I don't seem to recall Ahmadinejad apologising for the girl who was shot the other day by the Basij while protesting the stolen election (she was also denied a formal funeral). Another lame effort to put the spotlight somewhere else from his stolen election, and nothing much more.
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02:29 July 14, 2009 by Oblomov
In all my posts, I tried to articulate (which is somehow not getting to you) that it is a very bad situation that even Ahmedinejad finds himself in a …
No, he is in absolutely no position to criticize Germany. Perhaps you do need a reminder that this is a man who is clinging to power by election fraud and who had protesters killed in the streets of Tehran just a very few days ago? He is also the head of a country that killed perceived enemies of the Iranian regime right here in Germany. These are crimes the Iranian state and its officials have to answer for, very much unlike the crime of a single criminal as it happened in Dresden.

What makes you believe that any government in the Middle East in a position to demand some apology of German politicians for the crime of a single criminal? Were any official apologies demanded ever from countries like Egypt, Yemen or for that matter Turkey when Germans were killed there?
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#45
08:21 July 14, 2009 by Chrisimo
Chrisimo, we discussed this in the other thread. I was the first one to write that the crime by the Turkish and Greek youths in Munich against the old…
So a domestic crime of a foreigner against a German doesn't count? You give the impression that politicians in media in Germany would be all over a case where a foreigner kills a German (like the case in munich). I'm saying that you are wrong. Again: This was a Turkish man who stabbed his pregnant German wife and there was no outrage from the media of the politicians. At least I don't remember that much.

Michael4096 asked the question of whether the case of Marwa would have been handled differently if the victim was German and the attacker a (real) foreigner. You replied with 'munich' which implies that the case would have been handled differently. So I give you another example of a foreigner killing a German where this wasn't the case.
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#46
08:45 July 14, 2009 by Steven192
You are wasting your time Sparky never answers direct questions. S/he just burbles on with the same old rasicst bigotry and outright rubbish each time.

I have at present exactly zero posters on my ignore list as I think that even the simplist of minds can sometimes make a contribution but in this case I may have to re-evaluate that.
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#47
09:21 July 14, 2009 by cb6dba
@peasandcarrots - I don't ignore any kind of corruption anywhere - it goes on everywhere.

Also, lets not complicate the topic with the WMD stuff as that has been talked to death elsewhere on the forums. This topic is about a guy using the death of a woman to try to distract people from what is going on in his own country.

This is a guy who will happily sit by and watch poeple be executed etc for what we see as not only not a crime but at times they execute the victim...
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#48
11:12 July 14, 2009 by barbett
Has Ahmadinejad also demanded an apology from the Sudanese government for killing many Muslims (of African etnicity) in Darfur?
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#49
17:39 July 14, 2009 by bandida
What makes you believe that any government in the Middle East in a position to demand some apology of German politicians for the crime of a single cri…
This wasn't an "ordinary" killing, such as in the course of a robbery or something like that. It happened in a court room, a place where a victims of crime should give their statements without having to fear for their lives. The victim apparently thought so - she did not bring a weapon to defend herself against possible attacks. Court security was breached in a major way.

  • No checks of those entering the court - the accused could enter the court with a weapon (knife)

  • Inadequate (or no) security in the court room - he was able to stab the victim multiple time

  • Incompetent response - when a cop finally arrived on the scene he shot the wrong guy



Responsibility lies with whoever is in charge of court security (police? or a different agency?). Ultimate responsibility lies with whatever politician is in charge of said agency. An apology from him or her is definitely in order.

The same applies to foreign politicians if German are citizens killed in their countries due to screw-ups of the government or any of its agencies. Are you saying there were comparable cases where this didn't happen (I have no clue what you are referring to)? Well, two wrongs still don't make a right...
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17:48 July 14, 2009 by Chrisimo
Responsibility lies with whoever is in charge of court security (police? or a different agency?). Ultimate responsibility lies with whatever politicia…
An apology to who?
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#51
19:10 July 15, 2009 by Legal E
Seems to be a disparity of policing. In Munich there was 10 peaceful demonstrators and 10 fully loaded police vans.... The facts should be fleshed out. Why, what and how that the person managed to stab someone 18 times in a court of law. People should be held accountable. Dispense with the religion issues and get to raw facts so that it does not happen again. Puncto!
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#52
07:30 July 16, 2009 by Xxsarahxx
What happened to this woman is more than a tragedy.

I think that the president of Iran is naughty for trying to turn it political. What is the point of attacking Germany as a country. If the government has been slack then professionally call for something to be done. Don't stand there and try to enrage your nation so you can get a little heat off your own problems.

This is a dirty hate crime by an evil man who should pay dearly for what he has done. My baby is almost 3 and as a mother I still couldn't even imagine the tragedy and horror that this person has unleashed on this beautiful family! Lets focus on that. Focus on someone setting up a trust fund for this little child.

Focus on forcing the government to give the man the harshest punishment that germany has.....
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Single-parent families on the rise in Germany

The number of single-parent families in Germany has risen over the past decade, with nearly one in five mothers and fathers now raising their children on their own, a national “microcensus” revealed Thursday. READ (3 COMMENTS) »

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Weatherman Kachelmann released from jail

Four months after he was arrested for allegedly raping his girlfriend, weatherman Jörg Kachelmann was released from custody on Thursday. READ (3 COMMENTS) »

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Home offices should be tax-deductible, court rules

Teachers, professors and other people who keep a second office at home are in for a windfall after a court ruled Thursday that tax deductions on home offices should be expanded. READ (2 COMMENTS) »

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